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[Paragon]

Paragon

, why didn't

Fuzzy's

mislynch at least have you reevaluate

NDMath

? You jumped onto

Blake's

vibe quickly, and gave no thought more because you weren't around during the discussion. 1143 D1 / D2 1807 - 1972

You've had a GAMELONG scumread on a town-slot, man, one that the OTHER person you've hard-pushed in this game

(Me)

- has hard-defended.

Your other vote past 600 posts into this game is

Fuzzy

, the D1 mislynch that I towncased.

This is you telling me I've been incorrect in my scumreads thus far. Although you are correct, I cannot respond to this in any productive way, other than restating the reasons I thought NDMath was scum, and my scumlean at times on Fuzzy during day 1.

HOW did you come to the conclusion that

Blake

killed

Pops

?

Do you LITERALLY have a case to outline why

Blake

NKed

Pops

?

Although, if there's a scum rolecop, she could've simply died due to being a confirmable PR (unless counterclaimed), that was checked by scum on a prior night.

Why are you covering up the NK on

Blake

THROUGH SETUP SPEC rather than game content and interactions?

This is a STRONG reach.

-

Aloratom

was not

Blake's

top townread by ANY margin here, but he's your highest.

So, why is he so up there? Because he followed your

NDMath

votes?
-

1)

Blake

didn't think I was a traitor, how am I groupscum here? You've followed her POV so much but yet not much at all.

2)

IF

EYE

is a traitor, WHY is he at the bottom of your readslist?

3)

So, I'm scum based off

eye's

post? ...You keep shelving a read on me throughout this whole game, but the first "crumbs" you throw out as a potential traitor implies I'm in a scumteam.

Why do you think there's definitively a traitor and a scumteam? Where is your read progression?

Blake Belladonna was townreading Luca Blight, and thought popsofctown was scum during parts of Day 1. Why would I need a case to outline something which should be fairly evident?

Regarding her NK: I'm openly hypothesising. If she was killed without knowing her role, I feel more inclined to follow her reads/let them impact mine. If she was killed because scum knew her role, her reads mean a lot less for NKA.

Aloratom is my strongest read for his thoughts/transparency this game, along with the stark contrast to his scumgame that I witnessed recently.

1) I don't understand this question. I'm not thinking too much about who's a traitor or not, outside of looking for crumbs.
2) I don't think/know whether eyestott is a traitor. I was looking for potential crumbs.
3) Uhh, I think you might be reading into me looking for potential crumbs a little too much, buddy. I even stated it would be a really risky crumb if it was a traitor one.
4) No.

Taly, Fuzzy's mislynch made me more confident in scum!NDMath, since he was the coutnerwagon and his posts didn't improve day 2 at all.

Why don't you think Something_Smart/eyestott can be both scum, given those were the two slots Blake Belladonna had in her scumpool?

...You never entertained my

NDMath

ISO.

So, you think

S_S/eye

are scum?

S_S-Me

groupscum and

eyestott

traitor? Is that what I'm getting from your posts?

I don't disregard

eye/S_S

to both be scum.

But I don't think

S_S

is groupscum based on my thoughts in 2073, and I have reason to believe he's town. How about you reread my posts that specifically address

S_S

, right?

Or enlighten me, how the 3 of us are scum in the reality you prompted?

I don't know. Honestly, my reads are still mostly independent. I'm bad enough at solo reads to try preflip solving.

[Something_Smart]

Town should NEVER DISCOUNT a person's input like this, mafia is a TEAM GAME as BOTH alignments, and I'm laying my ENTIRE thought process down and it's being dismissed before it's given a PROPER REBUTTAL.

Sorry. Your long posts are laid out in a way that doesn't make them easy to follow. It's not easy for me to see the chain of logic leading to a certain conclusion, because there are a lot of different conclusions about different things all thrown together.

Can you give me a two-sentence summary of why you think eyestott and Paragon can't both be town?

[Taly]

I'll get to you

S_S

... but please be sure that's not all of what my wall amounts to in a response...

p-edit

you too,

Paragon

.

I'll get back to the GIFs, got waaay too beside myself a moment there.

[Something_Smart]

I would like to take things one at a time and break down your argument so I can actually see why you are thinking what you are.

[Paragon]

I HAVE ALL THE REASON FOR FRUSTRATION IF YOU READ MY POSTS.

Here you go again! The second I pushback on you, you retreat to this bullshit narrative that I'm feigning emotions and that you dislike my posts for NO elaborated reason!

You did it D1!

I will admit I have a bias in assuming anger/frustration in mafia is scum-AtE. It might just be how my brain is wired. I'll try to consider it less so, and the content of your posts more so.

[Paragon]

I love the presentation and colour-coding of your megawall, if anything, Taly <3

[eyestott]

I am refraining from commenting on the current situation until claims have happened.

[Taly]

Listen, before I unplug a little, I just have to say that I can be screaming all-caps in a game and it's never personal for me.

I like you guys, I'm just seeing the same issues in this game that are repeating themselves and if I don't force my perspective, the same results will happen D1 and D2.

I've put effort into this game, and it's wrong to let my emotions make me succumb to apathy, or drive others away.

So, separate personal feelings from my solving posts. Please and thank you.

