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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:13 pm

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No. We are not doing this, Nancy. Do not comment on every single post unless you're scumhunting. We do not need general comments that contribute nothing to the game state.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:13 pm

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In post 1161, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: DDL
DDL is in Halloween or Xmas? because Stux told me I couldn’t vote him
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:20 pm

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In post 1226, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1198, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
In post 1169, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
I'm also interested in this. I'm clearly not taking this game super seriously... I am doing some amount of solving though but I'm curious to hear about what you mean by "serious work".
When I say "serious work", I don't mean actual game solving effort. I just liked the direction they were going and how they were interacting with me. Essentially they shaped up.
I would still like some specifics. I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion based on what they posted between A and B, and also whether you can convince me they're not scum.
In post 1203, mastina wrote:
In post 1142, Trojan Horses wrote:Mastina isn’t an easy read but she seems to be pretty genuine here, where she seems kind of off as scum.
Oh that's a really good way of describing it yeah.

As scum I've tried a lifetime to not feel "off" to myself but to this day, never had a scumgame where I didn't feel 'off'. And when I can tell I am 'off' as scum, I can tell that others can tell, too.

Similarly so for as town. Like this game, I can recognize I'm not the normal town mastina but can still feel that I'm *a* town mastina and am not 'off' to a degree where scumreads on me should exist. They shouldn't.
This is also a mastina scumpost. I believe I recall some game where she went on and on about excuses why she didn't match up to her normal self but was totally town, possibly in the absence of anyone pressing her on it.
Mastina talks about her meta all the time, this is NIA for her, she is tonally town. I have never seen her effectively fake that in any game where I’ve played with scum!her.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:31 pm

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In post 1427, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1171, Trojan Horses wrote:I was tl you before I knew that but that read is strengthened by knowing this.

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oh, nancy drew is in trojan horses? they might actually be scum, then.
Why? and nope.
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:35 pm

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In post 1450, northsidegal wrote:there is also the fact that it's not exactly clear that your last line has "even if i am lying" implicit in it. i think that a reading of your post in which you take it that the author believes what they are saying still has the inconsistency which i brought up.

it feels like overjustification, especially given that i've never said that it's because of her not posting that her presence scum-inclines your slot. like, "she can't post, but even if she could i'd be making her post if we were scum, so either way you're wrong". like, just mentioning that she can't post seems like justification enough to me. a plausible thought explaining the last line to me went something like "oh no, ND lurking is getting us scumread as i knew would happen, need to deny it on multiple fronts" or something like that. that's a bit exaggerated but i'm not sure of a better way to word the thought i had.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:37 pm

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In post 1451, Trojan Horses wrote:Okay, then. Well, I will say that she initially wasn't very fond of my deciding to troll around, but she does find it amusing. ;)

I'll list off some reads of her from Discord:
Molla probably town as his progression on NSG looks genuine, although he's not an easy read.
Gamma probably town.
Elmo seemed scummy.
And pointed out a towntell for RC.
Still think this. Gamma looks like he’s genuinely sorting and molla sounds super townie.
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:39 pm

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In post 1456, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1423, BBmolla wrote:Why are people so dead this game what the actual fuck

too many dead people to be fucking scum

THIS IS HOW WE LOSE BROS

CAN WE PLEASE NOT LET THIS GAME DIE
Lol this is the fakest shit of all time, this is prime 2008 era shitty scumplay
But what about his nsg progression? Do you not tr that?
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:40 pm

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In post 1457, Not_Mafia wrote:Will hammer Molla when he hits L-1, not reading anything but VCs until that happens, will be back to shitpost as the mood takes me
Why? Are you basing this solely on one post? I don’t think molla fakes that progression on nsg, so no.
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:42 pm

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In post 1467, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: Elmo

Going with my gut. I think TH is probably very likely scum.
I strongly recommend a good juice cleanse in that case,
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:50 pm

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In post 1491, Baezu wrote:
In post 1451, Trojan Horses wrote:Okay, then. Well, I will say that she initially wasn't very fond of my deciding to troll around, but she does find it amusing. ;)

I'll list off some reads of her from Discord:
Molla probably town as his progression on NSG looks genuine, although he's not an easy read.
Gamma probably town.
Elmo seemed scummy.
And pointed out a towntell for RC
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Please enlighten the rest of the class
Town!RC cares a lot about not mislynching and tends to hard defend easy mislynchbait like lhfs. I’ve seen him do that in both DnD and in CoaLITion.
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:53 pm

