On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Cappy]

Dude I'm so glad we didn't end it. I got to eat when I was really hungry, we sent Datisi to sleep and we got this masterpiece:

I'd like to click on all of those squares thank you

[Disaster Artists]

:3

Thank you for proposing it in the first place

A much better decision than playing on for another 2 hours imo

-JC

[Cappy]

I mean, to be honest, I proposed it because it seems like you're eager to get the nasty dollars and I wanted to see how you reacted, all that time and effort for just a second place? I expected you would try to disuade me from the idea of conceding. But you went for the meme and I respect that.

Now, seeing that DeathRowKitty also participated and not participating on the actual mafia game sends me right back at my suspicions.

Then again, the memes...

I won't bother pushing you this early, there's no need (mainly because it's the slightlest of concerns and we're having fun).

- Silver Bullet

[Disaster Artists]

DRK has actually been talking to me very regularly in hydra PT, she likes backseating in main thread I think. Also I don't like foregrounding all of our dissonance even though she has disagreed with me on several significant slots

-JC

[Cappy]

John Cena = 131$
popsofctown = 25$ but gets last and recieves a penalty
Pink Ball = 70$
DRK = 121$
Gamma Emerald = 144$
Prism = 109$
Datisi = 117$
Hectic = 25$ but gets last and recieves a penalty.

Ali this is wrong, Datisi should have 132, he's missing the extra 25

- Silver Bullet

[Black Hole Defection]

Lash/pops, if you're going to do the roleplay thing, may I suggest you call town the Allied Nations instead of Orange Star, given the plot of Dual Strike seems to be what you're referencing with your hydra?

-Latios

Huh? I don't remember posting about the Dual Strike War. But you'd be right that talking about that war specifically is the only time Nell's gonna let you call Orange Star "Allied Nations", or talk very much about how Blue Moon and Yellow Comet used to be a thing. She probably would have had a harder time selling the rebrand if Jake and Rachel hadn't stolen so much thunder in the final battle.

Mikoto and Kuroko are a moderate to strong scumread.

VOTE: Mikoto and Kuroko

-Blake

Why the least reasons for the Black Hole General? Your blueprints are clear and seem real, which makes me want to ally with you. But you are very scary when you have Black Hole's income, so I want to check all the corners. Did you know you can fit four entire Oozium units in a jelly jar?
You showed me the blueprints for Black Hole last in the Battle of Fusion too, but they were good news when I got them.
If I'll learn this later, ignore this missive.

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Tammy and I are Plusle and Minun. We have multiple abilities, but only one that really matters.

FOLLOW ME.

Every one in the game will be forced to target us tonight. As a result, there's an incredibly large chance that we die. If we do not, then we have yet another use of FOLLOW ME tomorrow night. If scum do not have a way to counterbalance us (and thus this ends in No Kills 2 nights in a row), then lolbalance, but from this moment on, I'm operating as if I'm knocking on death's door. If you want to make a connection with me or if you care about my opinion at all, don't wait - I will not be long for this world.

This role is exciting to me because this is very likely my last game for a long while and my personal feeling is that my town game is strongest when death is assured for some absurd reason. The characters are extremely important to me personally; Plusle and Minun were some of the first pokemon Tammy and I caught when playing Pokémon Go together, and we still stick that pair in gyms whenever we take them over, and the Plusle and Minun Christmas ornaments we have are my favorite.

My request of everyone listening is to lend us their voices and their votes; pay attention to me and hold me close because I will not be available to us for long.

(also please excuse my strange mood, I had a shit day of work and probably drank too much too quickly)

Wow, I have more feelings than at the midcampaign feasting party.

I think this CO Power virtually always belongs to Orange Star. I worry that this post was a mistake, and Black Hole has a CO power meant to be used right when the Helping Hand CO Power is used if its secret is revealed. But the cat is out of the bag.

The Helping Hand CO Power greatly helps Orange Star and anyone who poses the Roleblocker CO Power should know that using it on Imperium is the same as swearing allegiance to Black Hole Army. Any player with the Watcher CO Power should use it on Imperium directly, not relying on Helping Hand CO Power to guide it, to catch anyone who might do so.

