Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[Paragon]

Hmm, I'm not actually sure what's optimal here. Since you've already claimed some kind of investigative, it might be better to let you go later since we don't want scum to play/claim around you being tracker/gunsmith/rolecop etc in the event you are town. I want to see what others think.

[Something_Smart]

Eyestott should be last.

[Paragon]

Taly, Fuzzy's mislynch made me more confident in scum!NDMath, since he was the coutnerwagon and his posts didn't improve day 2 at all.

Why don't you think Something_Smart/eyestott can be both scum, given those were the two slots Blake Belladonna had in her scumpool?

[Taly]

We shouldn't vote straight away! Assuming the worst and 3 scum, it's LyLo; so we need to wary of quickhammers.

Current readslist:

Aloratom
Churros
Battle Mage
Taly
Something_Smart
eyestott

Blake Belladonna dying is slightly unexpected. Looking at her final readslist, it makes me feel better about there not being 2 scum in her town section, and slightly better about eyestott/Something_Smart being scum.
Also, you killed pops, Blake; how could you :c

HOW did you come to the conclusion that

Blake

killed

Pops

?

Do you LITERALLY have a case to outline why

Blake

NKed

Pops

?

Although, if there's a scum rolecop, she could've simply died due to being a confirmable PR (unless counterclaimed), that was checked by scum on a prior night.

Why are you covering up the NK on

Blake

THROUGH SETUP SPEC rather than game content and interactions?

This is a STRONG reach.

Can we massclaim?

Completely behind this!

Blake Belladonna has entered the hivemind. She's telling me to trust in her read of Churros, and put faith in her pool of scum. Luca Blight's been endorsing Blake's Churros read too.

Very well, friends.

What?

Aloratom

was not

Blake's

top townread by ANY margin here, but he's your highest.

So, why is he so up there? Because he followed your

NDMath

votes?

Can we massclaim?

Do you think that's a good idea? If there's any investigatives with info, they should say so, and ask for a massclaim with them going last.

Otherwise, I don't see the point of PRs outing themselves unless they're going to be lynched.

The answer is yes here.

Traitor crumbs:

I’m so excited to get back into mafia! Thanks everyone for playing with me, I don’t think I’ve met any of y’all before.
VOTE: Taly, I think you may be the exception! Do you remember me at all?

eyestott indicating he's Taly's traitor. Seems a little too risky in the event eyestott was ever lynched and flipped traitor.

Okay, that's the only one I could find actually.

P.S: I miss the tiger GiFs, Taly!

1)

Blake

didn't think I was a traitor, how am I groupscum here? You've followed her POV so much but yet not much at all.

2)

IF

EYE

is a traitor, WHY is he at the bottom of your readslist?

3)

So, I'm scum based off

eye's

post? ...You keep shelving a read on me throughout this whole game, but the first "crumbs" you throw out as a potential traitor implies I'm in a scumteam.

Why do you think there's definitively a traitor and a scumteam? Where is your read progression?

Can we massclaim?

Do you think that's a good idea? If there's any investigatives with info, they should say so, and ask for a massclaim with them going last.

Otherwise, I don't see the point of PRs outing themselves unless they're going to be lynched.

Me. I am an investigative with information.

OK, you're going last. I bar any votes at all until an entire massclaim has occurred.

Well then!

Is there a problem with you going now, or do you have reason to be last/later on?

...You literally just said that it's best for Investigatives to go last.

But

eye

claims to be an investigative role.

You ask if he has a reason to wait on claiming...

[Taly]

eyestott-Paragon must contain at least 1 scum. I cannot see this TvT in any potential universe. Fuck all of this if it's TvT.

I see TvT's described this way on a regular basis.

It took you 3 MINUTES to post this after I gave my reply. Did you spend ALL those 3 minutes reading?

If not, kindly reassess my 2073 and maybe I'll dim down my disappointment and irritation.

[Taly]

Eyestott should be last.

Eyestott

claimed investigative with information.

I want

Eyestott

to LIST THE ORDER of who claims, and everybody who doesn't follow this order, is scumclaiming.

[Something_Smart]

No. I skim walls the first time I see them.

I'll read it in full, but I doubt that any reasoning is going to make me change my mind on you being possibly wrong there.

[Something_Smart]

Eyestott claimed investigative with information.

I want Eyestott to LIST THE ORDER of who claims, and everybody who doesn't follow this order, is scumclaiming.

Probably fine?

I don't really have strong feelings about the claim order.

[Taly]

Taly, Fuzzy's mislynch made me more confident in scum!NDMath, since he was the coutnerwagon and his posts didn't improve day 2 at all.

Why don't you think Something_Smart/eyestott can be both scum, given those were the two slots Blake Belladonna had in her scumpool?

...You never entertained my

NDMath

ISO.

So, you think

S_S/eye

are scum?

S_S-Me

groupscum and

eyestott

traitor? Is that what I'm getting from your posts?

I don't disregard

eye/S_S

to both be scum.

But I don't think

S_S

is groupscum based on my thoughts in 2073, and I have reason to believe he's town. How about you reread my posts that specifically address

S_S

, right?

Or enlighten me, how the 3 of us are scum in the reality you prompted?

[Paragon]

...that's a whole lot of questions, Taly.

[Taly]

Eyestott claimed investigative with information.

I want Eyestott to LIST THE ORDER of who claims, and everybody who doesn't follow this order, is scumclaiming.