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In post 1525, gobbledygook wrote:No. We are not doing this, Nancy. Do not comment on every single post unless you're scumhunting. We do not need general comments that contribute nothing to the game state.
I am. I’m trying to get caught up so sue me.
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:05 pm

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I jus think it’s really funny that Gobbles townlocked me as scum in Coalition and both wrongly sr me in Radja’s and this game. :lol:
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:14 pm

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In post 1527, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1226, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1198, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
In post 1169, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
I'm also interested in this. I'm clearly not taking this game super seriously... I am doing some amount of solving though but I'm curious to hear about what you mean by "serious work".
When I say "serious work", I don't mean actual game solving effort. I just liked the direction they were going and how they were interacting with me. Essentially they shaped up.
I would still like some specifics. I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion based on what they posted between A and B, and also whether you can convince me they're not scum.
In post 1203, mastina wrote:
In post 1142, Trojan Horses wrote:Mastina isn’t an easy read but she seems to be pretty genuine here, where she seems kind of off as scum.
Oh that's a really good way of describing it yeah.

As scum I've tried a lifetime to not feel "off" to myself but to this day, never had a scumgame where I didn't feel 'off'. And when I can tell I am 'off' as scum, I can tell that others can tell, too.

Similarly so for as town. Like this game, I can recognize I'm not the normal town mastina but can still feel that I'm *a* town mastina and am not 'off' to a degree where scumreads on me should exist. They shouldn't.
This is also a mastina scumpost. I believe I recall some game where she went on and on about excuses why she didn't match up to her normal self but was totally town, possibly in the absence of anyone pressing her on it.
Mastina talks about her meta all the time, this is NIA for her, she is tonally town. I have never seen her effectively fake that in any game where I’ve played with scum!her.
I know she talks about her meta all the time. That's not what I was concerned with.

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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:28 pm

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In post 1480, jjh927 wrote:I'm kinda interested in why NSG seems to lack confidence in her read on me atm
my current inclination is to scumread you. are you more confused that i lack confidence than that i scumread you? i guess i'll just ask: how do you think i should be reading you?
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 1529, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1450, northsidegal wrote:there is also the fact that it's not exactly clear that your last line has "even if i am lying" implicit in it. i think that a reading of your post in which you take it that the author believes what they are saying still has the inconsistency which i brought up.

it feels like overjustification, especially given that i've never said that it's because of her not posting that her presence scum-inclines your slot. like, "she can't post, but even if she could i'd be making her post if we were scum, so either way you're wrong". like, just mentioning that she can't post seems like justification enough to me. a plausible thought explaining the last line to me went something like "oh no, ND lurking is getting us scumread as i knew would happen, need to deny it on multiple fronts" or something like that. that's a bit exaggerated but i'm not sure of a better way to word the thought i had.
FYI, nsg I’m literally grueving a dead friend and haven’t been on MS aq regularily. Check it out, if you think I’m bsinf you.
i've never once indicated that i scumread you because of a lack of posts nor have i indicated that i think that you could be lying about not being able to post. i'm sorry to hear about your friend.
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:31 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 1537, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1527, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1226, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1198, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
In post 1169, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1168, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1165, Lie Ren wrote:I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now
Can I get some details here?
I'm also interested in this. I'm clearly not taking this game super seriously... I am doing some amount of solving though but I'm curious to hear about what you mean by "serious work".
When I say "serious work", I don't mean actual game solving effort. I just liked the direction they were going and how they were interacting with me. Essentially they shaped up.
I would still like some specifics. I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion based on what they posted between A and B, and also whether you can convince me they're not scum.
In post 1203, mastina wrote:
In post 1142, Trojan Horses wrote:Mastina isn’t an easy read but she seems to be pretty genuine here, where she seems kind of off as scum.
Oh that's a really good way of describing it yeah.

As scum I've tried a lifetime to not feel "off" to myself but to this day, never had a scumgame where I didn't feel 'off'. And when I can tell I am 'off' as scum, I can tell that others can tell, too.

Similarly so for as town. Like this game, I can recognize I'm not the normal town mastina but can still feel that I'm *a* town mastina and am not 'off' to a degree where scumreads on me should exist. They shouldn't.
This is also a mastina scumpost. I believe I recall some game where she went on and on about excuses why she didn't match up to her normal self but was totally town, possibly in the absence of anyone pressing her on it.
Mastina talks about her meta all the time, this is NIA for her, she is tonally town. I have never seen her effectively fake that in any game where I’ve played with scum!her.
I know she talks about her meta all the time. That's not what I was concerned with.

