On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Despair Night]

Nvm tone reading girls is like holding an idiot banner on your forehead

~som

[Blake X Yang]

Nvm tone reading girls is like holding an idiot banner on your forehead

~som

Or you just don't understand girls.

-Blake

[egospray]

Some of the stuff out of our hood looks like a Deviantart FanFic. It's great.

-gb

[Disaster Artists]

I mean I already said I'm going to shoot you night 2, I don't really see why you feel the need to beg. You're clearly trying to frustrate me and I've informed you that it's definitely working

-JC

[Feminist Blocc]

I wanna town read Ausuka based on tone although her loaded questions make me feel like an agenda is present, but who cares in a 34er, after 70% of the heads get culled I can finally dip my toes into the water.

Krazy I am begging you to shoot me, please! Please do it.

~som

what loaded questions? i have a bad habit of using question marks when i'm not really asking a question, is that what you're referring to or am i doing something else?

Nvm tone reading girls is like holding an idiot banner on your forehead

~som

Or you just don't understand girls.

-Blake

[egospray]

i'd appreciate expanding on this?

I can't remember what exact post it was, but Searcher was making a big deal out of stuff like discussing events and stuff.

-gb

[Despair Night]

Nvm tone reading girls is like holding an idiot banner on your forehead

~som

Or you just don't understand girls.

-Blake

Who does?

[egospray]

That Flavortown post is town b/c I feel scum would be more inclined to tryhard the currency stuff to use it to their advantage. Also I just don't really want to deal with it myself and I can see another town feeling the same way.

SC

Something like this. Why wouldn't town want to maximize currency? What? I don't understand why Scum would be the only ones to do this.

I don't think that was the exact post, but it's something that pinged my read on them.

-gb

[Despair Night]

I mean I already said I'm going to shoot you night 2, I don't really see why you feel the need to beg. You're clearly trying to frustrate me and I've informed you that it's definitely working

-JC

Great i can just shitpost then

[Despair Night]

Ego you have a gun with 3 bullets, who do you shoot and why

[egospray]

1. I'd NaeNae Searchers
Reasons for Scumreading stated. I think they're opportunistic in many ways
2. I'd Yeet NL
Lurker slot, sorry but you have an insanely low amount of posts for how far in this game is. It feels incredibly unfair lynch people who's put effort into sorting when slots like this can squeeze by.
3. I'd Kobe Foxy
Lurkslot, but less than NL So weakest shot.

I'm viewing this question like I have 3 vig shots, and I think vigging slots that are just plain unreadable is fair.

-gb

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

DEAR MODS

I'd like to attract your attention and ask for a VC

I love you too alisae <3

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

-Farkran, sigh

[Spiffybringer]

I would just like to say that Ircher is the most transparently town head (not hydra, HEAD) in this game and any votes for The Searchers will not be tolerated!!!

egospray I am not caught up yet so you might have said this recently but what is your opinion on Smol Might?

~Spiffy

[Blake X Yang]

Nvm tone reading girls is like holding an idiot banner on your forehead

~som

Or you just don't understand girls.

-Blake

Who does?

Gentlemen do.

-Blake

[Spiffybringer]

I would just like to say that Ircher is the most transparently town head (not hydra, HEAD) in this game and any votes for The Searchers will not be tolerated!!!

I realize this may be misconstrued; I am also hard town reading the SirCakez head too based entirely on his reaction to me

I just find Ircher to be really obviously town so the SirCakez read barely even comes in to play

~Spiffy

[Spiffybringer]

Smol Might hydra hasn't posted in over 48 hours so is due for a prod I think?

I don't remember the heads off the top of my head but if any head has joined an event within that time it is a scum claim and they should be lynched.

