Why are you deferring to Battle Mage instead of answering the question?In post 773, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Beats me, why don't you ask him yourself?In post 771, Zantetsu wrote:How do you explain his 180 on you then?
That doesn't make the game simple though. There's a lot more game left after D2.Because that means we lynch you, because you are scum.In post 772, Zantetsu wrote:How so?In post 767, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If he is town then the game should be rather simple though.
Then why did you suggest it? It's a bit late to be throwing weak shade at me now! I've got ya!In post 769, Zantetsu wrote:Well like I said it seems like an impossible choiceIn post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Who do you think it is then, assuming this is the case?In post 764, Zantetsu wrote:If Una or Luck is scum then he could be trying to protect his scum buddy by diverting from that issue.
Are you pushing the burden of proof on me? You're the one that's under suspicion right now, not me.In post 775, Zantetsu wrote:Why are you deferring to Battle Mage instead of answering the question?
True, why don't you make things simple and tell us your scum teammates then, so we can wrap things up early?In post 775, Zantetsu wrote:That doesn't make the game simple though. There's a lot more game left after D2.
This doesn't answer the question though. I've been in games where the mod answered rules questions in thread because it's very helpful to all involved. Can you do that please?In post 745, Firebringer wrote:In post 735, Zantetsu wrote:Which if true would mod-confirm Una's role as town and if false would mod-confirm that either Una is lying or Luca/72 are lying, with the greater likelihood being Una lying.
@Mod: can you please confirm that if Una were town simple neopolitan and if Luca were in a neighborhood, then Una would have gotten a "No Result" result on an investigation of Luca?
Color for mod attention since I am not sure the mod actually reads this game.I actually do read this game. Anyone who has a question of their role, should pm me.
Combine this...In post 731, Zantetsu wrote:But then the simple modifier would prevent this and give "No Result", since that's what the simple modifier does -- give the same result as a roleblocked action if the target is not vanilla town.
..with this.In post 731, Zantetsu wrote:On the other hand ... why would Una claim a guilty on Luca just because he got the result "Luca is not vanilla town" when there is the obvious other possibility that Luca is town with a role?
I said "somewhat" clarified, with great respect to your earlier efforts.In post 758, Zantetsu wrote:Nothing has been clarified. But nice job trying to pick your moment for this bs claim.In post 740, Battle Mage wrote:Ok well with that somewhat clarified, and in the spirit of the day, I'm claiming as well
What a convenient role for you to claim, given that it suddenly has the same effect as a cop given the fact that a neighborhood was just revealed.[/quote]I'm a 'PT Cop', which means I can investigate people and find out if they are in private threads (which presumably is because we have neighbours and scum).
Well that was easy!In post 758, Zantetsu wrote:This is complete bs. I could not possibly have come up positive in an investigation by a PT Cop. I am not in any private threads.Last night I investigated Zantetsu and he came up positive. Given the claims and his reaction seems pretty unlikely he is a neighbour/mason, so he must be scum.
I do think it's a valid question, and in a game where all scum players are still alive, I think the idea of only the person who's under the most suspicion being the only one to have to answer questions is silly. Town should be trying to find all scum simultaneously.In post 777, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you pushing the burden of proof on me? You're the one that's under suspicion right now, not me.In post 775, Zantetsu wrote:Why are you deferring to Battle Mage instead of answering the question?
+In post 732, Zantetsu wrote:But then it doesn't seem possible that town!Una actually is simple neopolitan who got a
Seems like a potential PT-slip from scum.In post 733, Zantetsu wrote:Whoops ignore the last sentence of my last post, it was some garbage that I accidentally left in when writing my post.
Because 'impossible' doesn't literally mean 'impossible' in this situation obviously. It just means very unlikely. I was asked to give possible reasons for why scum!you would make this fake claim, and I did. Are you saying I should not have answered the question?In post 776, Battle Mage wrote:Then why did you suggest it? It's a bit late to be throwing weak shade at me now! I've got ya!In post 769, Zantetsu wrote:Well like I said it seems like an impossible choiceIn post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Who do you think it is then, assuming this is the case?In post 764, Zantetsu wrote:If Una or Luck is scum then he could be trying to protect his scum buddy by diverting from that issue.
This is pathetic...In post 759, Zantetsu wrote:Jesus Norwegian don't you see how Battle Mage is trying to pocket you here?
He goes from "Now that this is somewhat clarified" in justifying this bs claim to "Can someone explain the Mod error thing to me? Like, if the Mod made an error, does that mean Una is confirmed town? and Luca-72offsuit confirmed neighbours?". Clearly he is just throwing out whatever sentiment he thinks will justify his actions.