@Nacho either siblings or a couple? Leaning couple just because if so then that means you may have ended up getting together after meeting on MS which adds to the list of those people (which I believe just has cabd and penguin_alien for ones I actually know about), plus the "meeting your spouse on MS" thing is kinda a meme between me, my sister, and my mom because of when I tried to tell them that MS wasn't some shady website and was actually quite wholesome, I referred to that.

you're correct! we're a mafiascum couple.

I didn't know this, but it's rad.

I agree and also very very very very very very very heavily doubt that Prism has a post restriction

He shouldn't need one to stop being LAME!

@Silver Bullet do you also scumread insomnia or is that just Hectic?

Or more generally speaking can you tell me how do you individually feel about insomnia?

-Farkran

I think scum!insomnia tries to use his ability to make good in real time interactions in order to get townreads. I don't feel like he's doing that right now!

- Silver Bullet

yeah i didn't like this post.

~som

Do you think it's too smart for someone who hasn't peeked at some Black Hole dossiers? If you are, I'm buying what you're selling, at Kanbei's prices.

I agree and also very very very very very very very heavily doubt that Prism has a post restriction

Okay so pops is the one with the funny posting, and it's not a pr, it's roleplaying

-Latios

Wowo, you and Hawke are both gonna call me weird, huh?
But I know not to throw away my guess on that. You've been taking very short turns this game, but I agree with Blake they seem more like quick Sami captures rather than sliding piperunners away from battle.

OH MY GODS I'M AN IDIOT

I've been sitting here wondering why you guys were talking about the restriction as if it were a real thing and been getting frustrate with you all for just accepting that it was a real thing and whether or not he was town due to the pr and was going to tell you all to stop being lazy in the way you were reading him because you should be looking at why he would choose to use the pics and how he's using the pics and such to determine his alignment not mostly that he had it, which I could also have been reading wrong I don't know I'm not totally caught up yet, but it's total my bad and I'm dumb.

I read his PSA in post 207 where he says that he "may" post in pictures this whole day as him saying he was probably going to post in pictures this whole day instead of "may" meaning he is only able to post in pictures this whole day which just yeah I'm an idiot and I guess I can stop deliberating about how they mentioned in Undertale that he was a bit new and timid scum and whether or not that meant that he was purposely trying to use the pictures to avoid having to say things or not.

Unless I was right all along and go me, but I think I'm probably dumb. Okay carry on.

By the way i did not understand what this post means, and i'm not sure what's imperium read on hectic after this explanation.

-Farkran

Also i'm leaving bitmap in control for the US prime timezone, 1.30 am here and i'm sleeping, see ya

I'm not sure it was supposed to represent a town read anyway, but it's townie of you to expect to only see AI content in order to solve. I spite your early questions though so you're probably sitting on null for a day. You fucked with insomnia :shrug:

~som

I do not understand this, but it has a tinkerworthy look to it. Could you explain this again, if no one else asked you to?

Conversation on page five between Despair and Mikoto feels a bit off but I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about it. Mostly a note for myself to go back later.

Which battle's history did you study? Because in my first battle with Farkran, he s

Probably it was stupid as hell. I was mainly trying to pinpoint how useless it was and Fark latched on the bait. Maybe that's what gave you bad feelings, indeed it wasn't a good faith conversation, but not for scummy reasons, I'm just snarky when certain questions are asked and I'm pushed to answer.

~som

I played with scum fark recently in undertale and he spent pretty much the entire game doing that
when I meta'd him I found that his town game actually looks nothing like that
so I haven't really read the game yet but the "making a lot of nonsensical noise" is a major red flag from him

Hawke and I may not always see eye to eye, but our tag strength is a solid 110% on this CO.
Which battle's history did you study? In his very first game, he purchased anti-air units on a sea map and stored two bombers in a damaged cruiser. I would say it looked like nonsense. What made the difference is how much he would insist his plays are right, and overconfidence the strange moves he saw in response revealed data. The walkie talkie logs for the Battle of Undertale showed a CO Farkran who had mastered many skills but felt as nervous as a black costumed Colin about changing his tactics in a way that wouldn't reveal secrets.
Did you read the walkie talkie logs for the Battle of Undertale? I recommend them. The walkie talkies were devised by a genius.

No, I'd take this as a learning experience with Junko because she said she would help me with my scum game. Creating a dichotomy right now between how I'm posting and how she'll be posting because she's good with tone, it would only attract more scum leans on me and we probably get lynched in the end.

