On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Latias and Latios]

I mean gamma 'you said something similar in a scumgame once' is not a spicy hottake when we have like 10,000 posts together

You might feel like your meta take was fire but all you're doing is reminding me why I started this game as a stealth alt

And why would that be? And like it might not be very spicy but do you have a good point against my read on that line? I feel like it's very possible you fully expected me to overlook that, or didn't realize the can of worms you were opening.

Latios, what's your read on Blake right now?

~som

Town, but I'm feeling really salty that she tried to shoot me down on my alt guess and seems to favor JC over me here

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

Latios, it's relevant to point out that I have been at work for an hour and I had to prepare for an hour before that.

There's a limit to what I can do during that time.

I will, however, say that part of my read is based on how each participant handled the engagement. Yours stuck out.

-Blake

I'd really like if you could tell me what "stuck out" means.

-Latios

[Disaster Artists]

You're pissed off because you imagine you were disrespected when what happened was townreads degraded because your push wasn't very townie

Even if you are town, which I think you probably are, you should try to recognize that blake's read of you degrading is not a bad look for her

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Conversation on page five between Despair and Mikoto feels a bit off but I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about it. Mostly a note for myself to go back later.

What was weird about it?

Also Blake x Yang giving me good vibes with their recent posts.

-Mikoto

So, I just posted a whole response to you which got deleted somehow just as I was about to be done, so the other one was probably better unless this one is amazing then the second go round is great! (I blame my cat)

BUT

Did you really just ask me to explain something I just said I can't explain?

If you're asking me because you didn't read then twitch twitch twitch

but if you're asking me to at least try cuz you like reading weird roundabout thoughts then okay I can work with that

When I first read your interaction it sounded to me a bit like how scum try to sound like they're definitely not a pair. But thought that was my knee-jerk response when I read it again I wasn't so convinced that that was it but there still felt like there was something there. <----that feeling might have originated with your first question which was super empty like why wouldn't someone want a vig shot? vig shot is at the top of the best roles ever, so asking why someone wanted one was super empty and felt like you trying to figure out how to start a conversation with someone. From there it just got weirder because while despair was being coy and that's whatever, you were really over formal. Like to me you just read like someone standing over despair in a stuffed shirt talking down to her and it read really formal and weird. And after undertale, nacho was talking to me about why he thought he originally misread your meta in that when he only read your scum games he got a picture of you as someone who was very formal as scum and I was like is this what nacho was talking about with the formalities of a scum game? I don't know, but something just felt off about that conversation, enough that I read it a few times trying to figure out why I got a bit fixated on it. Might be nothing, might be something.

Catching up

Note that you're talking to bitmap here, not Farkran! He's the Mikoto of our pair.

I get the formal/newbietone/too stiff description all the time, and i already explained my thought process about the vig question in a later post. I don't know why formality would be scum indicative, but i have pretty much already sorted you for today (also in a later post). Could you answer 811 though? That's one quite important question.

-Farkran

[Latias and Latios]

You're pissed off because you imagine you were disrespected when what happened was townreads degraded because your push wasn't very townie

Even if you are town, which I think you probably are, you should try to recognize that blake's read of you degrading is not a bad look for her

Yeah I've tried to be clear I'm not scumreading Blake for that at all
I just feel personally affronted.

-Latios

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Idk I thought Farkran's entrance seemed p. genuine so I kinda wrote them off, I'm a little iffier on their more recent posts.

~Spiffy

Elaborate on what is iffier on my recent posts?

-Farkran

[Latias and Latios]

Alright well I'm taking a break because I just realized I can do something wrt: watching a show I've been wanting to do for months now

-Latios

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

VOTE: Imperium

What's this?

-Farkran

[Latias and Latios]

Okay well my hope was short-lived but I need sleep anyway so whatever, peace

-

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Titus, vastly different from the little i know about scum!titus, similar to town!titus in the open TM where i was discussing with NaCl. I do not have a reputation of reading gobble well, but i am currently fairly confident on this slot being town. To elaborate, the scum!titus i know is by far more aggressive and less interested in communicating with other slots, more like she wants to destroy them with arguments that could be good or bad depending on the situation, but the point is that there is no interest in communication as a mean to re-evaluate, whereas in this game titus does communicate.

-Farkran

this isn't titus's scum v town meta btw
i thought you didn't really like meta?

I dislike doing metadives, but i like going from memory. I played with scum!titus once and she was terrible with relationships. I've seen town!titus in TM and she was town. I think this titus is town.

Correct me if i am mistaken, because my knowledge of town!titus is little, and that of scum!titus is even less. My read is not entirely based on meta though.

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

*claps at Insomnia/Imperium*

After a very lazy

Smol Might

ISO skim, I thought this was a solid vote since:

Notice: Post Restrictions are not restricted to town and can also be faked

-J

Is the sum of what I dislike in discussing all validities of claims, so what warrants a vote on this slot?

-yang

yang i don't know what the second half of this post means but the post of smol might you quote here is a direct response to Farkran calling Hectic town because meta, which imo is a very fair response to that super incorrect assertion

Why are you assuming that my read of hectic is entirely meta as well? Besides, you were the one who spared hectic because of his scum meta in Undertale - i think in this case hectic meta reinforces my read, but it's not all that there is to it. Hectic is very likely town here.

