mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[northsidegal]

We’ve fully mass claimed, NSG.

have we? oka has yet to clarify what his restriction is, and penguinpower has yet to clarify anything about his role besides "fruit vendor", which we have no confirmation of given that he targeted firebringer.

it's not unreasonable to say that we still don't have perfect information.

[Eddie Cane]

I'll word my reply this way. Penguin should probably full claim. However,

0-1 but probably 1 scum in {Luna > Comical > Oka > PP/Nero)
2-3 scum in {SS, Auro, Dany, Alch, NSG, Eddie}

That feels pretty good. Alch / NSG have obvious partner associatives. I'll have to check who Dany could still be with. SS / Auro have partner associatives, but at least the latter I think has handled today in a townie way.

[northsidegal]

oka, do you recall alternating 9p? i didn't, but i think reviewing that game might prove useful.

i am somewhat mystified that you still believe that i could be scum.

[Comical]

All Claims

Something_Smart - VT
Firebringer - VT
PenguinPower - Fruit Vendor
Eddie Cane - VT
OkaPoka - Jailkeeper
Pine - VT
Luna Fox - Voyeur
Nero Cain - Even Night Gunsmith
Northsidegal - VT
Auro - VT
Idanyboy - VT
Comical - 6 shot Gunsmith

[Comical]

Also, switch Nero and I immediately.

[OkaPoka]

i have between 2 and 5 shots on my jailkeeper ability

[Eddie Cane]

Dany might be a good kill by virtue of lets scum resolve some PR stuff, lets GS get some fake/real checks assuming Oka doesn't stop them, lets NSG have 48 hours to prepare some content that is actually good if she's town, and he is actively not playing the game so it isn't even the worst if he flips town. I haven't played with the dude so if someone has some meta making him town this would be a good time to drop it.

i have between 2 and 5 shots on my jailkeeper ability

This implies Boon is town via setup symmetry, I think.

[Comical]

Also, this is not low power. If Nero is town, that’s insanely OP bar Mafia Doctor, which he’s shown to think there would never be in this game.

Double gunsmith has to be a thing with this, I feel.

There are no other false guilties, elsewise we’d just be stupid cops, which is OP af.

[northsidegal]

She’s looking for a definitive point to why she is scum, and that’s the epitome of scum who thinks they’re caught for the wrong reasons.

i am interested to hear

why

you believe that i could be scum, for a multitude of reasons. being interested to hear why people believe others think they are scum is—quite undeniably—a common trait across all games and from both town and scum. you state here that it comes from scum and do the same thing that you are always doing – putting forward a possibility without any statement as to

why

you believe that possibility is more likely than the alternatives.

My reads on people are based on the conjunction of gamestate versus personal agenda, and

I believe I’ve been very vocal and given multiple reasons why I believe NSG to be scum

. It’s not as simple as just bullet pointing. I’m not there yet. She’s played a good enough game to not allow me to have definitive bullet point reasons, but it doesn’t mean there aren’t other outliers.

i don't believe so. you've given things that may appear to be reasons, or explanations ("she's manipulating the gamestate, she's setting up wagons, etc."), but these things are one step down from simply saying "she's scum". they're not statements of

explaining probability

, of why the world that you put forward as true is more likely than the alternative explanation.

[OkaPoka]

i just want to lynch idany and push this problem to tomorrow tbh

[Comical]

Dany might be a good kill by virtue of lets scum resolve some PR stuff, lets GS get some fake/real checks assuming Oka doesn't stop them, lets NSG have 48 hours to prepare some content that is actually good if she's town, and he is actively not playing the game so it isn't even the worst if he flips town. I haven't played with the dude so if someone has some meta making him town this would be a good time to drop it.

i have between 2 and 5 shots on my jailkeeper ability

This implies Boon is town via setup symmetry, I think.

We’re not killing a low activity slot today. That’s dumb.

Get a high priority death out of the way and confirmed. Idany is a terrible wagon because he’s barely posted. We end up tomorrow essentially the same thing.

NSG needs to go. She’s a high priority, likely to be scum, AND she’s VT claim.

[Comical]

i just want to lynch idany and push this problem to tomorrow tbh

I think this is literally the worst thing possible.

Stop being lazy and scared because people don’t want to push NSG because they like her. It is absolutely not a personal thing.

[Comical]

I don’t do probability like that.

I’m all sociology vs psychology vs the competitive game spirit.

[OkaPoka]

okay who has the most scum equity with nsg here boon

[Comical]

Honestly, it’s the momentum of your pushes specifically, the drawback on your wagon, the complete utter reverse of my reads, and the political positioning.

Lynch NSG.

Idany can literally be lynched any day.

NSG can fight and change it. Idany cannot.

I will not be gunsmithing NSG because I believe she is the Mafia Doctor.

I will be Gunsmithing Idany tonight.

[northsidegal]

I don’t do probability like that.

I’m all sociology vs psychology vs the competitive game spirit.

-shrug-

then i have basically nothing to say to you. i recognize that your techniques are probably fairly convincing to most, but they are essentially meaningless to me.

[Eddie Cane]

You probably shouldn't claim your target.

[PenguinPower]

won't lynch nsg. not only is she nsg, she repped dann.

no thanks.

++points she agrees with me wrt technique

[OkaPoka]

You probably shouldn't claim your target.

its fine because i may or may not be jailing boon based on the virtue of a coin flip

[Comical]

okay who has the most scum equity with nsg here boon

I’m pretty sure this has literally been a high topic of conversation...

There’s like half the game. If we aren’t talking setup spec, and not based off of my personal reads:

Something, OkaPoka, Nero, Alchemist, Penguin, Auro

Contain the other 2 scum.

Now I can town case every single of them pretty well, but obviously I’m not right on all of them.

Okapoka would have to be having to strong gambit right now as scum.

Frankly, NSG saying town is underpowered is just plain wrong. This town is actually stacked right now bar Mafia having like 3 Mafia Doctors.

[Eddie Cane]

I don’t do probability like that.

I’m all sociology vs psychology vs the competitive game spirit.

-shrug-

then i have basically nothing to say to you. i recognize that your techniques are probably fairly convincing to most, but they are essentially meaningless to me.

I love Boon but most of his posts are white noise to me

But you haven't provided much in terms of game propelling content since subbing in. It would help me sort your alignment if you discussed why each person is in your PoE pool, strength, etc.

[northsidegal]

honestly, eddie? i don't believe that you need that to sort me.

[OkaPoka]

nsg i need it pls

[Comical]

I don’t do probability like that.

I’m all sociology vs psychology vs the competitive game spirit.

-shrug-

then i have basically nothing to say to you. i recognize that your techniques are probably fairly convincing to most, but they are essentially meaningless to me.

I love Boon but most of his posts are white noise to me

But you haven't provided much in terms of game propelling content since subbing in. It would help me sort your alignment if you discussed why each person is in your PoE pool, strength, etc.

AND YET POST GAME AND LATE GAME PEOPLE ALWAYS GO

“Wow, is it just me or does Boon suddenly starting to make a lot of sense”

Okapoka, you literally said that last game.

I have a crazy mind, I get it, but try and figure out what I’ve been saying.

I just have a very specific way of analyzing, and I need the right words.

Something_Smart, RCEnigma, Jingle, Krazy are probably some of the best players at being able to do this, and you can tell when I townblock with one of them, it’s really just a powerhouse combo.

I just have to make sure they can, so they can give me the momentum I need.

The reverse of what happened in Titus vs Alisae, I did this for Krazy on Maki.

[OkaPoka]

boon i said that because your reads went from diametrically opposing me to matching me lmfao