Tbf I'm confident if I get pushed by someone I'll cry like a baby and the wagon shifts on to like...gb maybe and then we go into D2 ignoring me and then I attempt to solve being pissed for attracting scum leans.

I was open wolfing, wasn't even trying. I was pushing things to get town read if anything, I remember having like 5 scum leans and posting in my scum PT that they shouldn't listen to me because my scumreads were all likely wrong, which they were.

~som

Yo, if CO JunkoChan's theme song has some Orange Star Chords, why wouldn't we be thinking you're Orange Star too since you're tag COs? Is it that deep down you know that's wrong??

It'll be a pretty krazy revelation I'm sure

CO John Cena, you talk to me or about me far less when with Black Hole, and once you finally do it sometimes tells me a lot about you. Why don't you sit down in the back of the jeep and tell me what a genius I am?
I've had trouble wanting to hit you up when I was only half sure about your disguise. I'm not one to try a shot and guess whether it will work out or not, I leave that to the robot and the dorky blonde.

I don't think we should blow this CO up day one. COs with weak stats have strong CO Powers, often. We don't know what side it's for, yeah, but CO Powers help more for Orange Star.

What does CO/CO power mean?

It might be easier to list this Battle's Commanding Officers than to explain it to you like I'm Nell or something. We both know I'm all kinds of lazy. Work smarter, not harder!:

Spoiler:

COs:Blake x Yang (Alyssa the Lamb and Taly)
Disaster Artists (John Cena and DeathRowKitty)
Egospray (bugspray and GeorgeBailey)
Black Hole Defection (popsofctown and Prism)
Imperium (Nachomamma8 and Tammy)
Mikoto and Kuroko (Bitmap and Farkran)
Smol Might (Eragon and Shadowlesscloud)
NL (GuyInFreezer and MariaR)
Equitable Androids (Gobbledygook and Titus)
The Searchers (SirCakez and Ircher)
Flavortown (Dr Easy Bake and Flavor Leaf)
Spiffybringer (Spiffeh and Firebringer)
Despair Night (JunkoChan and insomnia)
Feminist Blocc (Datisi and Ausuka)
Latias and Latios (Chemist1422 and Gamma Emerald)
Unapologetically Foxy (Pine and xofelf)
Cappy (Hectic and Pink Ball)

A CO Power is a special effect you can use to damage your enemies, or protect your friends, or learn something new. Usually you're not going to be able to charge one up before the first nightfall, and usually you have to pick a CO to BLAST with it.
It's nearly certain every CO in this battle has a CO Power, but that's not always true in other battles, like in Battle of White Flag.

Why aren’t there 10 pages of spam already /s

-Latios

Because I just woke up

-J

Oh good you remembered this game existed

-Latias

Lazy shade.

I'm not quite following my head's townread on

Latios/Latias

just yet, why should I, or why not?

I think you should listen. I can understand some COs getting there more slowly, because neither CO is using more complex strategies Orange Star COs often must use to get S-Ranks. But to be nasty - they never do, and I have not found their simple moves very helpful, but they have always been towards the fight. CO John Cena has managed to make as many moves, draw less attacks, yet hide his units underwater every other move, and still we do not buy cruisers. That is more concerning than how simple Latias's helicopters are, there at least small tanks in play that make them on-topic.

The PR (real or not) doesn't make Cappy town

SC

Well yes but it s fun enough to let them live a bit longer honestly

You're not being a straight shooter. Why did you switch stories? None of the Fog of War on Cappy had moved, you only learned The Searchers don't like your take.

Ooh, I want this answered.

Thank you for your help, I am having to view so many previous moves this game I need the help.

Farkran wolf for mindmelding on Cappy

/s

hi farkran we aren't magical girls this time but we can be masons for real this time if you want :3


-E

I hope we do, i still feel bad about the last normal. I don't scumread you as of now so it's all good

Why the latibros scum? I think they are ok, not engaged much but no sign of scumminess yet?

-Farkran

This makes me think, no matter Farkran's army, his matching analysis style is going to be the thing that keeps me from getting BORED! Lots of people just flatly stating "this post is Black Hole". That's no fun! I hope we can tag, but even a thrilling enemy is something to look forwards to, Sonja knows that.

TOWN

Latias and Latios (Chemist1422 and Gamma Emerald)

Cappy (Hectic and Pink Ball)

How do you feel so certain about Cappy?

