Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[Battle Mage]

town has even less hope of winning if Eyestott and Taly are both town, and follow Taly's reads on the game.

[Paragon]

Wait, what? Your actual prediction is nothing like what you've been saying in most of your posts. I feel what you're saying but with regards to eyestott for me. If he's town, then we probably lose if Taly is scum.

Our favourite Ninja Cult Leader, popsofctown is telling me to post another prediction for posterity's sake for post game:

Taly + eyestott + Battle Mage

[Paragon]

I think my solve actually just boils down to 3 of [Taly, eyestott, Battle Mage, Something_Smart] being scum. Aloratom and Churros, do not fail me. Blake Belladonna tells me I'm being too narrow minded, and that I should broaden my horizons and at least consider Aloratom a little more, but I think Luca Blight agrees with me in Aloratom being a standup guy, and probably just town.

[Churros]

I'm here.

I truly hadn't enough time in lunch break but another reason I wanted to wait for this game

specifically

is because I had something important to say and wanted to consider things a bit more in the calm state of a post-shower mind, because I'm really weirded out right now.

[Paragon]

In other news, Ame's had a serious falling out with the group! She told them she had a dream where clidd was looming over the 3 of them, and systematically plucked each into the air and ate them while Huming. I think it really creeped them out... so anyway, she's no longer in the townbloc within the hivemind.

Pedit: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Battle Mage]

Churros, claim now.

[Battle Mage]

also what is it with people in this game talking about their bathroom habits?

[Battle Mage]

Wait, what? Your actual prediction is nothing like what you've been saying in most of your posts. I feel what you're saying but with regards to eyestott for me. If he's town, then we probably lose if Taly is scum.

Our favourite Ninja Cult Leader, popsofctown is telling me to post another prediction for posterity's sake for post game:

Taly + eyestott + Battle Mage

That's even more reason to lynch Taly today then.

Both because I'm in your top 3 lynches too, but also because Eyestott will follow Taly anyway. Although if you're right, it won't be possible to lynch Taly-scum anyway without somebody bussing.

My gut feeling is screaming that you are scum - something about the eagerness and excitement which comes with scum on the cusp of victory. Although you're conducting yourself with calmness and grace, so kudos for your manner.

[Churros]

I'm a 1-shot Novice Gunsmith.

The reason I was putting Taly on the "fridge" was because I got less confident on her and wanted to only lynch with a guilty there, because if she flipped town I feel like it would be chaotic for me. I also wanted to be smug by everyone denying me on Taly/avoid being idiot if I was wrong. But my ego aside, I didn't check Taly yesterday because regardless of Taly's alignment, I definitely felt that SS had to be scum with a town!NDmath flip.

I checked SS. He doesn't have a gun.

I checked mafiawiki, apparently the unique possibility of S_S not being town is if he's a mafia doctor, which seems pretty unlikely so far. It would be believable if the vigilante had more than one-shot, but it already flipped and it was indeed 1-shot like me.

RC is known for town sided setups, a mafia doctor is very unlikely even if all claims so far were true, and it's even less likely if there's someone fakeclaiming PR.

[Churros]

SS is...against all odds very very probably town.

[Paragon]

My gut feeling is screaming that you are scum - something about the eagerness and excitement which comes with scum on the cusp of victory. Although you're conducting yourself with calmness and grace, so kudos for your manner.

I'm having a lot of fun! I know scum wins this 80% of the time, but doesn't mean I can't enjoy the ride. I assure you my attitude is NAI.

[Something_Smart]

Oh goddammit.

Now my reads actually matter.

[Churros]

That's even more reason to lynch Taly today then.

I skimmed a bunch of posts and didn't nearly read everything yet, but weren't you saying that you wanted to lynch me?

Your reason for wanting to lynch me already didn't make any sense since it was roughly an association/info lynch when we're in

LyLo

, but you're spinning it around now that I hinted at being a PR?

Anyway, I need to count but isn't BM/me confirmed to have scum from any 3rd party PoV and we always lynch here? He voted me for some time, I think everyone aside from me/Alo posted and there was no hammer. Why I feel like people are so mechanically slow nowadays...? Like, no offense but?

[Battle Mage]

Of all the PR claims, I think Taly's is the least plausible. Although it's still plausible.

