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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:33 pm

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Lol vecna is already starting to shade me in his catch up this is a good sign
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 1645, gobbledygook wrote:What pinged about Vecna’s entrance?
How long after replacing in do you know your slot needs salvaging as town?

How long after replacing in do you know your slot needs salvaging as scum?
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:40 pm

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basically the Amished Tell, the first thing scum does when they replace in is ISO themself and see how screwed they are by what predecessor said/did (also to check for any fake claims)

town would do that less, because they know they're town and whatever the person they replaced said was true and genuine regardless of scummy or not

then, a lot of scum think that the best way to cover this is to acknowledge it to come across as town

but then they're acknowledging their predecessor was scummy

it's just yikes all around
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:42 pm

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this

it's definitely not 100% accurate but it's still yikes me when I see it
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:43 pm

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Subject: Newbie 1198: Mafia on Holiday (Game Over)
BBmolla wrote:
In post 148, ThursdayAngel wrote:@BB: What is this "amished tell" you mentioned in the graveyard QT?
It's based off of people replacing into a game and getting a scum PM. What's the first thing you do? Reread your predecessor to see how screwed you are. Town, however, has no reason to reread their predeccesor(generally) as they know they were town so who cares.

The amish tell is whenever someone insults their predecessor, they are scum. This only works when:
A. They've never heard of the amish.
B. It's not part of their playstyle.

Examples:
LGC wrote:Gah. 17 pages in one sitting wasn't great. Should've put this up earlier, guys, apologies for that; got caught by some jobs... From reading the thread, it looks like I'm in deep shit because of Fathom's lurkiness and not adding content.
LostGirlChan, Mafia Goon - Lynched Day One
See here, then here.

Here's an explanation from Amished himself.

Voided can say whatever he wants, I've had pretty good success with it.
for completion sake here's my examples
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:44 pm

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farside replaces Amrun.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 pm

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is this like an all star game or what
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:48 pm

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Continuing catching up

Spoiler:
In post 402, We are not helping wrote:
In post 348, SirCakez wrote:RC is town here
pissing him off is anti-town and I know from experience
as if cakez wasn't obvtown already this sealed it for me.

Cakez and RC are my town duo. Maybe they can write some songs and do a live performance for us at some point.

Also my teammates are bad. They think Mastina is town, they should know better.
Yeah, this slot is town. Fire is -probably- right about cakez, even though im not 100% convinced. Guess this means nearly 100% that all halloween scum is in the lurker fuckers. Boring.
In post 404, Bernadetta wrote:Oh god.
I thought this was a split game but it's actually 2 games merged into one thread.

Classic scum-type entry?
In post 416, We are not helping wrote:
In post 413, Bernadetta wrote:Oh so I only need to find two scum to win!
That means I can be about 50% accurate and
still
win!
I love when odds are in my favor.

But first, I gotta read up all these posts.
And that's already a problem, you see.
don't worry half the game posts are my slot and aren't very long!
or really need to be read unless u like to be entertained.

bitmap is pretty funny.
oka….well he is trying!!!!
Dissing Okapoka...tsssk tssk. EVeryone knows he is carrying this hydra hardcore
In post 433, Bernadetta wrote:I'm a hard working girl so here is my second read:

Baezu feels town to me with her 9 posts and all.

I have doubled my quota for today. I am very productive.
Bernadette also feels town. Damn. Either im wrong, or I think I already Poe'd down halloween to the 2 scum. Ez game?
In post 448, Jingle wrote:
Searching for replacements for
Lie Ren
and
Shuichi Saihara
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All the peeps have returned! (Or at least shown up)
Yeah, so, these 2 slots. They need death
In post 455, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am town
Sircakez is town
We Are Not Helping disproportionately likely to be town
Baezu I do not think comes flying in townreading a bunch of people, that is gonna look pretty not good as scum, so even though the reads are fairly poorly supported I think that she is town in spite of it

Dis where Im at
Thats a good boy, RC. pat-pat
In post 468, Bernadetta wrote:You know I'm having problem sleeping so I was gonna post some more to sleep and then I walked into some Christmas drama.