Spoiler: readlist

Reads as of 199.

(From rereading the thread.)

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
The Searchers (100%): Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
Mikoto and Kuroko: 91 is a decent entrance, but it does give off the newer player vibe. (A bit too cordial, etc.) 122 has the same vibe as the entrance post. 127 is a good vote. 129 is a bit of a copout though.

Neutral Town

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read or Diffident Read)
Cappy (+50%): The posting restriction is definitely +town equity. I doubt it's faked even if it is Hectic we're talking about.

Latias and Latios (+40%): A little bit of gut with a hint of meta sprinkled in.

Spiffybringer (+34%): Fire is just being fire. Good vibes overall from their slot.

Null

(0%-30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Feminist Blocc (+3%): Feels townish, though Disaster Artists' lightheartedness around this slot is worrying.

Equitable Androids (+2%): I like the vote in 130.

Blake X Yang (+1%): 126 is a good point, but it's negated by the fact they didn't do anything to redirect the conversation. Their reads worry me though as they are basically the opposite of mine.

egospray (-8%): First several posts are doing pretty much nothing.

Imperium (-9%): Not fond of entrance posts like 190.

Neutral Scum

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read or Diffident Read)
Dispair Night (-40%): 49 is a poor first impression. 123 is obnoxious, and it is something I can see scum doing.

Disaster Artists (-47%): 70 is something scum would say. 79 strikes me poorly as well. Too buddy-buddy for my tastes. Despite what they say, 181 *is* overly pedantic.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)

​​

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)

Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null section contains both townreads and scumreads, and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates (and somewhat arbitrary) and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a quadratic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be less than the difference between 30% and 60%.

Disclaimer: These reads reflect my reads and not those of my hydra partner.

~Ircher

Well no shit that's a nice readlist. And aside from the good formatting i see that we agree on the relevant stuff.

No way. It should be black.

I'm townreading Mikoto & Kuroko and Blake and can't remember Taly's name

- Silver Bullet

Also sorry i thought i had enabled signature on this account but apparently i didn't so forgive me for this test post where i fix the issue

-Farkran

The post I mentioned earlier is not as whack as a Bitmap post, since he fought in a similar way alongside Orange Star in the Battle of Magical Girls.
I've mostly not read the opening dossier about how each CO has disguised themselves. It's more fun to make some mistakes, even if it causes a death or two. Teehee.

Both Spiffeh and Fire are playing to their metas
Not town or scum, just their usual

SC

Spiffybringer (+34%)

Yo, 34% is a big number. You don't have to be a genius like me to realize that's not "usual". Responding to a request for your blueprints by saying you didn't build it anyway is what my Black Hole lieutenants did when they were missing deadlines, because they don't know how to build anyway.
Vote: Searcher
Unbolded, I am not caught up yet and will not catch up before I need to go to bed, so Hawke can continue to move the chesspieces, for now. But if you want a genius's take, this says most about uniform color of anything I've read so far.

Why are you interested in this specific read of

Ircher

and not the other reads that have higher confidence or even less specific reasoning?

You're definitely not picking up what I'm putting down. CO Ircher did not abandon any of his other plans, just that one, and that was the only one or one of few he was asked about. When he was asked about it, he cancelled the project, and tried to pretend he didn't feel that strongly about doing it anyway. If he was Orange Star, even if being asked made him realize his blueprints weren't as good as he remembered, he would not abandon a plan with a strength of 34%. He would not care about embarassment and looking like a bad CO, as Black Hole worries about that more.
Neither a plan of 34% or 0% on CO Spiffybringer is bad on its own. Switching back and forth for which one you think pleases people is jank!

I will get to you

Searcher/Farkran

, about to head into another online lecture.

-yang

Looking cute won't win you combat Nell.
Blake is the easier opponent for me, I think I mentioned that after the Battle of Purgatory, so I'm looking forward to seeing her on the battefield here and not just in your HQ. Your moves have been a blur to me thus far. Are you an Eagle?

im a toucan bby

But yeah, my moves are blurry to me even, tbh. If you mean

"opponent"

in a flavor context, as in ease of reading and not combating, then I'm inclined to see your genuineness.

Though, you're not accomplishing much by keeping me in stated mystery.