My frustation is at game-you, not person-you, and my frustration is with game-everybody- not just you two,

SS/Paragon

.



Specifically when we're in potential lylo because I become pretty erratic when I enter lylo.

[Something_Smart]

Eyestott, what do you think the claim order should be?

[Paragon]

Let's play Popcorn. Start us off, Something_Smart!

[Paragon]

Of course, that's what I'd assumed, Taly <3

Keep the tiger GIFs coming!

[Something_Smart]

Let's play Popcorn. Start us off, Something_Smart!

I'll pass. Let's see what eyestott says.

[Taly]

I am refraining from commenting on the current situation until claims have happened.

I'm taking this as a

"just do it"

.

2-Shot Bulletproof.

ugh, just save me for D2 man.

hopefully I bite an NK soon to save me from this shit, lord knows scum should.

These were my crumbs. Mixed in with my frustration, I wanted to lower the risk I survive to lylo, and I wanted to shield potential people I townread - so if scum shot me - no townie would die.

[eyestott]

Eyestott, what do you think the claim order should be?

Just do it, as Taly said

[Paragon]

These were my crumbs. Mixed in with my frustration, I wanted to lower the risk I survive to lylo, and I wanted to shield potential people I townread - so if scum shot me - no townie would die.

Are you implying you thought there was a chance scum would target you 3 times - preventing you from surviving to LyLo? Or did you anticipate a strongman?

Oh, is the bulletproof an active rather than passive ability?

[eyestott]

Actually, never mind everyone. I got the person to claim who I wanted to claim.
Hold off for a minute

[Taly]

These were my crumbs. Mixed in with my frustration, I wanted to lower the risk I survive to lylo, and I wanted to shield potential people I townread - so if scum shot me - no townie would die.

Are you implying you thought there was a chance scum would target you 3 times - preventing you from surviving to LyLo? Or did you anticipate a strongman?

Oh, is the bulletproof an active rather than passive ability?

Passive. It just happens.

And no, I didn't think scum would necessarily target me 3 times.

But, if I heard a

"No NK happened tonight!"

then I would've immediately had a strong suspicion that I was a target.. I wanted that to happen.

And that's what I hoped for Other than the alternative.

[eyestott]

Hypothetical question which I’m asking to promote discussion rather than for seeking advice:
If I were a vanilla townie, when would be the best/worst time to claim it?

Ha! You fools! ‘Twas not a hypothetical question, it was a crumb!
I’m a neopolitan.
Night one I targeted Luca, getting a VT result. So I was quite excited to hear this news.

Only to discover that not only was he dead, BUT ANOTHER VT TOO. 3/3 of the dead people were VTs by the time I said fuck at the start of D2. My first post was representative of me thinking “ugh, I’m probably the only investigative, and I’m likely gonna have no useful results.”

Night 2 I decided the same strategy of investigating a strong townread that I can get behind if I can clear them as a VT. I investigated Taly, and got a “not a VT” result.

[Taly]

But, if I heard a "No NK happened tonight!" then I would've immediately had a strong suspicion that I was a target.. I wanted that to happen.

It's part of a reason why I was doing vanity type wagons, and why I was looking deeply into the most wagoned people.

I genuinely had reason to believe they were town, but I played against the playerlist's narrative by pursuing my own reads.

I thought scum would consider me a lesser-controlled factor. This mentality fell off a little D2 because I lost touch on whether I was correct on my initial reads D1.

[Taly]

Basically, I NK baited myself D1 and failed terribly, causing my D2 performance to feel out-of-grasp of the gamstate.

That's why I clung to

Blake

when she implied I was wrong on my townreads AGAIN, somewhere.

[Something_Smart]

Eyestott, you should choose the claim order now.

[Taly]

Hypothetical question which I’m asking to promote discussion rather than for seeking advice:
If I were a vanilla townie, when would be the best/worst time to claim it?

Ha! You fools! ‘Twas not a hypothetical question, it was a crumb!
I’m a neopolitan.
Night one I targeted Luca, getting a VT result. So I was quite excited to hear this news.

Only to discover that not only was he dead, BUT ANOTHER VT TOO. 3/3 of the dead people were VTs by the time I said fuck at the start of D2. My first post was representative of me thinking “ugh, I’m probably the only investigative, and I’m likely gonna have no useful results.”

Night 2 I decided the same strategy of investigating a strong townread that I can get behind if I can clear them as a VT. I investigated Taly, and got a “not a VT” result.

oh yay, you're town

eye

and yeah.

my PR was passive.

[eyestott]

I’m fine with myself being tonight’s night kill because my lynching was pretty likely until this point.
Because now, the scum need to either kill me tonight so I can’t clear a townie for tomorrow, or hope that I get a non-informative result and bring a mislynch upon me.

[eyestott]

Eyestott, you should choose the claim order now.

The reason I asked for a massclaim has been fulfilled by Taly claiming. I revoke my request.

[Taly]

I’m fine with myself being tonight’s night kill because my lynching was pretty likely until this point.
Because now, the scum need to either kill me tonight so I can’t clear a townie for tomorrow, or hope that I get a non-informative result and bring a mislynch upon me.

so, wanna townbloc?

too tired to quote where i most said

alo/ame slot

were town, but i suggest you read it.