Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

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VC 2.4

NDMath (4):

Blake Belladonna, Paragon, Eyestott, Aloratom

Blake Belladonna (2):

Firebringer, NDMath

Something_Smart (1):

Churros

Not Voting:

Taly, Something_Smart

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-04-15 04:21:22)

Mod notice

• Prodding Firebringer and Blake Belladonna.
  
  
• Churros is on VLA until monday.

[Blake Belladonna]

Hello.

Is there anything I need to address immediately?

[Aloratom]

Hello.

Is there anything I need to address immediately?

I don't think so. I think we just need a hammer on NDMath.

[Paragon]

@mod

: Forebringer asked to be replaced.

Someone hammer please.

[NDMath]

Someone convince me it is possible for both
Me being town and
a scum being off my wagon.

Because currently I'm not very convinced.

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@mod: Forebringer asked to be replaced.

Mod notice

• I wish people read the rules as it says you should PM to be replaced, kinda why I glanced over it.
  
  
• Replacing firebringer.

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Mod notice

• Battle Mage replaces Firebringer.

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: NDMath

[Battle Mage]

(I haven't read everything, but heavily breadcrumbing vig and then claiming vanilla townie was enough for me)

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DAY 2 FINAL VC

NDMath (5 - LYNCH):

Blake Belladonna, Paragon, Eyestott, Aloratom, Battle Mage

Blake Belladonna (1):

NDMath

Something_Smart (1):

Churros

Not Voting:

Taly, Something_Smart

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NDMath

has been lynched. He was:

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome! You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You have your voice and your vote but no special abilities.
You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Night 2 begins now, and will end in (expired on 2020-04-12 15:24:04).

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Night 2 Result

Blake Belladonna

has died last night. She was:

Spoiler:

Welcome! You are a

Town 1-Shot Vigilante

.
Once per game, you may choose a target to nightkill.
You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

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Day 3 Begins!

VC 3.00

Not Voting:

Paragon, Churros, Battle Mage, Taly, Aloratom, Something_Smart, eyestott

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-04-22 18:46:43)

Mod notice

• I am shortening this day phase to 10 IRL days. Please be mindful of this.

[Paragon]

We shouldn't vote straight away! Assuming the worst and 3 scum, it's LyLo; so we need to wary of quickhammers.

Current readslist:

Aloratom
Churros
Battle Mage
Taly
Something_Smart
eyestott

Blake Belladonna dying is slightly unexpected. Looking at her final readslist, it makes me feel better about there not being 2 scum in her town section, and slightly better about eyestott/Something_Smart being scum.
Also, you killed pops, Blake; how could you :c

[Paragon]

Although, if there's a scum rolecop, she could've simply died due to being a confirmable PR (unless counterclaimed), that was checked by scum on a prior night.

[Paragon]

[eyestott]

Can we massclaim?

[Paragon]

Blake Belladonna has entered the hivemind. She's telling me to trust in her read of Churros, and put faith in her pool of scum. Luca Blight's been endorsing Blake's Churros read too.

Very well, friends.

[Paragon]

Can we massclaim?

Do you think that's a good idea? If there's any investigatives with info, they should say so, and ask for a massclaim with them going last.

Otherwise, I don't see the point of PRs outing themselves unless they're going to be lynched.

[Paragon]

Traitor crumbs:

I’m so excited to get back into mafia! Thanks everyone for playing with me, I don’t think I’ve met any of y’all before.
VOTE: Taly, I think you may be the exception! Do you remember me at all?

eyestott indicating he's Taly's traitor. Seems a little too risky in the event eyestott was ever lynched and flipped traitor.

Okay, that's the only one I could find actually.

P.S: I miss the tiger GiFs, Taly!

[eyestott]

Can we massclaim?

Do you think that's a good idea? If there's any investigatives with info, they should say so, and ask for a massclaim with them going last.

Otherwise, I don't see the point of PRs outing themselves unless they're going to be lynched.

Me. I am an investigative with information.