Probably fine?

I don't really have strong feelings about the claim order.

Eyestott

claimed to have information, he has the most knowledge in the game in the reality that he's town.

No. I skim walls the first time I see them.

I'll read it in full, but I doubt that any reasoning is going to make me change my mind on you being possibly wrong there.

Please stop with the handwave dismissal, it feels nothing short of a discredit, and it's disingenuous at worst.

[Taly]

...that's a whole lot of questions, Taly.

Take your time, we got 10 days.

[Taly]

Ugh, you guys give me a headache.

[Paragon]

Do you mind compiling them all into one post or something please? Editing your quote wall is very tiresome right now!

[Paragon]

Ugh, you guys give me a headache.

[Something_Smart]

Please stop with the handwave dismissal, it feels nothing short of a discredit, and it's disingenuous at worst.

What would you prefer I do?

[Paragon]

For the sake of transparency (which is the goal of this account): I really dislike these Taly posts, and I don't think his anger/frustration is genuine.

[Something_Smart]

I pretty much don't understand any of the logic laid out in that post. As a result I don't agree with its conclusions. I don't think you've provided the necessary evidence for your claims, and the burden of proof is on you to provide more. It's not disingenuous for me to not be convinced.

[Taly]

Paragon

, why didn't

Fuzzy's

mislynch at least have you reevaluate

NDMath

? You jumped onto

Blake's

vibe quickly, and gave no thought more because you weren't around during the discussion. 1143 D1 / D2 1807 - 1972

You've had a GAMELONG scumread on a town-slot, man, one that the OTHER person you've hard-pushed in this game

(Me)

- has hard-defended.

Your other vote past 600 posts into this game is

Fuzzy

, the D1 mislynch that I towncased.

HOW did you come to the conclusion that

Blake

killed

Pops

?

Do you LITERALLY have a case to outline why

Blake

NKed

Pops

?

Although, if there's a scum rolecop, she could've simply died due to being a confirmable PR (unless counterclaimed), that was checked by scum on a prior night.

Why are you covering up the NK on

Blake

THROUGH SETUP SPEC rather than game content and interactions?

This is a STRONG reach.

-

Aloratom

was not

Blake's

top townread by ANY margin here, but he's your highest.

So, why is he so up there? Because he followed your

NDMath

votes?
-

1)

Blake

didn't think I was a traitor, how am I groupscum here? You've followed her POV so much but yet not much at all.

2)

IF

EYE

is a traitor, WHY is he at the bottom of your readslist?

3)

So, I'm scum based off

eye's

post? ...You keep shelving a read on me throughout this whole game, but the first "crumbs" you throw out as a potential traitor implies I'm in a scumteam.

Why do you think there's definitively a traitor and a scumteam? Where is your read progression?

Taly, Fuzzy's mislynch made me more confident in scum!NDMath, since he was the coutnerwagon and his posts didn't improve day 2 at all.

Why don't you think Something_Smart/eyestott can be both scum, given those were the two slots Blake Belladonna had in her scumpool?

...You never entertained my

NDMath

ISO.

So, you think

S_S/eye

are scum?

S_S-Me

groupscum and

eyestott

traitor? Is that what I'm getting from your posts?

I don't disregard

eye/S_S

to both be scum.

But I don't think

S_S

is groupscum based on my thoughts in 2073, and I have reason to believe he's town. How about you reread my posts that specifically address

S_S

, right?

Or enlighten me, how the 3 of us are scum in the reality you prompted?

[Paragon]

Thank you!

[Taly]

Please stop with the handwave dismissal, it feels nothing short of a discredit, and it's disingenuous at worst.

What would you prefer I do?

You know, actually behave as if you locktown me and critically assess the post, or at least tell me why my conclusion indicates town/town within

Eye/Paragon

For the sake of transparency (which is the goal of this account): I really dislike these Taly posts, and I don't think his anger/frustration is genuine.

I HAVE ALL THE REASON FOR FRUSTRATION IF YOU READ MY POSTS.

Here you go again! The second I pushback on you, you retreat to this bullshit narrative that I'm feigning emotions and that you dislike my posts for NO elaborated reason!

You did it D1!

I pretty much don't understand any of the logic laid out in that post. As a result I don't agree with its conclusions. I don't think you've provided the necessary evidence for your claims, and the burden of proof is on you to provide more. It's not disingenuous for me to not be convinced.

So

S_S/Para

is the team? We'll see when we massclaim by

Eye's

decree.

[Taly]

I'm done talking here.

The second I open my mouth in this game I just hear:

"Your logic isn't sound"

-

"No, I don't think that's it"

or

"iS tAlY sCuM?

FUCK that entire narrative and if I get mislynched this game or if town loses then I absolve myself of guilt over ALL strategic error I've made this game.

[Taly]

Town should NEVER DISCOUNT a person's input like this, mafia is a TEAM GAME as BOTH alignments, and I'm laying my ENTIRE thought process down and it's being dismissed before it's given a PROPER REBUTTAL.

[Something_Smart]

I don't think I can possibly believe either Fuzzy or NDMath had all town on them.

Why not?

[Taly]

I don't even give a fuck if you think I'm town, IF YOU'RE TOWN, then reevaluate yourself.

PLEASE.

I need to log off for a bit. I'm getting way too riled up, but I'm not taking back a lick of what I said.

It's my truth, and anyone denying this is scumclaiming or gamethrowing.