I dunno, maybe he is just reaction testing but ... jesus.This game.
No, I thought I had a guilty on you, and went for the play.In post 736, Luca Blight wrote:He has a hunch there was an error, but rushes forward to reveal his result anyway?
I got a VT/goon -vibe from you, thought you'd definitely not be a PR.In post 737, Luca Blight wrote:I'm also wondering why Una, as Town, would have targeted me anyway? Was he scumreading me D1?
This is a fair point - would be good to get people's thoughts on who Zant's buddies are likely to be!In post 781, Riabi wrote:I do think it's a valid question, and in a game where all scum players are still alive, I think the idea of only the person who's under the most suspicion being the only one to have to answer questions is silly. Town should be trying to find all scum simultaneously.In post 777, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you pushing the burden of proof on me? You're the one that's under suspicion right now, not me.In post 775, Zantetsu wrote:Why are you deferring to Battle Mage instead of answering the question?
In post 783, Zantetsu wrote:Because 'impossible' doesn't literally mean 'impossible' in this situation obviously. It just means very unlikely. I was asked to give possible reasons for why scum!you would make this fake claim, and I did. Are you saying I should not have answered the question?In post 776, Battle Mage wrote:Then why did you suggest it? It's a bit late to be throwing weak shade at me now! I've got ya!In post 769, Zantetsu wrote:Well like I said it seems like an impossible choiceIn post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Who do you think it is then, assuming this is the case?In post 764, Zantetsu wrote:If Una or Luck is scum then he could be trying to protect his scum buddy by diverting from that issue.
Does the question matter? I can't read Battle Mages mind. Maybe he started townreading me based on Profii's flip, maybe he reconsidered me based on his guilty on Zantetsu. Maybe he just thought i wasn't scummy after all.In post 781, Riabi wrote:I do think it's a valid question, and in a game where all scum players are still alive, I think the idea of only the person who's under the most suspicion being the only one to have to answer questions is silly. Town should be trying to find all scum simultaneously.In post 777, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you pushing the burden of proof on me? You're the one that's under suspicion right now, not me.In post 775, Zantetsu wrote:Why are you deferring to Battle Mage instead of answering the question?
In post 778, Zantetsu wrote:This doesn't answer the question though. I've been in games where the mod answered rules questions in thread because it's very helpful to all involved. Can you do that please?In post 745, Firebringer wrote:In post 735, Zantetsu wrote:Which if true would mod-confirm Una's role as town and if false would mod-confirm that either Una is lying or Luca/72 are lying, with the greater likelihood being Una lying.
@Mod: can you please confirm that if Una were town simple neopolitan and if Luca were in a neighborhood, then Una would have gotten a "No Result" result on an investigation of Luca?
Color for mod attention since I am not sure the mod actually reads this game.I actually do read this game. Anyone who has a question of their role, should pm me.
As much as this saddens me to say, assuming Una's weird role actually does confirm Luca being scum. It seems a Luca/Zantetsu scum team might be possible. Although i'd definitely want to lynch Zantetsu first, i believe BM's claim more than Una's right now.In post 788, Battle Mage wrote:This is a fair point - would be good to get people's thoughts on who Zant's buddies are likely to be!
A Luca-Zant scumteam would be pretty surprising, given how blatantly Zant buddied him on Day 1. (yes I finally got round to that re-read!)In post 791, NorwegianboyEE wrote:As much as this saddens me to say, assuming Una's weird role actually does confirm Luca being scum. It seems a Luca/Zantetsu scum team might be possible. Although i'd definitely want to lynch Zantetsu first, i believe BM's claim more than Una's right now.In post 788, Battle Mage wrote:This is a fair point - would be good to get people's thoughts on who Zant's buddies are likely to be!
He could still be town. If Luca flips mafia neighbor, then he is most definitely town. It doesn't make much sense for there to be 2 scums in 1 neighborhood.In post 792, Battle Mage wrote:And where does that leave 72offsuit?
MEANING THAT I SHOULD ONLY GET THIS RESULT FROM A VANILLA-MAFIA, RIGHT?!?Simple is a role modifier that modifies the way in which an active action is used; it causes the action to fail, as though it were roleblocked, when used against a player who is not vanilla. In other words, only Vanilla Townies and Goons of the various anti-town factions will be affected by a Simple action; other players are too complex to be vulnerable.
Screw the guilty. Just forget about your role. Can't you see that Zantetsu!scum implicates Luca!scum? No power needed for that.In post 798, UnaBombaH wrote:If anyone still thinks I'm somehow bullshitting with a situation and claim this bold, go ahead.
I really am not.
So based on the result alone, I apparently do not have a guilty on Luca after all.
I guess.