If not I still probably want them lynched over anyone else

~Spiffy

[Disaster Artists]

Mikoto and Kuroko

Spoiler:

This is a kinda technical slot since DRK early on liked Farkran's confidence (I did not) and this was actually one of our first points of dissonance in the PT. I don't like talking about hydra dissonance in thread because DRK's reads and my own are constantly evolving, she's been happy to let me handle the main thread, and insofar as I felt compelled at times to push this slot I don't think either of us sees a point in talking about the other head having doubts.

As the game went on we have each been bugged by certain things.
DRK noticed posts like this:

Pedit: if chemist is scum in the only game where i townread his slot i'm going to chew my desktop

insofar as this seems in DRK's words "overprocessed for a non-logical statement"

Assuming the post restriction is real, i think hectic is efforting to convey a lot of content to the thread, i wouldn't expect to see that if he was scum. He also looks very similar to how he played the cult game hosted by kerset. These are strong town points from his slot, it's the read i'm most confident on atm. I could see a null read on hectic from you, but a scumread seems really out of place compared to our undertale experience, unless you think he is lying about his post restriction. We could explore that world in d2, given that he specifically said "for this day phase".

-Farkran

And it seems here like Fark

wants

to townread Hectic more than necessarily makes sense at this point

Conversely, DRK gave 818 townpoints but she feels uncomfortable with reads lists like 819

She thought 891 was weird for a scum POV but I think it's just... weird. Who would not like these event prizes? They're like super strong

DRK also liked 1002

So there's I think room to debate on this hydra. That being said there's a lot to dislike.

Guess I need to obv-town to oblivion this game.

I'm the obv-town head.

I actually began to really have problems with this slot more due to Bitmap, who is doing very little overall and was posting stuff like this without really doing anything townie either at the time or since

I will still consider Alyssa, Taly and Krazy to be my friends when this game is over, regardless of our alignments. Games are but a short parenthesis in our lives, and i respect competitiveness when i see it

This isn't really AI but thanks bitmap, I guess I didn't realize you liked me given I thought you smack talked my play a few times in TvA but maybe I'm misremembering. You were scum there so maybe it was meaningless.

Yeah, been talking to my other head in discord DMs.

I think I'm okay with DA or egospray as the lynches for today.

-Mikoto

Anyway Mikoto pushing me as scum with 0 explanation is at least basically the same as TvA so it's not like I'd townread that head for the push

Also not to scumread off the "let's be nice" post but if Bitmap does consider me a friend, why is he making 0 attempt to be right on my alignment this game? Mikoto townreads Blake, Blake is certain I'm town, but Mikoto (Bitmap) is okay with me as the lynch because of Farkran's read? I mean it's really jarring that those are like the only three reads from that head.

Particularly when Mikoto's progression on me is from:

page 7-8 I like Disaster Artists for pushing sorta

So Mikoto goes from having me as town, to emphasizing me as a friend, to saying I'm a top 2 lynch with 0 attempts from his head to sort me? Okay... like it could be town but that's really fucking weird and it's certainly not townie

I know that "oh but DRK isn't even in the main thread" and it can make sense for one head of a hydra to be dominant, but I mean given that DRK had stopped playing mafia and I basically forcibly dragged her back for this game I don't think it surprised anyone that knew her that she wasn't really going to be very present in thread.

As for Farkran's head, I kinda was not in love with cognitive-load indicative posts like 237; and it coming in response to demanding I expand on a nullread was like... also bad.

Like not everyone's gonna agree with your reads. When someone says "I don't see it" but disagrees with your scumread but that they kinda have the slot as null, demanding they explain their null/town read is like... so pointless as to be scummy.

I could talk about disaster artists though. He's one of the slots that has been shading me since the very early game but has also been dodging questions - doesn't seem to be particularly interested into engaging with me to sort my slot.

Given they'd had me as town for most of the game, this just feels more like scum that has recognized they're not pocketing me than town that is reevaluating to be honest. I know most people don't see their own questions as dumb or pointless, but accusing me of "dodging" questions for not expanding at length on ego being null/town is frankly scummy.