I found it harder to determine whether you were loyal to Black Hole in the Battle of Purgatory, but it seemed clear to me that Blake was on their payroll.

[Cappy]

DRK has actually been talking to me very regularly in hydra PT, she likes backseating in main thread I think. Also I don't like foregrounding all of our dissonance even though she has disagreed with me on several significant slots

-JC

Anything worth commenting? Maybe I agree with her more than you on some matters

- Silver Bullet

[Smol Might]

now im really glad i didnt join in

[Superb Subtlety]

John Cena = 131$
popsofctown = 25$ but gets last and recieves a penalty
Pink Ball = 70$
DRK = 121$
Gamma Emerald = 144$
Prism = 109$
Datisi = 117$
Hectic = 25$ but gets last and recieves a penalty.

Ali this is wrong, Datisi should have 132, he's missing the extra 25

- Silver Bullet

fixed

[Disaster Artists]

Anything worth commenting? Maybe I agree with her more than you on some matters

- Silver Bullet

I'd prefer to hold our dissonance until any pushes that are or are not in progress are resolved

I'd like NJC to post in the thread more tbh but I also just asked her to join what ended up being a 4 hour game of minesweeper so this might not be the best time to poke her about reads tbh

-JC

[Cappy]

Yeah I just read that thread, leave her.

And by the way, Prism is town.

- Silver Bullet

[Black Hole Defection]

Cappy is a bad vote atm and we want to move it but pops wants Searchers and I don't. I don't have a scumread but want DA almost by default. So we're just going to put it there for now until tomorrow because I refuse to let reading this game be literally the only thing I've done all day.

VOTE: Disaster Artist

re: Hectic I really appreciate you working with me here. I didn't get anything out of the progression unfortunately but that's kind of the nature of the beast.

[Disaster Artists]

is that DRK related or irt me?

-JC

[Black Hole Defection]

More DRK but I also have been willing to dismiss a lot about you as a different playstyle to revisit. I need to sit down and focus.

[Disaster Artists]

what happened from your POV in the minesweeper game that made you want to push DRK?

-JC

[Black Hole Defection]

See reaction to #273. #277 claims to have reads but instead of giving them or reacting to either of me/Gamma's statements chooses to instead address why they're not posting in the main thread.

I'll stick around for 10 more minutes but after that I am physically throwing my laptop under the couch

[Disaster Artists]

In that case I only have one question before you pass out

Who is your favorite WWE wrestler?

-JC

[Black Hole Defection]

I am still reviewing logs, but wanted to post.

Russian Roulette comes to its conclusion!
The winners are
1st: Popsofctown who recieves

100$

!
2nd: Prism who recieves

75$

!
3rd: no one because 4 people died at once.

Also Tammy will recieve a penalty!

Aren't they in the same hydra. That sounds a bit rigged.

The war game record is publically viewable and impossible to cheat. If you're trying to crack a joke, I recommend loosening up for it.

Russian Roulette comes to its conclusion!
The winners are
1st: Popsofctown who recieves

100$

!
2nd: Prism who recieves

75$

!
3rd: no one because 4 people died at once.

Also Tammy will recieve a penalty!

I mean doing nothing but sniping event spaces is like hyperscummy LOL

-JC

Do you want me to post what I have written so far? That's messier. I've done nothing but read this game and snipe the event the event since getting off work today. I was asleep when the game started.

I honestly agree with Disaster Artists here. But sure, go ahead and give us your messy reads.

I've explained I first became available to devote more than like ten consecutive minutes less than an hour before the second war game started.
You need to explain why as Orange Star and only as Orange Star I would deliberately sit out the war game and allow Black Hole to get more funds.

Yo, 34% is a big number. You don't have to be a genius like me to realize that's not "usual". Responding to a request for your blueprints by saying you didn't build it anyway is what my Black Hole lieutenants did when they were missing deadlines, because they don't know how to build anyway.
Vote: Searcher

Did you read the spoiler that accompanied the readslist? It really isn't that high. Maybe it's a bit high comparatively, but that was only for the first 200 posts of the game.

If the problem is your math instructor was Jugger, that is one of the best explanations that you could still be Orange Star. Hard to say whether you are changing your view of math on the spot. Hawke doesn't dig my hypothesis here though, there's that too.

