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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:58 am

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Well...wall posting debates between two people is generally mistaken for TvT arguments. People don't really want to read them and for some reason, arguing for a long time is a town indicator for most.

You're essentially asking me to explain why things that be are...things that just be.

I don't even know if you're asking me "Does this apply for S/S"? It most certainly does, yes, but this is not what looks to be a battle between S/S?

What I look for is how the battle ends, rather than the conversation going on it. For a S/S scenario, there would be small posts, concentrated hatred (probably) and then immediate deflection onto someone else, by both parts.

I don't see that here, nor an agenda that's being chased by any of you.

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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:01 am

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here's what my mental map of a scum / scum fabricated theatre looks like

"you're scum for x,y,z"

"ok you know what, suck it, vote : ..."

"vote:..."

arguing

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awkward period where nobody attacks each other and then focusing on other slots while keeping their votes where they are.

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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:01 am

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the arguing takes precisely between 10 and 15 posts in total.

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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:05 am

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I meant from Farkran's side, sorry.

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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:08 am

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Idgi, you're asking if Farkran wall posting makes him town?

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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:21 am

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In post 2243, Blake X Yang wrote:
In post 2236, Despair Night wrote:
In post 2230, Blake X Yang wrote:Thank you for the input, insomnia.

-Blake
If you're town, this will make you want to push elsewhere because you actually believe in your read but just
understood wall posting against them will make town think it's TVT.


And it stops this charade.

It's great input.

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I'm curious, insomnia.

Does this also apply in the opposite direction and why?

-Blake
No.

I'm asking if this same mindset functions from Farkran's side.

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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:35 am

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I don’t like looking at my own avatar.

Baker and I lived in the city he’s from even, he just thinks he’s unironically hilarious.
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:28 am

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@Blake and Yang,

I can case Spiffeh. I still prefer Smol because the strength of scum Spiffy hydra depends a little bit on that.

First, Spiffeh's introduction with me. He expects me to want to work with him. He likes my response to him initially. I'm feeling him out like T v A. In T v A, I took a much more laid back approach because I knew somehow the game should be rigged against me and I had medical issues. Here, I take the sameish approach although my medical shit has been worse.

If Spiffeh had doubted me from the outset, I'd be ok with this. I expected some suspicion due to my lack of posting/comprehending. However, Spiffeh's doubt came right after I voted Smol night on a dime. To me, that reads like Spiffeh wanted to distance from Smol and not actually have to worry about a Smol lynch.

Firebringer has also been completely missing. When Fire's town, he tends to have a jovial personality similar to Hectic. Now it feels like Fire's avoiding the thread because they drew scum.

That's my case on Spiffeh. It's not wholly dependent on Smol!scum, as Spiffeh could have just been looking to coast. However, the world makes a lot more sense with Smol scum.

I do believe Spiffeh's comments on Smol sniping an event while not even trying to post content are highly scum indicative.

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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:38 am

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I understand you're very likely addressing my other head, Titus, but I have my own thoughts related to that post and I will say them once I have an answer from Insomnia.

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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:39 am

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I will say this, though.

The fact that I can confidently call popsofctown town tells me that I'm either unusually well tuned into the game or catastrophically wrong.

I have an idea for how to test this.

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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:42 am

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Hello friends, and Happy Easter to those of you to whom it might be relevant. I’m spending the day with my parents - they’ve continued to help with childcare, so we might as well celebrate together too. During the lulls today, I’ll try to figure out enough of what’s going on to put down a vote this evening, and I will fully engage with the thread starting tomorrow.

Stay healthy!
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:42 am

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Ohhhhhhhh

Probably.

But that doesn’t mean he necessarily fabricated it.

I was moreso saying that if you truly are a town, you have to realise that US people from the sidelines will take it as a TvT argument.
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:44 am

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In post 2258, Blake X Yang wrote:I understand you're very likely addressing my other head, Titus, but I have my own thoughts related to that post and I will say them once I have an answer from Insomnia.

