Newbie 1996: GAME OVER

[Kirari Momobami]

LL v HEM screams scum vs scum to me. Thoughts?

Assuming not still from this?

[3bounty]

In recent memory he misrepped me by saying I tried to take an easy lynch on peaches, which never happened. The timing of his case on me seemed opportunistic. Fabricated case/read to get a mislynch. Never really town read him, so he is in my scum pile.

[Kirari Momobami]

Have we played, Kirari?

I might have missed this earlier but the answer is not to my recollection.

[Kirari Momobami]

3bounty

From what you say, I can see from your style that you're thinking out loud. What you don't do is follow through — only taking the safest vote on Peach, the inactive player. You said you're struggling to find decent scumreads, but you've really thrown at least 3 scumreads throughout the game: Me, LL, and InWho22.

You went from Alo being town (#225, #263) to scum (#345), for the same thing — ignoring people's question. Either I'm not understanding your process, or you don't have one. I'm betting you don't have one. If you do, I want to be enlightened.

What's good, 3bounty?

If you mean this, he didn't vote you and continued riding LL

[Kirari Momobami]

You're right that I don't see a push on peaches, he seems to be misunderstanding your discussion of alo's progression on peaches as a push on peaches yourself

On the plus side I'm gonna say human/3b is literally never the scumteam this game

[3bounty]

Are we talking vote here or case? I'm pretty sure he paired me with LL.

[3bounty]

Not saying he voted me specifically.

[Kirari Momobami]

He didn't really hard case you though

He more kinda said you were either scummy or hard to read I think?

Like not a very hard push given an associative with you hinges on ll flipping scum

[3bounty]

That makes sense, so you're town reading him?

[Kirari Momobami]

I thought his qq about the l2 in rvs was scummy, but I vibed with him on the who read I think and usually when I vibe someone on a read I give them at least a day pass.

[Kirari Momobami]

Peaches, mind weighing in on the drama? It seems we were overshadowed by Aloratom not doing RVS, and I don't like sharing the spotlight.

I dont get it.

RVS votes can provide information later on in the game. Town's strongest tool is their vote. I dont get why Aloratom didn't place an RVS vote. I still want @Aloratom to answer.

Well, apart from that, do you have any thoughts the rest of the game right now? What do you think about LL's recent case against Alora? What did you think of the early feud between HEM and LL? Please weigh in on the game.

You/Holden townlean

I'm not reading previous games to determine someone's alignment.

The early feud between HEM and LL I do not get.

she lives! Peaches where you been grrrrl?

I will say that peaches not responding when I posted *one minute* after her makes me super okay with her as a day 1 lynch

That was like a straight prodge giving no expansion on two reads that actually needed expansion

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 1.08

LuckyLuciano - (2)

- Yooh, humaneatingmonkey

Aloratom - (3)

- Peaches, Luckyluciano, 3bounty

Peaches - (2)

- InWho22, Kirari Momobami,

Not Voting (2)

- Holdengolden, Aloratom

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-19 06:15:00)

[humaneatingmonkey]

Gotta say Peaches lynch is a waste. I want another opportunity at a replacement.
Kirari, you'd rather lynch the inactive player? How come? You're not scumreading LL or 3bounty?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think I forgot to answer LL on this, and I've seen Kirari mention this.
3bounty and LL I find separately scummy. 3bounty is scummy. LL is scummy. It just makes sense that both can be partners. That's why I'm okay with lynching both. I think it gives me the most information going forward.

[Kirari Momobami]

I actually think 431 is the scummiest post in the game rn

'not understanding' major fights

Unexplained townleans after the point that unexplained townleans are ok

Excuses for not doing meta

It's like... A very wolfy pop-in

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm reading it as a newbie who's not really that into mafia

[humaneatingmonkey]

In all her games, town PR or vanilla, she doesn't really deliver content. Later on, gets replaced.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Oh upon reading more of her games, she DOES have some sort of effort there — even if barely.
She can be an okay lynch if she does not get replaced by the end of the day. I still prefer 3bounty or LL.

[InWho22]

Alright, I'll be reading up tomorrow, so these are just quick thoughts before I sleemp.
Kirari's case against Holden here feels very forced.
HEM's contributions still feel town to me, but I'd still like him to just take a moment and consider a scenario where LL is town.
3b straight up refusing to contribute anymore because "well if he can, I can!" is concerning, to say the least.
Also 3b's voting could seem to just be based on who targets him for a moment. HEM, LL, me and Alo, all people who have shown interest in 3b. I will read through this ISO come tomorrow.
(Also by Floof you mean who? And by pedit do you mean pre-edit? (Also couldn't that just be in the post as normal? (Or am I missing something? (Hm..))))

I think the biggest concern I have with this post is calling my thoughts on holden a 'case' when it barely surpasses a spicy hottake

Yeah, I think I have a hard time reading how serious you actually are most of the time lol.

InWho22 * - neutral
Peaches * notme0 - neutral
LuckyLuciano SeserOneHK - town
3bounty
Aloratom - scum
Yooh * - neutral
Kirari Momobami (SE) - town
humaneatingmonkey (SE) - scum
HoldenGolden (SE) - town

Are Human/LL the scumteam in your eyes or are they just separately scummy?

[InWho22]

@Peaches: If you aren't going to participate, I would recommend you ask for a replacement and find another game when you have the time for it.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Peaches Has Requested Replacement

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Clidd Replaces Peaches.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Oh hell yeah

[clidd]

[clidd]

Game state summary, please ?