[Despair Night]

So this is my first non-IC newbie game. Welcome everyone, and JC especially from our history. I had a custom of posing some introductory questions to get the game started:

1. What is your experience at Mafia
2. How do you play as town
3. How do you play as scum
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or town

~som

Why the hell are you RQSing now? I'm a fan of it personally but imo you missed the boat HARD.

But sure, I'll bite.
1. A LOT. Been around here for 3+ years discounting breaks, and have also played on several other sites.
2. Generally I try to make myself somewhat towny but I also try to scumhunt because I feel ike I can do well if I try (or sometimes if I realy don't). I tend to get townread for silly reasons or lynched for silly reasons though.
3. I generally try to control the game, make it go the way I want without looking like that's what I'm doing. If I'm having a rather hard time of it though I tend to start turtling.
4.Probably consistency both within the game and regarding meta. I think meta is sometimes overhated.

-Latios

[Despair Night]

To Spiffy, I have no idea what you’re angling towards. State your reason for the vote or I’ll treat it as omgus and likely just ignore you.

Night night

~som

Your confusion w/ Searchers' view on my slot doesn't make much sense and is easily clarified if you read their posts
Not thrilled with your Imperium buddying but not sure if you'd be this overt about it if you were scum
And I guess just the fact that you seemed a lot more helpful in Titus v. Alisae

Tbh nothing I'm super confident in but I'd like a wagon to take off and I'm not town reading you so why not?

~Spiffy

Please enlighten me, what's so clear about this progression?

Reads as of 199.

(From rereading the thread.)

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
The Searchers (100%): Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
Mikoto and Kuroko: 91 is a decent entrance, but it does give off the newer player vibe. (A bit too cordial, etc.) 122 has the same vibe as the entrance post. 127 is a good vote. 129 is a bit of a copout though.

Neutral Town

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read or Diffident Read)
Cappy (+50%): The posting restriction is definitely +town equity. I doubt it's faked even if it is Hectic we're talking about.

Latias and Latios (+40%): A little bit of gut with a hint of meta sprinkled in.

Spiffybringer (+34%): Fire is just being fire. Good vibes overall from their slot.

Null

(0%-30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Feminist Blocc (+3%): Feels townish, though Disaster Artists' lightheartedness around this slot is worrying.

Equitable Androids (+2%): I like the vote in 130.

Blake X Yang (+1%): 126 is a good point, but it's negated by the fact they didn't do anything to redirect the conversation. Their reads worry me though as they are basically the opposite of mine.

egospray (-8%): First several posts are doing pretty much nothing.

Imperium (-9%): Not fond of entrance posts like 190.

Neutral Scum

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read or Diffident Read)
Dispair Night (-40%): 49 is a poor first impression. 123 is obnoxious, and it is something I can see scum doing.

Disaster Artists (-47%): 70 is something scum would say. 79 strikes me poorly as well. Too buddy-buddy for my tastes. Despite what they say, 181 *is* overly pedantic.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)

​​

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)

Spoiler: How to read this reads list

Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null section contains both townreads and scumreads, and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates (and somewhat arbitrary) and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a quadratic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be less than the difference between 30% and 60%.

Disclaimer: These reads reflect my reads and not those of my hydra partner.

~Ircher

My theory on Ircher is partially he's putting out words that say nothing.

~Titus

Imma defend my partner here and say that his big complex posts are his playstyle.
Also I know he's town

VOTE: SPIFFYBRINGER
I have no idea what Ircher thinks about this slot but they are scum. I've had this secret SR for a bit and Spiff's reaction to the event just confirms it for me.

Unapologetically Foxy also maybe scum too! (This is unreleated to my SB read)
P-edit:

Nah that's just my natural winning personality

I can't help but be likable!

~Spiffy

I know your lovable personality and I don't think this is the usual sadly
I hope I'm wrong!

SC

I can't respond to 653's criticisms of us since they're targeted at Ircher but I alerted him about in the hydra pt.

Mikoto and Kuroko are a moderate to strong scumread.

I'm interested in hearing more about this given my decently strong TR on the slot.

tammy didn't like sircakez and I see why
who the f asks their hydra partner permission to move a vote on page 4???

I do
Because I'm RESPECTFUL unlike some of you!

I felt Latias/Latios had the worst ISO at the time but nothing I could explicitly call scummy.

What does this even mean...