-Blake
Fine by me. I am just looking to try my best to get back in. Your hydra is one slot. If you used it to 180 everything your other head did, that would be anti-town.

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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:47 am

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I do feel you’re trying to sort me by tying me somehow to Farkran

So I am one step ahead, Miss Blake.

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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:51 am

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So you're telling me that I can't gain any conclusions from this. Is this correct?

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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:54 am

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You will draw a conclusion from this, but it will be the wrong one. A person can do anything, when they put their mind to it.

It is most certainly an incredible design and hardwiring of our brains, only we could ever possibly do this. Extract from the unextractable.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:55 am

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Whatever you say, insomnia.

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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:56 am

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You haven’t gained anything, have you?
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:56 am

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VOTE: Smol Night

I will only support a lynch on this slot today.

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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:56 am

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In post 2267, Despair Night wrote:You haven’t gained anything, have you?
That's the question, isn't it?

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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:58 am

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Of course you haven’t. It’s alright to admit defeat, from time to time.
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:02 am

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Ms Despair, have you caught on something? Your attitude seems a bit different and it might make sense if you have.

Do you still feel confident on your read of egospray? You asked him a question and he answered, what's your conclusion?

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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:02 am

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Is this you underestimating me, or you believing you have me figured out?

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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 2169, Latias and Latios wrote: Lurking Flavor honestly is >rand scum for him
-Latios
Is it? Flavor tends to claim that if he was scum, very few if anyone would suspect him. I don't think lurking coincides with that.
In post 2176, Latias and Latios wrote: I'm rather opposed to Smol Might btw

-Latios
Why? What do you like in their ISO?
In post 2215, Black Hole Defection wrote:
In post 2214, Blake X Yang wrote:To be clear, there is exactly one person on the entire site that I would expect to be able to read me correctly in every game, especially at this point in time. They are also in this game.

To my knowledge, very few to no other players have provably shown they can differentiate my towngame from my scumgame accurately to a high level.

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I had the same question.
Mikoto and Kuroko in post 2231 wrote: Datisi (Feminist Bloc) has been participating in all events except two, which is fairly indicative of him paying attention to this game in spite of a 27 posts ISO where they mostly focus on The Searchers as their only scumread, with little else.
While you aren't exactly wrong about the evidence, have you considered the fact Datisi may not really be interested in playing this mafia game. That is, Feminist Blocc has explained that Datisi joined because her expectations of this game were different from reality.
In post 2234, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:
In post 2233, Feminist Blocc wrote:Yo Fark, you missed the part where I said that I specifically signed up for minigames because I was told this wouldn't be an Actual Mafia Game?

-D
No, in fact i explicitly quoted the post. You do not seem disingaged enough as to skip the game because you produced one read - why only that read?

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In post 2234, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:
In post 2233, Feminist Blocc wrote:Yo Fark, you missed the part where I said that I specifically signed up for minigames because I was told this wouldn't be an Actual Mafia Game?

-D
No, in fact i explicitly quoted the post. You do not seem disingaged enough as to skip the game because you produced one read - why only that read?

-Farkran
And yet, i make a post against them and they respond immediately.

-Farkran[/quote]
That does look a bit like a beetlejuice, but even if Datisi isn't actively playing the game, she could still be skimming the current page or so. Besides, she has to do that around the event times.
In post 2257, Equitable Androids wrote:Firebringer has also been completely missing. When Fire's town, he tends to have a jovial personality similar to Hectic. Now it feels like Fire's avoiding the thread because they drew scum.
I think this is what worries me the most about that slot right now.
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 2271, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:Ms Despair, have you caught on something? Your attitude seems a bit different and it might make sense if you have.

Do you still feel confident on your read of egospray? You asked him a question and he answered, what's your conclusion?

-Farkran
No.

No.

I think switching to Foxy will be unfair because apparently Pine is going to play. Admittedly, he did say numerous times he was going to catch up on things and never went by his word.

I have no scum reads.
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