[Paragon]

Well then!

Is there a problem with you going now, or do you have reason to be last/later on?

[eyestott]

I’d rather be last.

[Taly]

Oh my god.

The 3 people I towncased D1 were all town.

(Fluffy 1490 - NDMath 1710 and 1712 - Blake 1347)

That's a fucking first.

Yet, I haven't been NKed because of this read accuracy, nor have I been hardpushed aside from

Churros

.

But

Churros

locked onto me before any of those towncases, so it's still harder to believe he's groupscum at worst.

+1 to Churros

.

So that means:

-Scum aren't shadowing my viewpoints this game or necessarily working to help improve them.
-Scum aren't worried about my reads in this game because plenty of people have discredited or rebuked my viewpoints on

Fuzzy/NDMath/Blake

.

(S_S never commented on 1551 and 1551 but acknowledged)

-

Fire

1607 -

Paragon (last in line here)

1638

Churros ISO D1

*Scum most certainly exist among the living players I linked posts of above.

The only person to come close to actually speaking to me about my ISOs was

Aloratom

. 1623

Reads That I Never Followed or Strongly or Directly Implied D1

-

Paragon

strong town.
-

Churros

town.
-

SS slot

scum.
-

eyestott

scum or strong town.
-

Ame slot

strong town.
-

Aloratom

scum.

There is a clear distinction in my reads on the remaining 6 slots.

I never gained traction on the people I didn't entertain as strong town. -1 to Paragon/Churros and eyestott/Ame slot

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I suspect the team is a combination of TheFuzzyLogic99, NDMath, Something_Smart, and eyestott.

This player pool is really weak in that none of the players have taken too much of a stance (S_S and eyestott) or are comparatively inactive (

me and fuzzy

). I don't follow how you think all the 'loud' players can be town.

Important note for later this game.

In retrospect, I think town has cannibalized each other JUST as

Blake

surmised.

But

Fuzzy/NDMath

being the mislynches in an

S_S/Eyestott

pool feels like an incrimination of them.

However, I don't think

S_S

is groupscum. It's so odd that he'd

"LET'S BOP

BLAKE

"

and then

Blake

up and dies when she lynches town.

Also, I don't think

S_S

-scum has the desire to EVER face

me

-town late in the game.

So,

-1 S_S/-2 Eyestott

.

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There's also another factor to consider.

VCA

I don't think I can possibly believe either

Fuzzy

or

NDMath

had all town on them.

Coincidentally, all the people that interacted with me in highest faith throughout this game AND were on these wagons, are all dead.

Pops/Fuzzy/NDMath/Blake/Luca

.

TheFuzzylogic99 (7 - LYNCH):

Blake Belladonna

, Churros,

NDMath

,

popsofctown

,

Taly

, eyestott,

Luca Blight

NDMath (2):, Paragon, Aloratom
popsofctown (1): TheFuzzylogic99

Not Voting:

Firebringer, Something_Smart

NDMath (5 - LYNCH):

Blake Belladonna

, Paragon, Eyestott, Aloratom, Battle Mage
Blake Belladonna (1): NDMath
Something_Smart (1): Churros

Not Voting: Taly, Something_Smart

Notice that only one flipped town was on the

NDMath

lynch and that was

Blake

who initiated it. I won't conclude further on what this means, as I am not sure just yet, but it is a good note.

Eyestott

voted wrong both times, and never actively pushed the person they were voting.

This is highly incriminating.

I also think

NDMath

was a setup mislynch a mile away after that

Fuzzy

flip, so

Paragon/Aloratom

are potential off-wagon scum trying to keep pressure on that slot D2.
Funnily enough,

S_S

was never on either lynch. I also don't entirely follow what this could mean. He certainly didn't combat anything or speak of a nuanced opinion against these lynches.

Churros

is off-wagon on one lynch. Really strong traitor or town, or criminally adept groupscum.

It's also damn-near impossible to read

Ame slot

because it has a fucking replacement per dayphase.