I'm glad the Spiffybringer wagon is rolling. I find it hard to believe that the best push town!Spiff comes up with here is Smol Might, basically a troll slot.
I feel better about Imperium w/Nacho's posting spree over the last few pages.
Blake x Yang remains town. 810 is really weird though?? Like I feel that IC thing was clearly a joke.
I could PL Smol Might for their spam but I don't really see scum intent there? Ircher doesn't like them though so I could see us ending up voting there I suppose. I'm cautious because SB is really pushing there w/o strong reasoning.
Lastly, even if Hectic's PR is fake it's still NAI...

VOTE: Despair Nights

[Despair Night]

Like I PROMISE none of Nacho's drunkposting from last night is indicative of town!Imperium

They still COULD be town, but they should not be written off as town by like half the playlist like they have already.

~Spiffy

Again with the same question I asked last night and you ignored it. Who called Imperium town?

[Despair Night]

What is your general proficiency with reads at the end of Day 1?

- Beep

No idea, I'm way better D2. Honestly, most of the time I throw shit on D1 for other people to make inferences based on.

As you can see, I have a self-mechanism of putting myself out there, mainly because I feel like other people's inquires aren't leading me anywhere. I like getting my own answers. I wish other people would sacrifice themselves so I could sort, but it's not going to happen.

I think if I could skip the entire Day 1 and start on Day 2, that would be a different story altogether.

If someone could like shift this whole suspicion on me thing and leave me alone, I'd start solving.

~som

[Latias and Latios]

So I started talking reads with Prism during the minesweeper-thon and we got onto the topic of the M&K hydra and he asked for what I found scumm from them, these are what I feel are each head's scummiest post.

I got asked to

stop being a lazy butt

analyze the Blake x Yang slot more.

And

Farkran

has a tone and playstyle that reminds me A LOT of my newb-mafia games. Like, nearly same person vibes off the bat.

So, I want them to spew. We can townspew together or they scumspew and I townspew them into oblivion.

I have no solid play experience with either player above.

Yes, my partner tends to look face value scummy in games that he's town.

Yang: Why are you posting all of this and contributing to the problem you're describing?

And Hectic, I don't see why you can't elaborate on the egospray progression.

-Prism

I'm doing the opposite of contributing to the problem.

By displaying my loss at following the thread, I'm figuring out who is willing to sort with a slot, work with a slot, or exclusively look for reasons to suspect a slot. I'm also seeing how the most active players perceive the game so I can give context to their thought process, and assess them with more confidence.

-yang

hi im willing to sort w/ u

605 doesn't feel scummy. I think it's pretty decent and has good footholds on players unless I'm missing something.

630 is a continuation of reads building imo which is good I think. Farkran is pretty hard to read alignment wise.

I am caught up.

Imperium is town. I'm familiar enough with Tammy to believe that her posting is more likely to come from town than scum.
Spiffybringer is town. Spiffeh's approach to the game doesn't look scum motivated.
Latias and Latios is town. I strongly suspect that I'd be catching on to them by now if they were scum with how much they're posting and how relevant a lot of it is.
Disaster Artists is likely town. I'm not necessarily locktowning them at this point like I feel I should be if they are town, but I don't believe that indicates scum either.
Unapologetically Foxy is likely town through my personality read on Xofelf, but I notably have only seen her play once in recent memory that I am aware of.
The Searchers is likely town. This is a gutread from SirCakez' posting.
Cappy is likely town. I don't get the impression that the hydra would be playing the way they are if they rolled scum this game.

NL, Smol Might, Flavortown, Egospray, Feminist Blocc, Equitable Androids, and Black Hole Defection are slots I'm not expressly townreading or scumreading.

Despair Night is a slight scumread.
Mikoto and Kuroko are a moderate to strong scumread.

VOTE: Mikoto and Kuroko

-Blake

Gonna need you to clarify why you scumread our slot.

I will probably go into why I scumread Mikoto and Kuroko later today. It mostly depends on whether my motivation for mafia maintains itself throughout the day.

I will note that I am untested with Farkran's scumgame and I have an inconsistent record at reading Bitmap, but I still believe that from what I know of how they play, both their approaches look more likely to come from a scum PM than a town PM.

-Blake

If you're using my activity as AI, it's a bad idea. But I don't blame you for using that as a surface level read.

Interesting.

I don't remember Farkran ever shading slots like he is here before.

