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This is why NSG needed to pocket you. I even saw it happening as it happened. I pointed out your unvote of Dann after NSG came in multiple times.In post 3668, Alchemist21 wrote:
I was pushing for Dannflor’s lynch until NSG replaced him.In post 3658, Auro wrote:It's decently possible {Nero, Alch, NSG} are exactly the scumteam and feel free to point out evidence against it. All three have individual scum equity. No one participated in a serious wagon on the other two
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SS has fell of a cliff. There's probably exactly 1 scum in {RCE, Comical, Oka, Luna, Penguin}, depending on if SS claims vt. I don't think there can ever be two in the PR claims, seems like it'd be too weak. PP needs to full claim too. I think everyone else has claimed vt. I would like to caveat and say I think Luna's claim was very townie how she did it, and I'd lean its more likely to be a gunsmith claim over a JK (town usually has a protective).
But, knowing there's only 1 in 5 is good! The other living players are {NSG, SS, Alch, Auro, Dany}, which should have 2 scum."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Something_Smart
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That sounds like a bandwagon fallacy.
I prefer to think of it as I'm the only thing standing in between scum and complete setup knowledge.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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my not responding to you i would call a learned behavior—it seems entirely pointless. i don't expect to change your mind, and i don't really expect that having the conversation will do anything to convince others.In post 3673, Comical wrote:But yeah, NSG is clearly scum based on the tether between her and I. If she were town’d she’d have faught back at me harder.
@Alchemist - you brought up she doesn’t have a presence as scum?She has literally zero presence against me in Comical vs NSG.
i asked you before why you scumread me and i don't think i got an answer. i don't expect to get a straight answer by asking you again, really. you seem quite fond of just stating that i'm "manipulating the gamestate" and other such accusations without real explanations – that seems to basically be how you push people, by flooding the thread with various accusations and direct statements of guilt. i imagine that it's quite effective, as it takes advantage of a lot of heuristics and cognitive biases that if i cared more going into i could probably write an essay about.
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Hey, guys.
NSG stated “i don’t expect you to change your mind”
I’m pretty sure that’s the name of my playstyle. My willingness to change my mind, and truth be told, I am heavily confident in ScumNSG. Obviously I’m not 100% sure, but she’s playing the game in a way bt o get a couple mislynches before eventually going down.- OkaPoka
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It always made sense to her.In post 3693, OkaPoka wrote:nsg does boon being locktown make sense and what does that change for oyou
She chose the “whatever, you don’t have enough votes to lynch me” line and she was the epitome of “Scum who knows they’re scum read, but town can’t do anything about it”
She just underestimated me, though, which makes sense. NSG and I haven’t actually played with each other that much, but we’re obviously aware based on site not being that big, but even the games we did play together, we didn’t really interact that much. This has been the most we’ve ever interacted.- Eddie Cane
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If Boon is mafia, mafia have to have some kind of investigative to have known RCE had a gun.
So, the proposed setup is even night gunsmith + voyeur + JK + FV
I don't play actively enough to know if that sounds balanced, but feels very light in terms of town power even if scum have no other roles. If anybody wants to argue otherwise, I would be happy to look at a similarly balanced recent setup if you could link it.
Otherwise, I am taking Boon as town, and Luna as town for how she handled Oka.
The new difference check is most likely between Oka and Nero, heavily leaning Nero. I guess theycouldboth be town, but seems unlikely. Mechanically, still a bad lynch today I reckon. Better to lynch somebody that could be a partner and is independently scummy."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- northsidegal
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i don't think we have full enough role information for me to say that—if, say, penguinpower is actually a loyal fruit vendor or a weak fruit vendor. granted, i consider that someone unlikely considering that i think that he townreads me and wouldn't use that sort of action on me, but still.In post 3693, OkaPoka wrote:nsg does boon being locktown make sense and what does that change for oyou
i guess i'll actually try to get more to what you're asking, though. if i were to take it as a given that comical were locktown, what would that make the game look like? i think that reads-wise this shifts little, as even knowing that he is town i am remiss to take that as indication that his reads are any more likely to be correct—with good reason for this game at least, as i'm certain you can agree (i bring this up because i wouldnotsay the same thing if i did this same thought experiment for, say, eddie cane). that leaves us with the mechanical. the immediate answer would be that it points towards RCE being scum, but i'm not sure that's actually true. assuming penguin is only a fruit vendor, gunsmith + "somewhat limited" JK + voyeur is actually a really low amount of town power. like, so low i'm not sure it's ever passed.- Comical
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She’s looking for a definitive point to why she is scum, and that’s the epitome of scum who thinks they’re caught for the wrong reasons.
My reads on people are based on the conjunction of gamestate versus personal agenda, and I believe I’ve been very vocal and given multiple reasons why I believe NSG to be scum. It’s not as simple as just bullet pointing. I’m not there yet. She’s played a good enough game to not allow me to have definitive bullet point reasons, but it doesn’t mean there aren’t other outliers.
Mixed in with my town reads, which I have been actively pursuing strong town reads, almost more than I have been pushing NSG. I’ve also been engaging most players and any player who wants to converse with me, regardless of their viewpoints on this game currently, a la Nero. - Comical
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