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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:17 pm

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I'm MrBeast, and I'm here to give MONEY MONEY MONEY to whoever I want. I already know who I want to give some MONEY MONEY MONEY but I have A LOT and I can't use it myself, so it's your time to shine gamers.

Page number 80 will be an
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Rules:
It has to be in page 80
You have to bold it so I consider it a valid attempt
You must say something nice about any player you want in this playerlist
It has to be meaningful, legit, not something like "I like Hectic 'cause he's funny". Put some effort in it dude. If you want an example, hit me up and I'll show you.

See you on page 80!

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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:26 pm

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Why did you call yourself MrBeast when your name is Silver Bullet?
"We've drained so much of the planet's energy that
it's turning into a wasteland. What's the point?
Is this prize worth dying for? Is this a noble end?"
"What's the big deal? We can always just fix it later. Right?"
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:31 pm

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In post 1826, Black Hole Defection wrote:
Why did you call yourself MrBeast when your name is Silver Bullet?
When I go to battle, everyone knows me as Silver Bullet, but I have a secret ID that I have now revealed 'cause I need COs for a new operation, called Operation Youtube.

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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:34 pm

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I don't know what Operation Youtube is but it sounds very exciting.
"We've drained so much of the planet's energy that
it's turning into a wasteland. What's the point?
Is this prize worth dying for? Is this a noble end?"
"What's the big deal? We can always just fix it later. Right?"
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:35 pm

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I like Spiffeh because he's a good player and also has a stoic energy to him that I appreciate


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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:38 pm

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Wholesome event. Yuck.

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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:43 pm

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CO Grimm, that's not the timing CO Silver Bullet described.
CO insomnia, when you promised to read CO John Cena's logging and attack him forcefully if you found no Orange Star maneuvers, even if you did not find Black Hole maneuvers, why did you do that when you would need eight other Tag Teams to join you to destroy him? Most COs would not accept that as enough evidence.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:46 pm

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Spoiler: referenced
In post 1513, Despair Night wrote:Don't question my brain dead...ness. You scum though.

I have no fear, I will fucking unleash the beast if I have to. I'm reading your ISO and if I don't see something townie I'm tunneling you.

I retained nothing out of your posts and this is uncharted territory.

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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:50 pm

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Last event technically isn't over yet

I am guessing I will be asleep for page 80 but I want you to know you're good folk floofy

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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:50 pm

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Does anyone read any of my posts?

You literally have a post in which I am explaining how it was an observation that I felt like stating and in no way was I stating a locked scum read. I just felt it was weird not to have seen JC display any town behaviour.

I don’t want him lynched, I wanted a reaction.

I want ego lynched.

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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:00 pm

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Do you view "tunneling" as a means of gaining vision rather than a way of destroying a unit as reliably as possible?
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Is this prize worth dying for? Is this a noble end?"
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:02 pm

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In post 1724, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:
In post 1722, Blake X Yang wrote:
In post 1720, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:
In post 1719, Blake X Yang wrote:I'm very confused why I should necessarily be focusing on my scumreads.

-Blake
I asked you long ago what was your confidence level on your read of me. You didn't answer. You can answer now, and clear your confusion by yourself based on that answer.

-Farkran
That depends on which point in the game you are referring to.

-Blake
Feel free to elaborate your progression, as i just said to yang i don't see how keeping it hidden would help town, nor how outing it would help scum. Out your scumcase.

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1. Your initial entrances to the game across both heads gave the impression of a scum mindset rather than a town one. Your entrance to the game was strangely more cordial than what I've been used to seeing from you. I will go into Bitmap's entrance and why I believe that was scum motivated later on.

2. When I called you out, your response was to take the time to set up your counterpush with shade and by taking the time to go into your other reads first. My personality read on you suggests that you would wish to challenge me outright immediately instead of the political approach that you instead used. I strongly suspect that your approach is based on increasing your own odds of winning the upcoming engagement as much as possible in order to stall the momentum rather than risking a direct confrontation immediately and coming across as defensive or starting on the back foot in this engagement.

At this point, I had already decided I would not be engaging into this, as it had a high likelihood of outright derailing the game, and the quality of the playerlist is high enough that even with this slot getting lynched day one and flipping scum, it would turn out better for the scumteam in the long run. It is far more productive to put pressure on the rest of the game in the way that I'm best able to, by methodically identifying town. I also am knowledgeable enough about how debates and general discourse works to know that when players are on opposite sides, those who decide the topic of the engagement have a distinct advantage in how it plays out.

3. When I stopped engaging into you, you became more aggressive in your attacks, but only at specific times. Notably, you started pushing me for not proactively pushing for my nullreads to give better content, not analyzing your process when you have no evidence that I am not already doing so, and for not focusing on my scumreads rather than townreads when I do engage into the game more completely. You have gone on record in your initial counterattack that you believe I am scum for my townreads being consensus townreads as well as my scumreads being your townreads while my nullreads are your scumreads. This is not an approach to sort my slot, which you are claiming to do. This is looking to poke holes in my play to weaken my position as much as you are able, likely to weaken my influence since there are several slots that have already properly identified that I am town. Notably, you have been shifting your approach towards this while also challenging people on their townreads of me. You aren't trying to get a scumread lynched. This is very notably different than your play in Korina is a Cultist, where even with the amount of resistance you got towards lynching me, you still stubbornly pressed on regardless because it was a genuine read.

