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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:14 pm

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In post 2345, Taly wrote:and why do you and BM keep saying "YOU REALIZE AS TOWN"?
Because I'm highlighting the fact your actions don't make sense as town.

Voting Battle Mage while he votes you: You lose if Battle Mage is town.

Voting Paragon while Battle Mage votes you: You lose if Battle Mage or Paragon is town.
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:15 pm

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I think this might be my first LyLo as town in a regular game. It's really toxic though, maybe being NK'ed early isn't all that bad.

I suppose I'm going to get to way more LyLos with this different playstyle. I wonder if I should be happy about it.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:16 pm

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In post 2350, Paragon wrote:
In post 2345, Taly wrote:and why do you and BM keep saying "YOU REALIZE AS TOWN"?
Because I'm highlighting the fact your actions don't make sense as town.

Voting Battle Mage while he votes you: You lose if Battle Mage is town.

Voting Paragon while Battle Mage votes you: You lose if Battle Mage or Paragon is town.
I lose in every situation you surmise, because you know how I'll flip for a fact. You planned this.

I may have been active a lot this game, but nobody has really followed me in any train of thought.

I towncased
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... everybody disagreed with the final conclusions.
I thought of
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as TvT...
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suspected me for this.

I've had no impact on this game. I've always been the best lynch for scum to jump on after
Fuzzy/NDMath
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 pm

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In post 2351, Churros wrote:I think this might be my first LyLo as town in a regular game. It's really toxic though, maybe being NK'ed early isn't all that bad.

I suppose I'm going to get to way more LyLos with this different playstyle. I wonder if I should be happy about it.
Please tell me how you get NKed early.

I hate making lylo, I do it more as town.

And this isn't your usual lylo... I'm being talked down to relentlessly here.
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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 pm

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Not all LyLos necessarily get like this, Churros! I've had some where everyone is still amiable and not AtEing at the end. People really care about being lynched in LyLo though - town or scum, so it's kind of understandable.
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:19 pm

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Honestly

I wouldn't be so bothered getting mislynched in lylo.

Just, how it's happening... I'm being told I'm the reason town loses, when I was the only person rethinking every mislynch.

It's shocking. This is brutal.
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:22 pm

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Taly, you came into this day hard scumreading me, and upon hearing eyestott's clam, declared me as 100% concrete scum. You've been highlighting/painting almost everything I did - especially towards the start of today as scummy or "potential slips", so I find it incredibly difficult to believe you're town. If you are, I apologise, but I don't believe we could have won this game regardless, given your firm stance on me.
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:22 pm

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Can't we lynch BM?

I don't see a universe where BM is town regardless of the scum in [Taly, Paragon]

The fact that both Taly and Paragon are pushing each other instead of realizing that with their reads BM can't ever be town doesn't make me feel great about them either.

Like, what exactly is the team if BM is town for you Paragon/Taly?

Truly, I think it's unlikely that Taly is town at this point, but even more unlikely to me is BM being town. Who exactly is scum if BM is town anyway? This goes to both Paragon and Taly.

Taly, you town read everyone else aside from BP/Paragon.

Paragon, you seem to be mathematically inclined to put Alo in your team but other than that you town read the slot individually, which means your truly scum reads are Taly/BM.

Why is the question being Paragon/Taly instead of just BM?

I feel like, we're going through the path we can be mistaken rather than going for the one where there's no doubt.

A Taly/Paragon team is so abnormal that I would need to have to get back to the newbie queue if it's the case.

BM, is that the team you believe in anyway?
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:22 pm

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Paragon
, if we're both town, who's scum?
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:23 pm

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If you'd like to unvote me however, I am open to unvoting you and using more of this day phase to discuss things.
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:24 pm

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I asked you who is scum if we're both town,
Paragon
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I don't really want to discuss anything else at the moment.
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 pm

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In post 2353, Taly wrote:
In post 2351, Churros wrote:I think this might be my first LyLo as town in a regular game. It's really toxic though, maybe being NK'ed early isn't all that bad.

I suppose I'm going to get to way more LyLos with this different playstyle. I wonder if I should be happy about it.
Please tell me how you get NKed early.

I hate making lylo, I do it more as town.

And this isn't your usual lylo... I'm being talked down to relentlessly here.
I used to be a good-two-shoes trying to be a exemplary town player. Maybe it's the reason I hate it so much right now. I never quite had fun that way.

This alt is fun though.
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 2357, Churros wrote:Why is the question being Paragon/Taly instead of just BM?

I feel like, we're going through the path we can be mistaken rather than going for the one where there's no doubt.
I feel similar if we voted
BM
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BM V Taly
dichotomy is a setup.
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:28 pm

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But I do scumread
BM
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:29 pm

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Churros makes a decent point. I
could
technically be convinced of voting Battle Mage, but idk.

I'm not sure, Taly. I'm struggling to answer the question. I think Churros and Something_Smart are kinda cleared because they've been online for a while with 2 votes on you. So Battle Mage + eyestott + Aloratom (?)
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:29 pm

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Something_Smart, post if you're here.
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:30 pm

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I can't really follow how
eye
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 2359, Paragon wrote:If you'd like to unvote me however, I am open to unvoting you and using more of this day phase to discuss things.
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:31 pm

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UNVOTE:

What do you want?
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:32 pm

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No, unvote me first.

Give me the exact same courtesy I just gave you or we have nothing to discuss.
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:32 pm

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UNVOTE: Taly

Some time to consider whether Battle Mage is a better vote than you.
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:33 pm

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:roll: Personally, I don't think you or anybody needs any more time to question themselves into oblivion.

So don't make me wait forever.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:35 pm

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VOTE: Battle Mage
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:36 pm

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In post 2355, Taly wrote:Just, how it's happening... I'm being told I'm the reason town loses, when I was the only person rethinking every mislynch.

It's shocking. This is brutal.
I don't think you're necessarily the reason town loses either. As in like, you literally are since if town you're the designated final mislynch by this point, but I don't think it's solely your fault if town, like BM is trying to paint.

I don't know, the more I play mafia the more I feel like there's nothing about effort or anything like that directly connected to some things. It's all about the energy or something you know?

Like, I don't get good energy from your slot, and even less from BM. I don't think you played badly if town, in fact you played arguably better than Paragon, but town reading a slot isn't really about see'ing how right their reads were.

If you're ever town, you've been arguably the player with the best reads in the game imo, but that doesn't make you townier than Paragon to me, really.

I think we're discussing a moot point though in you/Paragon today if it's not where I want to go.

I'm decided, kinda. I'm a sucker for AtE tbh.

VOTE: Battle Mage

I'm delaying the headache of [Paragon/Taly] to tomorrow if we don't lose the game to some weird universe or I get NK'ed.
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:36 pm

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I feel like I'm being held hostage, and I hate it.
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