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It takes awhile and not every player can be read off tone but as good as she is, she hasn’t been able to fake the sincerity and genuineness of her town games, especially when it’s as obvious as it is here. In RC uPick, I don’t ever recall her ever making reads the same way she is here. Scum!Mastina almost seems robotic. The passion she expressed while making her tr, especially on Gobbles and Cakes, isn’t something I’ve seen her do as scum.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:34 pm

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In post 1539, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1529, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1450, northsidegal wrote:there is also the fact that it's not exactly clear that your last line has "even if i am lying" implicit in it. i think that a reading of your post in which you take it that the author believes what they are saying still has the inconsistency which i brought up.

it feels like overjustification, especially given that i've never said that it's because of her not posting that her presence scum-inclines your slot. like, "she can't post, but even if she could i'd be making her post if we were scum, so either way you're wrong". like, just mentioning that she can't post seems like justification enough to me. a plausible thought explaining the last line to me went something like "oh no, ND lurking is getting us scumread as i knew would happen, need to deny it on multiple fronts" or something like that. that's a bit exaggerated but i'm not sure of a better way to word the thought i had.
FYI, nsg I’m literally grueving a dead friend and haven’t been on MS aq regularily. Check it out, if you think I’m bsinf you.
i've never once indicated that i scumread you because of a lack of posts nor have i indicated that i think that you could be lying about not being able to post. i'm sorry to hear about your friend.
Thank you, it’s been really hard. What is your reasoning then? I really don’t understand it.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:39 pm

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In post 1541, Trojan Horses wrote:Thank you, it’s been really hard. What is your reasoning then? I really don’t understand it.
Nancy I can answer most of your Qs on Discord. I think the hyperpost catchup style makes the game generally harder to read!
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:47 pm

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In post 1542, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1541, Trojan Horses wrote:Thank you, it’s been really hard. What is your reasoning then? I really don’t understand it.
Nancy I can answer most of your Qs on Discord. I think the hyperpost catchup style makes the game generally harder to read!
But you haven’t. Neither of you has kept me informed of what’s been happening, so please do. I hydra for a reason.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 1543, Trojan Horses wrote:But you haven’t. Neither of you has kept me informed of what’s been happening, so please do. I hydra for a reason.
I mean read up and just ask me the Qs on Disc lel, I pinged you a hour or two ago and you didn't respond :P
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:06 pm

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In post 1544, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1543, Trojan Horses wrote:But you haven’t. Neither of you has kept me informed of what’s been happening, so please do. I hydra for a reason.
I mean read up and just ask me the Qs on Disc lel, I pinged you a hour or two ago and you didn't respond :P
Sorry, I haven’t been checking my Discord either. I’ve been extremely disconnected recently.:/
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 1529, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1450, northsidegal wrote:there is also the fact that it's not exactly clear that your last line has "even if i am lying" implicit in it. i think that a reading of your post in which you take it that the author believes what they are saying still has the inconsistency which i brought up.

it feels like overjustification, especially given that i've never said that it's because of her not posting that her presence scum-inclines your slot. like, "she can't post, but even if she could i'd be making her post if we were scum, so either way you're wrong". like, just mentioning that she can't post seems like justification enough to me. a plausible thought explaining the last line to me went something like "oh no, ND lurking is getting us scumread as i knew would happen, need to deny it on multiple fronts" or something like that. that's a bit exaggerated but i'm not sure of a better way to word the thought i had.
FYI, nsg I’m literally grueving a dead friend and haven’t been on MS aq regularily. Check it out, if you think I’m bsinf you.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:11 pm

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In post 1546, Baezu wrote:
In post 1529, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 1450, northsidegal wrote:there is also the fact that it's not exactly clear that your last line has "even if i am lying" implicit in it. i think that a reading of your post in which you take it that the author believes what they are saying still has the inconsistency which i brought up.

it feels like overjustification, especially given that i've never said that it's because of her not posting that her presence scum-inclines your slot. like, "she can't post, but even if she could i'd be making her post if we were scum, so either way you're wrong". like, just mentioning that she can't post seems like justification enough to me. a plausible thought explaining the last line to me went something like "oh no, ND lurking is getting us scumread as i knew would happen, need to deny it on multiple fronts" or something like that. that's a bit exaggerated but i'm not sure of a better way to word the thought i had.
FYI, nsg I’m literally grueving a dead friend and haven’t been on MS aq regularily. Check it out, if you think I’m bsinf you.
Omg that's terrible...hopefully not Corona virus related?
No, sudden unexpected death due to liver complications resulting from an auto-immune disease. Thanks.
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:23 pm

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I townread SirCakez now.

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jj's most recent posts are kind of weird and I don't know what to make of them
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