Micro 932: A Normal Blitz - Game Over

[Datisi]

shiki, the problem with that is that an investigator could claim No Result.

...however, Madoka claiming No Result would literally be a clear on Monkey.

[GeorgeBailey]

But why you over Shiki? You're both VT. People are already acting like you'll flip town. It's concerning.

[Datisi]

because shiki didn't write an essay yesterday defending flipped scum. and bugs did push shiki. also it doesn't really matter if we switch holden/shiki around as long as we all agree on Luca town

[GeorgeBailey]

Well, glad it's settled then.

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 1.12

bugspray (5) -

Datisi, Luca Blight, shiki, GeorgeBailey, humaneatingmonkey

Hiraki (2) -

bugspray, Madoka

humaneatingmonkey (2) -

HoldenGolden, Hiraki

Not Voting (0) -

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

And looking back at this, yeah.

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: HoldenGolden

[Madoka]

Should we wait for Luca?

[Datisi]

yes. we should. we don't have a finalized plan. and i'm still thinking about yoloing a monkey lynch through. i'll see.

[HoldenGolden]

Aka I think shiki is town therefore if one of us is supposely to die, I choose me.

It's the most pro town move I can do aside from my test on monkey

Pedit may I at least see if Monkey chooses my pinkie?

[HoldenGolden]

No yolo lynch. Game is mechanically solved to the point where whoever is really scum here is screwed

[Madoka]

yes. we should. we don't have a finalized plan. and i'm still thinking about yoloing a monkey lynch through. i'll see.

Same I was just about to suggest it.

[HoldenGolden]

Also we did not spend 5+ discussing lynching me to yolo lynch goddammit.

If you wanted to do that, I gave you the chance with Madoka and you said nooooo. No need to rush yolo vote

I was a visionary

[Madoka]

I want to kill the monkey investigate holden kill shiki

[Datisi]

Madoka, the issue with that is, if Monkey were to flip what he claims, that is a Novice PT Cop, then scum DEFINITELY has an additional PR. and we have no clue what that is.

it would be a complete mess of a setup, and the more the day goes the less i believe in that, but theoretically it's still possible.

[Madoka]

ah I see

[HoldenGolden]

Final Death read: Monkey was scum all this time and used the novice to not seem suspect when claiming (as saying he checked hiraki would always raise red flags regardless of his read on him)

[shiki]

i am also okay with the monkey lynch. can't get over monkey saying that if madoka were fake claiming they would try to lynch all of the vanilla towns twenty posts after suggesting we lynch all of the vanilla towns. and i stand by my day one case on monkey for scumreading hikari and not pushing him. it was exactly what i would expect scum to do. i was looking out for it. and the night kill makes sense if it's monkey, both in that hikari was pushing him and that his partner died day one so possibly just killing whoever upset him the most.

I want to kill the monkey investigate holden kill shiki

hmm. this plan clears all of the people not in my town except you.

[Datisi]

ok lemme see. either monkey or madoka claiming a No Result on anyone is confirmation that the other investigative role is town.

yeah, the more i think about it the more i just don't see scum winning this unless there's some sorta mighty buffed scum PR but i don't think there is ughhhhhh

or unless luca is a scum mastermind but he is town.

ye however you slice it

george protects madoka, madoka and monkey check shiki

day 3 ends with either 2 unconfirmed people or 3 unconfirmed people, but one of those 3 is luca so it's basically 2.

if we collectively agree on me/madoka/luca town then this game is over, one way or the other.

[shiki]

madoka

i still do not see why it is madoka not george we are agreeing on here. how is george possibly not town? you think he thought 'madoka is bluffing, i will claim bodyguard protecting luca'? i really don't understand. you are ruling out madoka as scum because you think the setup would be scumsided. i think it being a scumsided setup is more likely than george having that line of thought as scum in that situation.

[shiki]

also, george made this claim on the spot under pressure. madoka disappeared and came back with a claim.

[Madoka]

I don't get what you think scumMadoka's plan was.

[Datisi]

when i'm talking about "confirmed town" i'm talking by mechanics. if i were including by play both luca and george would be there.

if madoka is fakeclaiming, the setup is, in its least scumsided variant, a NovicePTcop/bodyguard/neighbor/4vt vs neighbor/goon. that's just... i don't see it.

besides, that would assume that Madoka blindly chose george to do the gambit on. What if george was a VT? scum!Madoka would've had to retract her claim anyway. then what? just brought insanely more attention to herself. i just don't see it.

[shiki]

okay sorry holden>monkey or monkey>holden and if it's you, me and madoka in final three i'll try to convince you then. pretty sure this just ends the game.

[shiki]

nevermind since i'm being checked but you get my point.

[shiki]

so either datisi or george die and i'm confirmed, then whichever of you two is still alive or me die. so if i was in final three, i'd have to convince luca.