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[Hectic]

davesaz: Who is your favourite philosopher from history? You have philosopher-indicative tells.

I'm actually more an inventor / polymath type, but The Thinker embraces the general idea of thinking twice (or more) and acting once. So I don't really have a favorite philosopher per se. Da Vinci from the renaissance era, Edison from the modern.

Very nice. Dave locktown for this. My favourite modern inventor is Tim Berners-Lee.

Hectic do you sense that the alo vs wake debate will conclude in some alignment indicative clues (those 2 players or otherwise)

It seems like much ado about nothing which is ultimately a distraction

Do you mean Alo vs Bobman? If so; yes. I can see scum!Aloratom dancing around Bobman's serious question of why he was asking him that that, and what he was hoping to learn from it, and responding with a joke in 231.

Also, I kinda want to have more of Aloratom's ISO be talking about the Bobman.

[AaronFrost]

I didn't realize bob was here. Definite scum.

VOTE: bob

Could you explain that confidence here?

Let me double check.

@bob -- are you scum this game?

@bob -- Before I definitively report back to Wake, can you answer this for me?

At first I thought you were joking with this line of questioning but this comes off like you're being serious about it.

How does this help you determine bob's alignment?

Determining

Bob's

alignment wasn't the initial goal, but when Bob seemingly disregarded my 179, I was compelled to follow up. Now that Bob's answered that, I can go back to what I was doing.

And how did you expect him to answer 179? Were you trying to get a reaction out of him?

[AaronFrost]

Hmmm I'm struggling to read people for the most part here. Not really finding any SRs so far other than that early Holden ping which is odd for me.

Honestly, I'm kinda feeling the same way rn. I have no real scum reads and a few weak town leans on cakez, dave and hectic.

[AaronFrost]

Bob told me to get a life. I thought that was funny. And appropriate.

As far as my scum meta goes, he may be right. I don't know.

There's not much of a sample to work with there.

Shouldn't you of all people know your own meta?

[Wake1]

I don't recall getting an answer from Aloratom.

VOTE: Aloratom

What makes you think Alo not answering the question is a scum move?

I don't know whether it makes Hectic town or scum that he ignored my comment about him not inspiring confidence.

Evading a question, to me, is not Townish whatsoever.

It's Scummy behavior.

[Wake1]

I don't recall getting an answer from Aloratom.

VOTE: Aloratom

@Wake -- Bob told me to stuff it. This decreases my confidence level significantly.

Is it that you missed this or is it that you didn't like what you saw?

That's not an answer. That's an evasion.

Again, WHY are you so confident about his alignment?

Answer me.

[Wake1]

How is he definite Scum?

[profii]

Hectic... nah, I meant alo and wake... see above

[Hectic]

Hectic... nah, I meant alo and wake... see above

Oh. Absolutely not lol. I'd step in but I was told off earlier for answering a question not directed at me. Do you think Wake's persistence is genuine?

[Hectic]

I can never tell with Wake. I've had my fair share of scumreading him because of his aggressive/overconfident style he adopts the longer the game goes on. You question whether he actually believes the stuff he's saying at times, a lot due to the way he says it. Though, in this case actually, I think the misunderstanding on his part is completely NAI.

[Hectic]

[bob3141]

davesaz: Who is your favourite philosopher from history? You have philosopher-indicative tells.

I'm actually more an inventor / polymath type, but The Thinker embraces the general idea of thinking twice (or more) and acting once. So I don't really have a favorite philosopher per se. Da Vinci from the renaissance era, Edison from the modern.

Very nice. Dave locktown for this. My favourite modern inventor is Tim Berners-Lee.

Hectic do you sense that the alo vs wake debate will conclude in some alignment indicative clues (those 2 players or otherwise)

It seems like much ado about nothing which is ultimately a distraction

Do you mean Alo vs Bobman? If so; yes. I can see scum!Aloratom dancing around Bobman's serious question of why he was asking him that that, and what he was hoping to learn from it, and responding with a joke in 231.

Also, I kinda want to have more of Aloratom's ISO be talking about the Bobman.

I cant help but wonder why you think there was even a alort vs bob. Based on the interaction we had you could say that about anyone even askign anything of anyone in this game

Seems to me that you trying to make something out of nothing

[Morning Tweet]

I don't recall getting an answer from Aloratom.