[Churros]

I should double check for how much time BM voted me/if everyone posted but I do think it was almost everyone.

Yeah, if Alo is scum he isn't confirmed but to be honest I just don't like the way he treated my slot at all and I'm individually SR what he has posted so far.

Info/associations lynches in LyLo as town just doesn't enter my mind. He's talking as if there's a tomorrow to sort when if we get it wrong today we possibly have no future at all.

[Something_Smart]

My current thoughts are that Taly is the only PR claim that can be scum, and he's been my top townread all game.

[Something_Smart]

Obviously, if we find out there are only two scum, that changes things.

[Battle Mage]

That's even more reason to lynch Taly today then.

I skimmed a bunch of posts and didn't nearly read everything yet, but weren't you saying that you wanted to lynch me?

Your reason for wanting to lynch me already didn't make any sense since it was roughly an association/info lynch when we're in

LyLo

, but you're spinning it around now that I hinted at being a PR?

Anyway, I need to count but isn't BM/me confirmed to have scum from any 3rd party PoV and we always lynch here? He voted me for some time, I think everyone aside from me/Alo posted and there was no hammer. Why I feel like people are so mechanically slow nowadays...? Like, no offense but?

this was posted before you claimed a PR - I had no idea whether you were going to claim anything until you did.

And no, I was online for the maybe 20 minutes the vote was left on. It was pretty obviously bait, and nobody went for it (sadly!). NAI for you, or anyone around at the time.

[Paragon]

This means:

The only case in which eyestott is scum is in the case where there are only 2 scum in the game. 1-shot vig + 1-shot gunsmith(?) + 2-shot bulletproof(?) is definitely not balanced for 3 scum in 12 players.

[Paragon]

Taly + Battle Mage + Aloratom

Covering my bases.

[Battle Mage]

Ok I'm taking the plunge.

Vote: Taly

For reasons already clearly outlined.

[Paragon]

I am very tempted to join this.

[Churros]

Of all the PR claims, I think Taly's is the least plausible. Although it's still plausible.

About this I've more beef with eyesott claim than I have with Taly's.

I'll consider for now on my pov, only me/Blake roles as confirmed.

Ok, we have a 1-shot Novice Gunsmith, and a 1-shot Vigilante.

The classic false positive investigative thing, and both are gated at 1-shot which suggest that scum doesn't have a lot of power in their hands.

RC is known for doing town sided setups, and one more PR sounds plausible, but Neapolitan, another investigative role, ungated?

Hm.

But 2-shot BP?

2-shot BP, 1-shot Gunsmith, 1-shot Vigilante are all gated and have synergy. The Vigilante can be either false guilt'ed by me or get his shot nullified by the BP. It's ok setup design. Neapolitan doesn't necessarily is odd here but it's not as much fitting either.

Now with roughly the above, I find it unlike as well that scum has no PRs at all. I think they would have a weak one out of three man. The ones to come to mind are:

1) Neighbours

which no one claimed

and

2) Role-cop,

Now, in a world where there's a rolecop, how likely you think that there's a neapolitan in town?

Eyesott can easily be a role cop fakeclaiming. Easily. It's a claim that reveals 0 useful information to town while at the same time gives him credit since he has a "role".

I don't see any special reason for a neapolitan in the setup above, even if I was to remove Taly's claim and consider her fakeclaiming.

[Paragon]

Churros makes a good point actually. Taly's a 'he' btw.

Battle Mage, how'd you go from Taly not being in your "actual prediction" to voting him?

[Churros]

That's even more reason to lynch Taly today then.

I skimmed a bunch of posts and didn't nearly read everything yet, but weren't you saying that you wanted to lynch me?

Your reason for wanting to lynch me already didn't make any sense since it was roughly an association/info lynch when we're in

LyLo

, but you're spinning it around now that I hinted at being a PR?

Anyway, I need to count but isn't BM/me confirmed to have scum from any 3rd party PoV and we always lynch here? He voted me for some time, I think everyone aside from me/Alo posted and there was no hammer. Why I feel like people are so mechanically slow nowadays...? Like, no offense but?

And no, I was online for the maybe 20 minutes the vote was left on

. It was pretty obviously bait, and nobody went for it (sadly!). NAI for you, or anyone around at the time.

Ah, I feel a bit stupid now.

I still don't like how you treated my slot though