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

So let's play a game called "getting nightkilled on N1", inspired by A50!

We're already a good target since Hectic is loaded and we're being townread by many (some of them with really shitty reasoning so look that up when we die), but this are my reads, some discussed with Mario himself and others just by the sweetest ball of all:

Blake x Yang - town
Disaster Artists - scum
Egospray - town
Black Hole Defection - town
Imperium - town
Mikoto and Kuroko - town
Smol Might - scum
NL - town
Equitable Androids - town
The Searchers - null
Flavortown town
Spiffybringer - null
Despair Night - town
Feminist Blocc - scum
Latias and Latios - town
Unapologetically Foxy - null
Cappy - town

12 towns, 2 nulls, 3 scums.

Pretty much solved, you're welcome!

- Silver Bullet

Can you elaborate on these please?
- Blake/yang town
- NL town
- egospray town

These are the reads i disagree with, on a decent level of confidence.

I really want to see what am i missing about blake/yang for everyone to read them as town when they have refused to produce anything useful about the gamestate, and the only reason i am doubting my scumread of them is because bitmap talked me out of it and i have wrongly considered their progression on me. As the game moves forward though, they still have only 1 scumread, which i know to be wrong, and no tentative to improve.

NL town seems incredibly lazy as a read for somebody who has less than 10 posts overall, none of which is AI to me?

egospray town is eh.

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Lol fuck me for having to decide which is the scum in Imperium and Spiffy

Lol JC should get shot lol he’s scum lol

~som

So you've finally decided to answer my early question?

Jokes aside, you can join us on the wagon against scum. It's a good wagon, i currently have prism/pops as locktown based on pops posting (prism looks like town too but i just don't feel accurate enough on him, way way more confident on pops town), and flavorleaf is miles away from his scum meta

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Spoiler: Disaster Artists

I mean I'm sure surprised you decided to give up your chances of endgaming with one post

Shame you didn't roll town this game

And you had that chance too at the very beginning

-JC

I mean town you isn't braindead enough to write that post so I mean you're never alive past day 3 now

Like I don't know why you make that play but you're not recovering from it

-JC

I mean you just said you wanted less pressure and then you proposed a vig shot on me. That does not compute

I'm gonna say town you does not make that play because town you knows you get lynched over me every single time this game

I don't really know what you were going for but I can't imagine a world where you are willing to risk drawing my spite as town. I have to assume you're just trying to flip your play from the superlarge and maybe thought you would not become immediately dead and happened to be mistaken

-JC

Ok, so now you just explained why you're scum. You thought you'd get townread for a play that makes no sense. The problem is your play makes no sense from a town POV. You don't come off our last three games together and say 'oh yeah vig john cena night 1' when you have no read of me.

And if you do make that play as town, then well you will learn from your mistake with your death. Either way, congrats on earning an immediate death!

-JC

Town you does not volunteer for death. That was my point.

-JC

So... this is an omgus move without the vote, while despair nights is currently the top wagon and very plausibly lynchable. How does the displayed confidence in the quoted posts match with your lack of an action here?

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

@Cappy, Latiguys and Despair Night

this is a good time to consolidate the wagon again Disaster Artists. The wagon is good and Despair Artists is likely scum.

1) There's no reason to shoot insomnia over lynching her hydra as of now, that's completely bullshit because she is lynchable but they still want to shoot her because she won't flip by removing just 1 head. Keeping one of the most scumread slots in the game when you ALSO believe they are scum is bad.
2) DA iso goes from shitposting with specks of content to shade town to omgus half of the playerlist
3) Associatives make sense. I know a lot of you don't play with preflip associatives, but i like to have a view of a possible gamestate when pushing for a lynch. My current solve is NL+egospray+disaster+blake for the record.

-Farkran

[Blake X Yang]

Disaster Artists is transparently town.

-Blake

[Blake X Yang]

You think in very black and white terms, Farkran.

To understand why your first point is not scum indicative, ask yourself what changes if insomnia is flipped overnight vs lynched today.

The difference between the two tells you everything you need to know about why town would go that route.

Your second point is not alignment indicative for Krazy specifically.

-Blake

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

One head of a hydra won't flip. Vig shots only remove one head.

A hydra lynch will flip.

Besides, blake, i have been trying to engage with you AND yang long before now, yet you decide to answer me only to defend DA on a read that, as town, you cannot be sure about? No thanks

-Farkran

[Blake X Yang]

Very well. This engagement is over.

-Blake

[Despair Night]

very plausibly lynchable.

[egospray]

wow da sig is pretty nice!!

[egospray]

tbh id policy lynch depair night for being annoying but george probably has better reads so i will allow his ego to bubble off while it is convenient for me

[egospray]

oh cool we still have that vote up im a baller

[Despair Night]

Enlightening insight, spray can!

Slaughter the annoying people on policies instead of lurksacks!

~som

[Despair Night]

If xoffy hasn’t played a lot of forum mafia games (not turbo/mishmashes) then I’m tempted to call the slot scum.

~som