-Blake

I have. :3

Going to talk to Farkran but I see Blake X Yang as probably leaning town. However, I'm letting Farkran be the solvey head cause he's better at that than me. I'm the obv-town head.

-Mikoto

This post by BMP really feels like it lacks some of the bite I expect from BMP's town posting. It's like he's submitting himself to the BEES hydra

If I can't engage by reading 20+ pages that boomed out of nowhere, then I'm taking a much more conversational approach to adapt, at least until I have a better handle of more than just a handful of players.

I think not looking into my push for content a second deeper is a very surface level mentality, and I'm weeding that out because it's a reason why the game is so dense. Namely, if people are more talkative, then they either provide tons of content or none at all - and it's very likely AI. That's how I sort in this situation.

-yang

p-edit

Maybe but everyone would be more excited to see your spicy hot takes without guidance

-JC

Speaker

is town, I've never encountered

Ircher

with this level of content that isn't town of him. A lot of his reads aren't the most popular at first glance, at least in my agreement with him, but he's not enforcing his will upon others, so I think he's town here. He's not aligning to a specific thought process and constructing his own.

Night Despair

felt town for reasons I've already mentioned. I don't follow the suspicion on him and I enjoyed some of their entrance posting, tbh.

You're very likely town to me because you're consistently in the thread but are finding means to sort - this is reinforced by who I think you are,

Cena

. I figured you wouldn't have such a conversational tone and sort in a scum POV because you're capable of devising very nuanced plans.

Unapologetic Foxy

actually felt town off first glance but that could be me misreading their personal vibe as AI. Through scampering the thread before it got larger earlier, I found that they townread this hydra -

and I want them to elaborate on why.

Since they supported someone who 1/2 of the hydra didn't agree with one of the first wagons of the game, I want to know what about this hydra's content is appealing.

Farkran Hydra

is harder to follow since multiple people with experience have expressed confusion in relation to their vibe - my other head

Blake

included. I like their consistent posting for content but I think they focus on details a bit much, and I'd like to become more conversational with them when it's more possible. I don't have a strong pull on this hydra either way, but I do not care for the other head saying

"guess I'll have to obvtown"

at some point, seemed defensive in nature.

I'm kind of sad

Hectic

died, I wanted to see why he felt

Farkran hydra/This hydra

was town, since both of us didn't have a clarified read on the other even after a subtle exchange.

Also, I greatly abhor people discussing post restrictions. It solves nothing. It's NAI.

Have not liked anything I've seen of

ego

, they've been present but not doing much. I disliked their associative of

Night Despair/this hydra

because I didn't feel convinced by the push there? Yeah, not stellar reasoning, but it's something. I want to communicate with my head before doing a push, ideally.

Everyone pushing

Pops

to die for winning the game feels very weird, and I want the reasoning explained.

I liked something about

Prism's

posting but I forgot.

Interesting post from Yang, whereas i remember a terrible push from blake happening several pages ahead of where i am at. These two hydra are both reasonably active (not top posters, but also definitely not lurkers) but do not seem to be privately communicating about their opinions. I have just recently played my first game in a hydra with alisae, and we've been collaborating the shit out of that game as a town slot. This hydra with bitmap is vastly different, but that's because bitmap is fairly disengaged with the game so far.

Yet, i would expect that taly/alyssa would be much more in line with their posting, and seeing these independent strikes from them is not something i'm fancying right now. Their voting pattern is also a bit weird based on progression, but i'll go about this later when i get to blake posts.

-Farkran

This however reeks of laying tracks to go on the attack once Farkran reaches the point where Blake starts pushing him.

Not too in-depth but that's what I've got to say there. There's obviously more to it but these are the big tickets posts.

-Latios

[Despair Night]

Yo, if CO JunkoChan's theme song has some Orange Star Chords, why wouldn't we be thinking you're Orange Star too since you're tag COs? Is it that deep down you know that's wrong??

Fuck did I just read?

~som

[Disaster Artists]

Like I PROMISE none of Nacho's drunkposting from last night is indicative of town!Imperium

They still COULD be town, but they should not be written off as town by like half the playlist like they have already.

~Spiffy

Again with the same question I asked last night and you ignored it. Who called Imperium town?

I did for sure and even invisible I think I am still half the playerlist

After all spiffy thinks I have your slot too and thinks you're town!

-JC