Looking at all of this together, unfiltered:

(I haven't read any posts D3 so far, I've been typing all of this up.)

Churros-Aloratom-S_S-Ame slot

must contain at least 2-3 town. 1-2 scum.
so

eyestott-Paragon

must contain at least 1 scum. I cannot see this TvT in any potential universe.

Fuck all of this if it's TvT.

Paragon

, why didn't

Fuzzy's

mislynch at least have you reevaluate

NDMath

? You jumped onto

Blake's

vibe quickly, and gave no thought more because you weren't around during the discussion. 1143 D1 / D2 1807 - 1972

You've had a GAMELONG scumread on a town-slot, man, one that the OTHER person you've hard-pushed in this game

(Me)

- has hard-defended.

Your other vote past 600 posts into this game is

Fuzzy

, the D1 mislynch that I towncased.

eyestott

, why haven't you at least attempted to read between the lines this game? You AGREED with me D1 about the

NDMath

being poor and was late to that

Fuzzy

vote, but just kept going along with the punches. 1558

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I believe that the game is mostly solved at this point.

It's hard for me to believe Churros is scum.
It's hard for me to believe Paragon is scum.
As useless and incorrect as Firebringer is, I still believe Ame was significantly town.
Taly has strange posts that make me wonder if he's trying to maneuver around the town in an overexaggerated way, but it's more likely he's just town that is undergoing mental strain regarding this game.
Aloratom equates back to town after his posts today. I didn't like the way he handled the end of day yesterday, but I'm not certain that wasn't more than a fluke.

NDMath is scum.
I can see eyestott's confusion being either genuine or fake.
Something_Smart is hard to parse.

Whether there is two scum, three scum, or two scum and a traitor, I believe that any traitor would be either Taly or Firebringer. I'm not entirely aware of how traitors are handled in the normal queue, but I suspect that traitors endgame when all group mafia are eliminated, so I'm not too worried about this.

Two scum would make sense to me if town is relatively light on power. I know that normal games tend to be rather townsided by my standards, so killing three vanilla town in a game where there is likely 4-5 town PRs is rather unlikely. It makes more sense if town's power is condensed into a smaller amount of players. In this case, I feel Something_Smart is a more likely partner than eyestott, but I would not remove Aloratom from suspicion either.

I have an incredibly hard time believing

Paragon-Churros

are T-T here, so I wonder if

Blake's

was to validate a supposed townread.

Paragon

was less suspected or vocal than

Churros

around this time,

Churros

also protected

Paragon

more than the latter, so I still think

Paragon

may have likely been townbloc'ed incorrectly.

S_S/eyestott

were literally her second and third choices.

With the idea that

Paragon-Churros

aren't T-T, I don't think

S_S/eyestott

are S-S.

Aloratom's

been a shaky townread from her, so that was probably the most realistic T-T read in such an adverse gamestate to town.

Blake

may have believed

Fire/Me

were traitors; but she also believed this wasn't a huge problem since this - she and I also agree -

that traitors don't win when the mafia are gone (I've been a traitor twice before, and I've NEVER had the win condition to survive/win by myself.

By these means; Battle Mage Slot/Me were not lynch targets as long as Blake lived. I think this is strong evidence of Ame/Fire/Battle Mage-town.

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Final Reads Before I Jump Into D3 and Read the many people trying to construct a narrative or gamesolve:

Ame-Aloratom

Churros-S_S

- T/T, T/S, S/S is the overarching question... I know

NDMath

believed T/T.

Either way, they don't feel like groupscum, so I'm EXTREMELY weary of lynching them here.

Paragon-eyestott

I'm not voting until I get a consensus in some form. Both to hear out everyone's POV, but also because if there's 3 scum, they can lolhammer anyone if 1 vote is posed.

[Something_Smart]

eyestott-Paragon must contain at least 1 scum. I cannot see this TvT in any potential universe. Fuck all of this if it's TvT.

I see TvT's described this way on a regular basis.