Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[Jingle]

Vecna replaces Jormengand.

GuyInFreezer replaces Bernadetta.

[mastina]

GuyInFreezer replaces Bernadetta.

Jingle you have a real talent for replacing one type of player with a nearly identical sort of player. (NM's replacement of DDL was similarly so.)

One question tho, why Vecna for Jormun? I don't see their similarities at all.

[BBmolla]

molla is being a bit weird.

how so?

cause if it's that I'm not grumpy it's because this is the first playerlist I've thoroughly enjoyed in literally years

edit: omg even better

[Jingle]

Vote Count #1.6
Halloween	Christmas
With 9 Alive, it is 5 to Lynch or No Lynch! Vecna (3): SirCakez, We are not helping, Trojan Horses, SirCakez (1): Baezu, We are not helping (1): Radiant Cowbells, Trojan Horses (1): Shuichi Saihara, Baezu (1): Lie Ren, Radiant Cowbells (0): GuyInFreezer (0): Shuichi Saihara (0): Lie Ren (0): Not Voting (3): GuyInFreezer, Vecna,	With 9 Alive, it is 5 to Lynch or No Lynch! Not_Mafia (2): BBMolla, Elmo teh AzN, mastina (2): Wonderwalll, Not Mafia Elmo teh AzN (1): Gobbledegook, Wonderwalll (1):mastina, Amrun (0): jjh (0): Northsidegal (0): Gobbledegook (0): BBMolla (0): Not Voting (3): jjh, Amrun, NSG,

Replacing Amrun. Prodding Wonderwalll.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: mastina

[Not_Mafia]

possibly one of the weirdest posts i have ever seen mastina make and mastina has made some weird posts

lol this guy actually reads mastina posts

[Firebringer]

possibly one of the weirdest posts i have ever seen mastina make and mastina has made some weird posts

lol this guy actually reads mastina posts

I love u

[Wonderwalll]

woooooooooah
not mafia is here!

[Wonderwalll]

yes i am prod dodging for mena

[mastina]

yes i am prod dodging for mena

(Really tho. You're trolling if you think ^this^ slot is town.)

[SirCakez]

These are some bizarre replacements..

[SirCakez]

I am slowly losing my already weak TR on WANH
Wonderwall is still scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Jingle you have a real talent for replacing one type of player with a nearly identical sort of player. (NM's replacement of DDL was similarly so.)

thonk

[Vecna]

Hey guys. Time for some slot salvaging I guess.

[Vecna]

GuyInFreezer replaces Bernadetta.

Jingle you have a real talent for replacing one type of player with a nearly identical sort of player. (NM's replacement of DDL was similarly so.)

One question tho, why Vecna for Jormun? I don't see their similarities at all.

When I pm'd Jingle, there was only 1 slot up for replacing (bit weird of a question regardless?)

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Mastina

L-1

[We are not helping]

my hydra partners dont take me srsly, pls send help

-bitmap

[BBmolla]

Hey guys. Time for some slot salvaging I guess.

Fucking HUUUUUUUGE yikes

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: mastina

[SirCakez]

Yeah I want to lynch vecna based on entrance alone
Well I guess we're finally getting a flip...
Mastina were you scum?

[gobbledygook]

What pinged about Vecna’s entrance?

[Vecna]

Catchup comments/megawall in spoilers. WARNING: POTENTIALLY EYE-AIDS-INDUCING

Spoiler:

Page 1 thoughts: JJH seems pretty weird, and does not feel towny here at all. I already hate the fact that Firebringer is in a hydra as it gives him even more reasons/excuses to troll to shit kingdom come

Page 2:

My slot can be held to high expectations :3

-Stuxnet

This already feels like a pretty towny post

Also feeling pretty good about the interactions between firebringer and RC for bad reasons. Silly gutfeeling not really based on anything. Wanting RC to play is easily faked as scum. Still feeling good for unexplainable reason. RC doing his usual thing, like him not participating would actually reduce the chances of him getting nightkilled in his mind?

