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[Malakittens]

UNVOTE: Titus

Don’t rally want any funny business til we sort this out.

[TheTrollie]

so titus...to be clear, you are now claiming VT, yeah?

[Titus]

Yes, I am a VT.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Titus

[TheTrollie]

ok so then what i dont understand is this...

My endgame was to get shot as a PT cop. If I didn't, it suggests Molla's mason claim has more merit.

The phrasing here is odd. If you think there are implications to the fact that you were not killed last night, you should just make the case. To say "If I didn't [get shot as a PT cop]" when we all know you didn't get shot is odd. its not necessarily a scum-tell, but it makes more sense coming from scum who is painting a false hypothetical bc they are scum af. I don't buy that as town, you wouldn't come out and just tell us blankly what it is that you believe your still being alive means. (i.e. the definitely better, and probably more town phrasing of the second sentence is "Since that isn't what happened, Molla is probably not scum")

You even do it again in 721

Because a PT Cop gets a false positive on masons. If I suggest hey Danyboy has a PT and you're not scum, scum get a free mason. If I say Danyboy lacks a PT, they know you aren't a mason. If they didn't believe masons could exist, they shoot me as I am a straight up cop.

the pro-town way to say this is to explain how your being alive means we might be able to make certain assumptions about bb being scum. The fact that you instead are trying to justify the fakeclaim with what you were at the time thinking it WOULD mean as opposed to telling us how it does mean something is scummy imo

I also dont even think ur correct, as long as there is a mason claim in the game, a town PT cop has the ability to help scum. ScumBB knows that if ur a PT cop you can't actually make any conclusions as to the alignment of anyone unless you suss out BB's alignment. no scum was going to shoot you after you almost got run up late D1 and were claiming a role that could help scum whether or not BB is town.

it just feels like a fabricated justification for a bad claim. I'm also not even sure why you retracted the claim so quickly. or at least gave any info on why you fakeclaimed before being pressed

[bob3141]

VOTE: Titus

I just dont trust soem one lying about beign a strong pr. Feels to much like back rowing after seeing esj pr flip

[bob3141]

should be l-1

[iDanyboy]

I would prefer if we didn’t lynch him yet, I think there’s more we can get from the day.

[TheTrollie]

I agree with idanny about letting d2 play out a bit

[geraintm]

Why, just gives time for people to get bored.
Most of us arent moving our votes, what you hope to gain from letting things run on?

[iDanyboy]

Who the other two scum are, I know BambiJ has something to post and I don’t think Madoka has even posted yet.

[iDanyboy]

And if Titus is scum I think it’s awkward for scum to play while she is still alive.

[iDanyboy]

We can discuss if anyone finds Mav/Allo scummy and I think everyone Titus pushes is town if she is scum.

[TheTrollie]

Who the other two scum are, I know BambiJ has something to post and I don’t think Madoka has even posted yet.

Mala took the madoka slot.

Is there anything to glean from idanny not knowing this? i dont think so but maybe?

[BBmolla]

I don't really feel like it's time well used to start playing the game assuming Titus has flipped when she hasn't

But maybe that's just me

[iDanyboy]

BBmolla, Morning Tweet, Cat Scratch Fever, Allomancer, espresso


That was the wagon on titus and i cant see 5 townies voting up para


bbmola has claimed mason, morning i think is town. Allomancer i have town lean on.

leavign epsresso and cat. One of those has got to be scum.

Do you still scumread Cat? And does your VCA change if Titus is scum?

I don't really feel like it's time well used to start playing the game assuming Titus has flipped when she hasn't

But maybe that's just me

I just don't feel like everyone posting Titus is scum and calling it a day is a good use of the day phase, even if we ignore Titus we can still discuss our other scumreads that we have.

[BBmolla]

mm

For me I'll likely do nothing, I don't want to posture off of a possible nonfact and my reads are going to be very based off this flip

[TheTrollie]

Yeah ok BB is right.

Intent to hammer - I'm obv not waiting on a claim but I'll let some ppl who havent had a chance to weigh in on this speak before i hammer.

[Malakittens]

The only thing that I’m kinda going back and forth on... is why would scum!titus not just continue to go with the cop claim. IDK what scum agenda would be to claim that she was lying and is VT.

I was mulling at that at work today

[SirCakez]

Votecount 2.2

Titus (5) - Allomancer, geraintm, mavsfan41, BBmolla, bob3141

Not voting (6) - TheTrollie, iDanyboy, Titus, Bambi Jay, Cat Scratch Fever, Malakittens

(expired on 2020-04-22 09:40:00) remain until day end

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to reach a majority.

[Allomancer]

The only thing that I’m kinda going back and forth on... is why would scum!titus not just continue to go with the cop claim. IDK what scum agenda would be to claim that she was lying and is VT.

I was mulling at that at work today

No matter what Titus flips, her behavior will have been very confusing

[Malakittens]

Oh I’m not even dismissing that in the slightest.

Either way I’m low key going to be more mad at her if she flips town and has lied. If she’s scum and lied kudos to her for making it one more day. Just if she’s town and she lied then she wasted a whole day and caught a PR in her crossfire.

[Malakittens]

Considering we have 11 people alive it shouldn’t be this quiet.

I also really don’t want D2 to end rn.

I want to hear everyone’s thoughts if we haven’t already.

[iDanyboy]

What do you want to know?

[mavsfan41]

My endgame was to get shot as a PT cop. If I didn't, it suggests Molla's mason claim has more merit.

I never get mislynched without scum pushing me to save one of their own. I wasn't about to here. Better a scummy slot than me.

I want to look at the slot who voted Allomancer, Allomancer and geratim today. Geratim because opportunistic, the guy who voted Allomancer because that had a zero percent chance of happening and Allomancer in case of a bus/that person being right.

I’m so confused by the first section here. Was your plan to get shot to clear BBmola? If you were willing to fake claim, you must’ve had suspicion about BBmola’s claim of mason, but elected not to pursue this. Also, by fake claiming, wouldn’t you draw the interest of the nurse, and therefore allowing basically ANYONE to be NK’ed? And I’m guessing if there is a nurse, you drew them, so it’s unlikely you even would’ve been NK’ed had you been actually targeted. Which means you wouldn’t have been turned up dead meaning a NK wouldn’t have happened and no one other than the nurse or scum knows who was targeted. With no NK, sure there would have been speculation that you were targeted and confirming BBmola, but that’s hardly concrete proof as both could’ve targeted BBmola. This strategy just seems extremely risky and complicated for the reward of a slightly more likely chance BBmola is mason.