Remember, he thinks that I was dodging a question because I didn't respond to this:

They're in the lower townpool but only have their feet in the water and haven't dived in yet

-JC

Why are they in the lower townpool? Is it a gutread, or did any particular instance of what they have done so far granted them townpoints that i didn't notice?

-Farkran

because "null" does not mean "scum" before page 10.

VOTE: Disaster Artists

VOTE: Disaster Artist

In the meanwhile, there is a good wagon forming on a scumread of mine, so

VOTE: Disaster Artist

-Farkran

Then we have "a good wagon forming"

Okay, why was FLAVORTOWN part of a "good wagon"?

And why am I now a "scumread"? You have me as town, you reread and because I didn't dignify 187 with an answer I'm now "scum"?

A point repeated here:

this is a good time to consolidate the wagon again Disaster Artists. The wagon is good and Despair Artists is likely scum.

So at this point, I have a hard time buying any part of Farkran's push here. This feels more like lowkey pocketing people pushing a mislynch an a very wolfy attempt to control the gamestate.

Remember, that in this game scum needs to play pretty wolfy because there's like 2-3 confirmed town vig power already. Scum cannot win doing nothing this game, which is why it is reasonable for Blake to be concerned with this slot and why Farkran going from "leantown" on my slot to grossly hyperconfident in the wagon on me is quite scummy.

Besides, blake, i have been trying to engage with you AND yang long before now, yet you decide to answer me only to defend DA on a read that, as town, you cannot be sure about? No thanks

This is awful posting

NOT TODAY
Equitable Androids (Gobbledygook and Titus)
Despair Night (JunkoChan and insomnia)
Flavortown (Dr Easy Bake and Flavor Leaf)
Imperium (Nachomamma8 and Tammy)
Feminist Blocc (Datisi and Ausuka)
Smol Might (Eragon and Shadowlesscloud)
Unapologetically Foxy (Pine and xofelf)
Spiffybringer (Spiffeh and Firebringer)

LYNCHABLE TODAY
Egospray (bugspray and GeorgeBailey)
The Searchers (SirCakez and Ircher)
Blake x Yang (Alyssa the Lamb and Taly)
NL (GuyInFreezer and MariaR)
Disaster Artists (John Cena and DeathRowKitty)

This is just a really wolfy readslist. Blake is really clearly town, NL is a likely mislynch, I'm town, and I'm frankly skeptical that Ego/Searchers is 2 scum.

So at this point, while there's still the risk that Farkran is town and just has really bad reads, I have to feel like Farkran is playing to scum wincon.

Additionally the soft-distancing "Not Today" is on a bunch of slots that I think are a mix of obvious town or slots that are much more interesting to think about so this whole list just looks awful to me.

So, I'm faced with two scenarios:
-Farkran is having an awful game, is up my ass as town because I didn't respond to a dumb question 70 pages ago and because insomnia started trolling me and I said I was going to shoot him
OR
-Farkran is a wolf and is just wolfing

But then I see shit like this:

VOTE: Disaster artists

And this is just an awful vote for so many reasons

First of all, it's page 80 so it's clear Fark is not like... paying attention to the actual gamestate or what's going on

Second the only reason they're revoting here is because

Ircher approved this so

VOTE: disaster artists

SC

of this vote.

So while there's a world where yes, Farkran is trying to consolidate for votelogic, uhhh, he does this in the middle of a readslist where I haven't indicated I think he's town. So why the fuck does he as *town* double down on the push now rather than *after* he sees what I have to say about him? This is just... really not townie at all.

This is also following from this:

DA is still a good lynch but all his reads are pretty much the opposite of mine and i really don't know where they could possibly come from. Consider me still on DA if interest shifts.

Which is just more awful posting. Like, I drop some readslists that are very, very different than his, and he doesn't engage me at all, instead he's like, oh shit time to vote because one of his top 5 scum voted me?

Like the problem is 1955 *would* be townie if Farkran actually reevaluated. Instead he just sets himself up to wagon hop anything that isn't himself.