Not liking Mastina's reads based on the first 2 pages. What else is new. I agree on bernadette, the rest is like....wut?

you don't actually scumread me, but if you're trying to start a fight you can have one.

Actually you got that backwards--I do scumread you but I've no interest in a fight. I'd vote you but I wouldn't push you, would be more or less just a vote I'd put out there for a sake of a vote/for lack of better options. Legit think your approach so far is more likely to be from you as scum, but I am fully aware that pushing that angle so early would be entirely unproductive. Doesn't stop me from stating the scumread tho.

Mastina can be early mild town based on this though. Pretty towny way of approaching if you do thing RC is scum, since fighting him just helps him.

I don't believe you. But say what you want.

I mean I don't exactly have a way to show you my brain's thought process and that's literally the only place where proof exists but like.

Not lying. Dead serious.

So like.

Go ahead and doubt me, that doesn't mean your doubt is actually correct because. I know what I think and I think your play this game is more likely to come from you as scum than town, and yet it should be stupidly obvious why pushing you in spite of having that belief would be a waste of time. (Namely because if you're town you're dead via nightkill before D3, and also because if you're town you'll give me something that I'll read as town eventually. Plus, would add a lot of noise which is something that I don't see any way of it not being disastrous for the gamestate's health.)

Oof, this is just too damn wordy though. Dont wanna fight, so just argue semantically? meh

I unironically think RC is town

Also feels town. God this is going to be an editing mess. Hope it wont be totally unreadable.

page 2 read lists are scummy

gobble probably leaning town cause 73

-bitmap

^good. feeling synchro

Oh I thought this would be two separate threads

SAME

I feel privileged to be in mastina's page 2 readslist

Sircakes slot feels weaksauce. No good impressions in his few posts yet.

RC is conftown this game, guys....look at his liasse faire, I don’t give a shit attitude

Total town meta

Moderate points

Just to be clear I'm serious about effectively spectating the other game in order to preserve our playerlist

Missing the early hottakes from JJH

Oh he's not in my game
VOTE: Elmo

I thought we were going to be friends
I see this isn't the case.
VOTE: Amrun
You done rolling scum in my games yet?

Not very great first impressions on this slot either

VOTE: NSG

shes playing to her scum meta

VOTE: NSG

shes playing to her scum meta

fuck off

Wtf is this weirdness in consecutive first posts? that is so fucking odd

chill nsg lmao

Also, did check the rules and from the sound of it, this isn't 2-2 with scum having one scumbuddy and not knowing the other team allowing them to have some semblance of legitimate scumhunting; it sounds like four groupscum, so take that into account. (I am also guessing that means only one nightkill from them each night.) It also sounds like we don't need to lynch two scum from our own game, so long as two scum die? I could be mistaken but it sounds like this game has a white flag mechanic where two scum dead = we win, period.

VOTE: mastina

Pinging over the same post though. But no thoughts to balance it based on other content?

#148 from mastina is like.....a complete utter 180 from my own reads. Guess she must be town? the fuck

Mastina if you try to call NSG scum when I am not calling her scum thats going to go very badly

^i mean, this is probably what NSG obv-town looks like, no?

RC Mastina pulled the whole “I read the rules so I know this thing about scum” and 9/10 it comes from scum trying to get Town cred

This is a general read and not specific to Mastina meta, correct?

Trojan horse be that sharp horsey

This game feels too easy, actually

More feel-sync. At this point everything does seem pretty black/white

Also, I be lazy as fuck.
Stuxnet uses mostly proper capitalization and such, but does use abbreviations and emotes and uses ':3' which narrows it down a lot but I be too lazy to think about scummers who fit that.
zeus refuses to use proper capitalization and such, is casual, uses chatspeakesque abbreviations, which narrows it down a lot but I be too lazy to think about scummers who fit that.

