On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Blake X Yang]

I will probably go into why I scumread Mikoto and Kuroko later today. It mostly depends on whether my motivation for mafia maintains itself throughout the day.

I will note that I am untested with Farkran's scumgame and I have an inconsistent record at reading Bitmap, but I still believe that from what I know of how they play, both their approaches look more likely to come from a scum PM than a town PM.

-Blake

[Imperium]

I spent an hour making



and as a bonus this:



instead of making lunch only to lose anyway

Now I'm salty AND hungry and Hectic will pay for this

-Prism

posting anything from avatar makes me love you more than I did before

[Imperium]

I will probably go into why I scumread Mikoto and Kuroko later today. It mostly depends on whether my motivation for mafia maintains itself throughout the day.

I will note that I am untested with Farkran's scumgame and I have an inconsistent record at reading Bitmap, but I still believe that from what I know of how they play, both their approaches look more likely to come from a scum PM than a town PM.

-Blake

as I've alluded to earlier today I think that farkran tries to carry himself through scumgames through sheer willpower - he's willing to press ridiculous angles or drop bullshit reasoning on a whim despite his town game actually being pretty reasonable/badass

[Imperium]

I get the same vibes from his game this game with the caveat that tammy told me that it gets better before she passed out and also i'm incredibly drunk so maybe i'm not looking at the game as closely as I should be but I have ~great expectations~ surrounding that slot and so far they haven't delivered

[Imperium]

and yes i'm still stuck on the "I asked you if you wanted a vig shot and that was equivalent to asking you to reads and you refusing to give your reads is a scumtell" exchange but that continues to be bullshit

[Blake X Yang]

I will probably go into why I scumread Mikoto and Kuroko later today. It mostly depends on whether my motivation for mafia maintains itself throughout the day.

I will note that I am untested with Farkran's scumgame and I have an inconsistent record at reading Bitmap, but I still believe that from what I know of how they play, both their approaches look more likely to come from a scum PM than a town PM.

-Blake

as I've alluded to earlier today I think that farkran tries to carry himself through scumgames through sheer willpower - he's willing to press ridiculous angles or drop bullshit reasoning on a whim despite his town game actually being pretty reasonable/badass

I get the same vibes from his game this game with the caveat that tammy told me that it gets better before she passed out and also i'm incredibly drunk so maybe i'm not looking at the game as closely as I should be but I have ~great expectations~ surrounding that slot and so far they haven't delivered

It's entirely possible.

I mainly bring up the untested bit with Farkran because I've played with him twice so far, although both times he was scumreading me early and consistently I was also able to correctly determine him as town early on both times.

This game, it's possible I'm allowing his wait and see approach regarding my slot to color my opinion of him more than it should, but I've gotten no impression from his posts that his mindset is how he says he approaches every game.

Bitmap, as well, feels very similar to how he did in Titus vs Alisae. I mistakenly attributed it to him being a mason in that game, but there is no stick excuse here.

-Blake

[Despair Night]

and yes i'm still stuck on the "I asked you if you wanted a vig shot and that was equivalent to asking you to reads and you refusing to give your reads is a scumtell" exchange but that continues to be bullshit

I am thinking he made a leap of faith but I'm still rolling the exchange around my head to decide if it was villagery. He connected me wanting a vig shot to me NEEDING to have a scum readslist for asserting such demon art of a post.

If I remember correctly it ended in a vote because I was refusing to give him reads which makes me feel better but it still was a dumb question.

~som

[Imperium]

For Farkran: I'm not seeing eye to eye with you on the Cappy read. Can you elaborate?

-Prism

Assuming the post restriction is real, i think hectic is efforting to convey a lot of content to the thread, i wouldn't expect to see that if he was scum. He also looks very similar to how he played the cult game hosted by kerset. These are strong town points from his slot, it's the read i'm most confident on atm. I could see a null read on hectic from you, but a scumread seems really out of place compared to our undertale experience, unless you think he is lying about his post restriction. We could explore that world in d2, given that he specifically said "for this day phase".

-Farkran

THE POST RESTRICTION IS NOT REAL

if you're "exploring it day 2" you're setting hectic up for a mislynch because you're fucking scumn

[Imperium]

and yes i'm still stuck on the "I asked you if you wanted a vig shot and that was equivalent to asking you to reads and you refusing to give your reads is a scumtell" exchange but that continues to be bullshit

I am thinking he made a leap of faith but I'm still rolling the exchange around my head to decide if it was villagery. He connected me wanting a vig shot to me NEEDING to have a scum readslist for asserting such demon art of a post.