4. Bitmap's posting is not town. He has played just like he had in Titus v Alisae, most notably that he understands he needs to do specific things, but doesn't actually do them. He has done remarkably little in the game, mentioned early on that he needs to obvtown in this game, and then continues doing next to nothing outside of a single wallpost. He similarly played halfheartedly in Titus v Alisae, to the point where when one of the scumteam's ideas for how to handle the game was to neutralize me with a neighborhood, I got remarkably little within it until it was made clear that I had another neighborhood with a player I trusted more than him. At that point, he became frantic and tried to desperately save himself to no avail. I get a similar impression that he is halfheartedly playing the game, knowing he needs to make his alignment obvious but making no strong strides to make it so.

5. I saw an opportunity to sort you once and for all after that selfsame engagement that gave me strong townreads. You started to go down the path that I initially did, scumreading John Cena for the same reasons I started to. However, you missed something absolutely critical that I was steering you towards. I know Krazy very well, and I know Insomnia well enough to understand how a 1v1 between them would go. Krazy is also aware of this and why it's a bad idea. It's simply a much better idea, if he believes that insomnia is legitimately scum, to kill him at night to drastically reduce his influence while saving the lynch today for more productive means. This is the unique utility of the vigilante role in this game. You can remove people from the game without removing their voice, so the vigilante role is much more useful as a tool to manipulate the game rather than getting flips. It suddenly is not inherently a bad idea to shoot somebody you know is town that is disrupting the game, because you don't simply remove their voice entirely as much as remove their direct influence on the game in a favor of indirect influence. You callously ignored that in favor of a scum lynch always being the better option regardless of who it is, which is a naive point of view in general, but it especially is in this game where roles serve different functions than they would normally serve. I was prepared to sort you based on how you progressed past this initial stage, since this alone is insufficient due to your insistence that I go into my read on you throughout the game and the fact that this is ground I had already treaded beforehand. Sadly, the way you went back to this ideal indicates that this correlation can't at all be ruled out, so I can't call this progression town even though on the surface it is valid. It notably is an easy thing to push as well since John Cena's part in that engagement was not popular.

I do not plan to engage you on this further. Cease the attempts.

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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:03 pm

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I kinda think alisae wanted to play mario party because the mini events clash more with mafia the longer this goes on tbh

In my mind the game only actually starts now given we literally can't lynch before events are over

Like thinking the game would be serious in what amounts to a half week of pregame is so weird to me

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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:03 pm

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I have no opinion.

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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:05 pm

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I think bitmap is pretty different here from TvA but not inherently different in a way that makes him town

He's certainly less chatty if nothing else

I'd say closer to that one waifu game where he kinda just lurked out most of day 1

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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:07 pm

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In post 1726, The Searchers wrote:
In post 1548, Blake X Yang wrote:Pink Ball's scumread is ridiculous, but I don't believe it's necessarily scum indicative.

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I actually disagree on the first part. I think it has somewhat valid logic behind it. Disaster Artists getting super worked up over this kinda reads scum to me. Like he doesn't want to get caught for something he views as not-AI. If that makes sense. This has been a decently reliable tell for me in the past. is pretty close to what I'm thinking about the slot.
This is functionally incorrect. I've seen John Cena have similar reactions in the past as town. He understands when a push is not necessarily good for the game, even if he otherwise would be looking to gun them down in the street.

It's also very possible he isn't as convinced on Insomnia being scum as he let on. He tends to not push relentlessly on slots that he isn't absolutely sure are scum.

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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:09 pm

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In post 1733, The Searchers wrote:
In post 1654, Blake X Yang wrote:This engagement was rather enlightening, thank you.

Disaster Artists, Black Hole Deflection, and Cappy are all confident townreads at this point.

Latias and Latios is no longer a townread.
Despair Night can go either way. I don't believe Insomnia's contributions to this engagement were particularly town or scum indicative.

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What made you downgrade your Latias & Latios read?
I paid special attention to those who commented on the 1v1. Latias and Latios had the least town perspective.

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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:11 pm

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Krazy town reads me.

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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:14 pm

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In post 1839, Disaster Artists wrote:I think bitmap is pretty different here from TvA but not inherently different in a way that makes him town

He's certainly less chatty if nothing else

I'd say closer to that one waifu game where he kinda just lurked out most of day 1

-JC
He definitely gives off the same impression.

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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:15 pm

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I hope it’s blatantly obvious how town I am.

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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:16 pm

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I’m stereotypical inactive town role on a first time hydra flavor.

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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:17 pm

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It doesn't matter. I'd be surprised if you weren't dead before day two.

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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:18 pm

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Is there like a thing that states what time the event /in’s start?

Because that’s just gonna reward players for being here essentially randomly, and while I had the 1, that was literally the only time I was active, and I still had to rush to try and get it.

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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:18 pm

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I actually did read Blake's wall, and I've learnt that I have a hard time following people. I apparently have an unconventional way of reading people, and not seeing that template being applied to reading Farkran, I'm inclined to call out half those points as absolute WIFOM. The timing of pushes, him doing something in order to...<cite a scum action that could just as easily be confused for a town>

I respect you as a player Blake, I will analyse Fark with deeper thought.

Any other scum reads?

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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:18 pm

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In post 1846, Blake X Yang wrote:It doesn't matter. I'd be surprised if you weren't dead before day two.

-Blake

Fair, someone’s bound to kill me.

I’m upgradeable into a tracker.
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