If I put in the effort to think about scummers who're active and on Krazy's mafiascum discord (because let's face it, 80% of hydras come from conversations on there anyway especially anonymous ones), just that criteria would be enough to narrow it down especially if I sifted through the logs of the main channel to find people who were chatting with each other and express the interest of "we should hydra together". Would be really really easy to do, it'd just require a shitload of effort and again, I be lazy as fuck.

Very happy to go main-hunting with deep passion. Probably doesnt mean shit.

Not huge on Trojan Horse

RC Mastina pulled the whole “I read the rules so I know this thing about scum” and 9/10 it comes from scum trying to get Town cred

I would say this is valid for literally any players but mastina
Who btw is just null rn all of this is well within both their town and scum meta

Anyways
BBmolla is town
RC is probably town

Elmo is scum players in Game Christmas should vote them
VOTE: Trojan horses
Their ISO is terrible

hmmm, post gives me some doubts. Very safe reads. Dont agree on horseys. Probably still in line with expectation of a scum slot but not as certain as before.

I’m legit worried that scum have like stupid high numbers to counteract this very townsided wincondition

possibly fake townslip

Hmmm, pointing this out as scum? Doable/easy, but still cause for more questioning

*Screams internally*

Okay I'll try to sift through everything and pick up on some dank reads if I can but I'm not honestly confident. I'm not totally used to ten pages of random nonsense before I even open the game TBH.

fucking hell, what a shit opener from my slot. Much salvaging to be done, lol

I think you're looking at Mastina's readslist wrong.

It's pro-town. It's probably a thing Mastina could do as either alignment but I (kinda baselessly) think it's more likely to come from town!Mastina. Mastina is engaged and trying to get people to think about setup stuff. This is also good. Actually, this is probably the most town indicative thing in the game thus far because I'm fairly sure we're on the same page, which indicates the thought process there is genuine

WTF IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT POST. Is this like, scum JJH trying to buddy a town mastina with gutterbal garbage? (sorry, but, cmon, wtf)

This game feels too easy, actually

Ok you're town

Baezu continues to be town

Oh, it was to jjh then

How do you think he was shitting on half the playerlist?

Can definately see where the scumreads on p66 are coming from. Initial impression on the slot aint great.

Why do you think it’s a weird vote?

I mean, is your reasoning that SirCakez is faking that gobbles is faking a townslip?

Gobbles could be faking a townslip

Gobbles could have really townslipped

Either way, it’s a bad metric to read him by and I don’t like that cakez is focussing on the “slip” element rather than anything else

This is actually pretty fucking solid though. Nice. Really nice

can someone tell me what to do thanks

hate

I have more thoughts but I'll say this. I think game 2 is the easier game to solve and should be the game that runs faster.

I'd hate to say this but personally thinking mastina/jjh lean town.

-bitmap

The fuck, how you reach that conclusion?

Okay, so far I’m liking Mastina, Gobbles and jjh for town.

~Nimda

I cannot work with this at all

so you can either lynch me because I am scum accusing your correct reads or you can agree that these reads might be wrong

Man, I really like RC this game

what do we all think about Baezu townreading a lot of people really early in the game?

Interesting. Baezu's posting feels really good. I still think he might be scum sensitizing well, but id guess the odds of that actually being the case to be fairly low. Having said that, I have no clue who is scum in halloween atm. Probably if I look at the playerlist and remove all obv townreads itll become very easy though.

[Vecna]

Yeah I want to lynch vecna based on entrance alone
Well I guess we're finally getting a flip...
Mastina were you scum?

Ill be obv-town soon enough (if my way did not do that for you yet somehow). You should probably remove that vote to not give scum the idea to hammer my slot while they still can.

[Vecna]

Really odd that people just now speedhammered Mastina with so many replacements coming in.

[RadiantCowbells]

i really dont care if mastina gets speedhammered tbh

her posts make me puke in my mouth a little bit