If I remember correctly it ended in a vote because I was refusing to give him reads which makes me feel better but it still was a dumb question.

~som

the only thing that feels OK from that exchange is him backing off immediately

[Imperium]

it's wacky but I promise you that I spent at least 6 hours meta'ing him the last game we played together

and farkran has a very strong town game where I feel he would consider something like this but as scum he might try to slip this crap past a few noses

[Despair Night]

He feels tonally off as well. Like...way off.

i won't bother signing anymore, it's prob just me for a bit

[Imperium]

I want to vote spiffeh but tammy is making me doubt myself

[Imperium]

she's all "yes, you can vote him. yes, that's completely okay if YOU vote him."

[Imperium]

she's all "yes, you can vote him. yes, that's completely okay if YOU vote him."

[Despair Night]

Also if Imperium doesn't obvtown by Day 2 they are scum and should be turbolynched

~Spiffy

I always have the feeling these posts are >rand to come from scum. Don't ask why.

[Imperium]

but I feel like smol might is a townread we'd share if spiff town but spiff scum obv doesn't want to discount someone for such a dumbshit reasn

[Despair Night]

VOTE: Spiffybringer

Latias town read is a really easy one to fabricate as well as weasel out of. I don't think a horrible ISO is disregarded just because someone is talking about inning an event.

[Imperium]

VOTE: Spiffybringer

I agree! I felt great about this vote until Tammy gave her input!

[Imperium]

never felt worse after someone told me that they trusted my scumreads

[Imperium]

my intent was to catch up and do good things but that sure as fuck isn't happening

[Imperium]

I've spent a lot of time reflecting on what went wrong in Undertale. I have no intention of losing again.

seems like if you correctly identified me as town everything would be OK

[Despair Night]

never felt worse after someone told me that they trusted my scumreads

I haven't said that if it comforts you.

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

10+ pages to catchup. I skimmed them from mobile so far, now i'll reread and answer to what i feel relevant. Gonna take a while

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

@Silver Bullet do you also scumread insomnia or is that just Hectic?

Or more generally speaking can you tell me how do you individually feel about insomnia?

-Farkran

I think scum!insomnia tries to use his ability to make good in real time interactions in order to get townreads. I don't feel like he's doing that right now!

- Silver Bullet

So, if you wanted to change your vote, who would you aim at?

-Farkran

First and foremost,

@Silver Bullet

you didn't answer this, and i'm still interested in learning your answer.

I mean, Hectic is posting through pictures, regardless of whether the post restriction is real or not, and he's still producing more solve attempts than you. I'll reiterate that this is one major reason for townreading the cappy slot - i could see self-imposing a false restriction to avoid producing reads and content as scum, but that's definitely not what hectic is doing here. People pushing cappy have to tell me why.

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

I'd believe that Tammy and Hectic aren't scum together lol

-JC

Thank you for knowing it was me!

439 not really AI from Imperium

If this is Ircher, I'm raising a big huge eyebrow in your direction.

I kinda see something kinda older style from Ircher that's a move I did. Not sure. I'll leave a note for Gobble.

~Titus

The reason why I mentioned Ircher there is because of his reaction to my opening post. I don't think I've played with Ircher? Or not enough to recognize the name I don't think. Anyway if this is Ircher, he's trying to claim some kind of understanding about how I play, which would mean that there's no way he doesn't like my opening posts. People who don't know me usually hate my opening posts whereas people who do know me, probably still hate my opening posts, but know that's just me and ignore it. So if it's ircher then the two reactions make no sense and that's a problem.

I'm not looking at this from a meta perspective but from a scum!Titus has done it perspective but if I say what it is, I ruin what I am looking for. It also only applies if you're town.

~Titus

Titus, vastly different from the little i know about scum!titus, similar to town!titus in the open TM where i was discussing with NaCl. I do not have a reputation of reading gobble well, but i am currently fairly confident on this slot being town. To elaborate, the scum!titus i know is by far more aggressive and less interested in communicating with other slots, more like she wants to destroy them with arguments that could be good or bad depending on the situation, but the point is that there is no interest in communication as a mean to re-evaluate, whereas in this game titus does communicate.

-Farkran