So yeah, basically either Farkran is playing to scum wincon, or is actually scum as far as I can tell right now. Either way he's a great day 1 lynch.

Anyway I still need to collect my thoughts on Titus slot, but this got long enough I'm gonna go ahead and post it now and maybe collect my thoughts some more.

-JC

[Spiffybringer]

More Smol Might votes pls

~Spiffy

Im actually interested in this topic

theres been more the one reads list where we are considered town reads or liht town reads but I havent seen a single person explain why they are town reading us or refuting the "weakest" iso in the game that you claimed we had

This is probably one of the scummiest posts itg? Their only real game related posts are ones like this and them discussing Hectic's post restriction. There's not even one attempt to read anyone in their ISO

And I feel like they came out of the woodwork when they were a leading wagon and basically disappeared since focus has gone elsewhere (I'd have to check the timeline on this tho)

Still gonna reread, but with the absence of any other real scum reads on my end this needs to die today everyone please condense!

VOTE: Smol Might

~Spiffy

[Spiffybringer]

Like before doing anything else after reading this post, go ISO Smol Might and ask yourself how any of their posts come from town and not flailing scum not really sure how to get a footing in the game

~Spiffy

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Oh, i forgot. 1995 was mine (Farkran).

I forgot to sign and didn't want to waste another of page 80's posts with just a signature. I tried to be nice but then i forgot to claim the post as my own once we turned to page 81. Bitmap is busy these days, so he's pretty much in charge of reading the ISOs that i tell him are interesting. It's unfortunate that he didn't want to commit being the obvtown head.

I'll tackle the rest of DA post in the next one

-Farkran

[Spiffybringer]

Okay that's filled

SirCakez
Datisi
GeorgeBailey
ShadowlessCloud
Insomnia
Alyssa The Lamb

ShadowlessCloud joined an event while allowing their hydra to go into prod range, a scum claim has been detected

Please commence turbolynching

~Spiffy

[The Searchers]

This read is terrible.
"oh he's different from his town meta, he weirdly backpedaled on a read, his hydra partner is absent from the game, but I mindmelded on an early read so they're probably just town!!!"
So incoherent.

i don't think this is fair? like, he said "spiffy's posting is mostly fine and this slot should probably just be town" so it's not really just the mindmeld, he just likes Spiffeh's posting in general. It also seems like a stretch to list the hydra partner being a factor in the read when he explicitly stated "that doesn't make him scum." Idk I feel like this read on it just lacks nuance in general?

I feel they listed a lot of specific reasons to not like Spiff and only one specific thing + some vagaries about Spiff town. It just doesn't add up for me.

DA is flailing

SC

Ok I think it's possible I'm tunneling at this point but like... I *really* don't see how DA is flailing here

I feel like their attack on me was just trying to widen the net of possible lynches. It's becoming clear they are one of the few viable lynches today as more people are SRing them than not. Something like M/K or Blake x Yang is not happening today.

That Flavortown post is town b/c I feel scum would be more inclined to tryhard the currency stuff to use it to their advantage. Also I just don't really want to deal with it myself and I can see another town feeling the same way.

SC

Something like this. Why wouldn't town want to maximize currency? What? I don't understand why Scum would be the only ones to do this.

I don't think that was the exact post, but it's something that pinged my read on them.

-gb

I talked about this earlier but basically with less scum and thus less roles they are more in need of night power than town. Someone else said something similar to my thought process; I forget who as it was a while ago.

I have to agree with Spiff that 929 is awful

SC

[Blake X Yang]

fuck I missed page 80

hopefully you still love me

cappy

-yang

[Equitable Androids]

Okay that's filled

SirCakez
Datisi
GeorgeBailey
ShadowlessCloud
Insomnia
Alyssa The Lamb

ShadowlessCloud joined an event while allowing their hydra to go into prod range, a scum claim has been detected

Please commence turbolynching

~Spiffy

That I can get behind.

VOTE: Smol might

~Titus