VOTE: Aloratom

What makes you think Alo not answering the question is a scum move?

I don't know whether it makes Hectic town or scum that he ignored my comment about him not inspiring confidence.

Evading a question, to me, is not Townish whatsoever.

It's Scummy behavior.

Spoiler: Comment in question

Hectic's recent posts are not inspiring confidence.

It was not so much a question, as just a call to attention that there may be something off about Hectic's posting. Still, do you think it is alignment-indicative to ignore a remark like this?

[Morning Tweet]

at first galnce i woudl say alorat seems different from his scum game. There he was say x and y was scum without any reason.

Aloratom:

What are your thoughts on Bobman's 223 and 228?

Bob told me to get a life. I thought that was funny. And appropriate. As far as my scum meta goes, he may be right. I don't know. There's not much of a sample to work with there.

I kinda like how Alo doesn't comment on own scum meta. At the very least, I'm glad he doesn't make any claims about his play this game being different from how he plays scum.

[Hectic]

I cant help but wonder why you think there was even a alort vs bob. Based on the interaction we had you could say that about anyone even askign anything of anyone in this game

Seems to me that you trying to make something out of nothing

Damn, Bob. You've foiled my plan of pitting you and Aloratom off against each other!

No, but I just assumed Bobman vs Aloratom was referring to your two's interactions. Vs is a term that is very loosely used in mafia.

[profii]

Hectic... nah, I meant alo and wake... see above

Oh. Absolutely not lol. I'd step in but I was told off earlier for answering a question not directed at me. Do you think Wake's persistence is genuine?

Not particularly

[AaronFrost]

How is he definite Scum?

I don't think Aloratom actually believes that he's 'definitely scum'

[AaronFrost]

I can never tell with Wake. I've had my fair share of scumreading him because of his aggressive/overconfident style he adopts the longer the game goes on. You question whether he actually believes the stuff he's saying at times, a lot due to the way he says it. Though, in this case actually, I think the misunderstanding on his part is completely NAI.

I think scum!Wake is a little more reserved and cautious with his approach. Aggressive Wake = town Wake.

[Gamma Emerald]

tictac:

Were you hinting at something more in 93, or just kidding around?

Aloratom:

What are your thoughts on Bobman's 223 and 228?

profii:

What's your opinion of GammaEmerald's posting so far?

GammaEmerald:

Do you think Wake coming out strong is an AI thing?

Cat Scratch Fever:

Do you own any cats? This is very important.

davesaz:

Who is your favourite philosopher from history? You have philosopher-indicative tells.

Based on Wake’s meta yes I do feel that way

[Wake1]

I can never tell with Wake. I've had my fair share of scumreading him because of his aggressive/overconfident style he adopts the longer the game goes on. You question whether he actually believes the stuff he's saying at times, a lot due to the way he says it. Though, in this case actually, I think the misunderstanding on his part is completely NAI.

Misunderstanding on

whose

part?

[Wake1]

How is he definite Scum?

I don't think Aloratom actually believes that he's 'definitely scum'

Then he should

clarify

...

...or not say that.

[Wake1]

I can never tell with Wake. I've had my fair share of scumreading him because of his aggressive/overconfident style he adopts the longer the game goes on. You question whether he actually believes the stuff he's saying at times, a lot due to the way he says it. Though, in this case actually, I think the misunderstanding on his part is completely NAI.

I think scum!Wake is a little more reserved and cautious with his approach. Aggressive Wake = town Wake.

Basically this.

It's easy to be aggressive when you don't have a clue who's who. When you know exactly who is who it's extremely difficult for me to feign ignorance or poke and prod at things (because I already have the answers).

[Morning Tweet]

did you see my question in 312, wake?

[profii]

Hectic... nah, I meant alo and wake... see above

Oh. Absolutely not lol. I'd step in but I was told off earlier for answering a question not directed at me. Do you think Wake's persistence is genuine?

Not particularly

Actually changed my mind. The first time I played with wake I found his seemingly exaggerated persistence annoying

It came from a place of town and it's happening again I think.

[Aloratom]

And how did you expect him to answer 179? Were you trying to get a reaction out of him?

I didn't know how he would respond. I figured that he would, though, and he did.