This marks the second time where I walked in at the wrong time.
Lol, this is so unapologetically bad, it has to be town. Right? riiight.
In post 502, Bernadetta wrote:You know even a tamed beast bites if you test its boundary too much.
It doesnt stop...
In post 523, Wonderwalll wrote:“RC the horse whisperer” we call you
Yeah, this slot feels pretty good
In post 535, Bernadetta wrote:I am being the most productive player in this game.
I should pause so I can give others a chance:)
lmao
In post 536, Bernadetta wrote:It's gonna be like

Someone: "ok time to reread let's read Bernadetta ISO"

Takes 18d6 psychic damage
I have a weakness to reading these slots. Fucking parody type of crap
In post 553, RadiantCowbells wrote:Jormengand so far does not look like town
I get where its coming from, but its the wrong conclusion sadly
In post 560, Trojan Horses wrote:we are not helping is vaguely scummy imo

the way they're approaching rc and nsg feels forced/weird in a way im finding hard to explain

-zeus
More evidence the slot is town. Why take that huge of a chunk as scum, when there were like 4 easy targets in animeduo/my slot/bernadetta posting like all that stuff. Would invite hate from other slots. Attention that is not needed as scum. Slot is absolutely -locktown-. Ill eat a healthy dose of coronapizza if im wrong on this.
In post 604, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Why is there this hate on green tea? Its like a hate on macha and we can't have that,
Pops back in after absence, with this crap. Theres so many bad slots in christmas that I strongly feel we should just win this game by lynching in halloween lol.

Im already confbiassing this slot but.....this is horrible. The reasoning is bad. Cakez isnt great analytically at all. Pointing with justification at Mastina will be interesting if it flips scum. All the takes here are one dimensional and weak.
In post 620, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
(But for real, I'm Cephrir, this is a public alt.)
WUT? its ceph? What world is this. Ok, I dno anymore. That last post was so weak. And it was produced by ceph? Yikes. But also, what?
In post 640, RadiantCowbells wrote:Although

Wonderwell Amrun isn't half bad
Wonderwell is town
In post 645, jjh927 wrote:
In post 637, mastina wrote:
In post 626, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm fine with everyone starting the game by townreading active people but I'm not convinced jormun lie Amrun Elmo is 4 scum right now
Sure isn't!
May I present to you the alternative pool of,

{Jormun, Shuichi, RadiantCowbells, Bernadetta}, {Amrun, northsidegal, Wonderwall}?

Now
that
grouping sure looks like it contains the four scum. I realize it's not exactly four names, two names in two games, that I've got seven total which is two too many in one game, one too many in the other, three too many in total, butstill, I like my pool a lot more.
I like Wonderwall for town. I feel like it's probably a good idea to leave NSG and Amrun for a bit and see what happens with deadlines being very long, because scum! NSG should become more obvious with time and Amrun is just very busy atm as far as I know. So I'm not particularly happy at all with your pools for our game.
I think RC is probably town? He's clearly got this idea of pushing me, but I'm not the type to go crazy when someone baselessly calls me toxic. Would RC double down on it as scum, or continue evading the question that is continuing to be asked and not just by me?
Shuichi can definitely be scum though.
Holy fuck. JJH makes a content post. AND HE ACTUALLY HAS GOOD READS THAT I AGREE WITH? wow. If only that had come earlier. If only there was some explenation I could read into for genuineness?


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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:49 pm

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In post 1651, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1645, gobbledygook wrote:What pinged about Vecna’s entrance?
How long after replacing in do you know your slot needs salvaging as town?

How long after replacing in do you know your slot needs salvaging as scum?
I saw 3 votes on my slot with only 5 required for a hammer, and no other real wagon on halloween?

A replace out that is the likely lynch candidate will usually require salvaging.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 1650, SirCakez wrote:Lol vecna is already starting to shade me in his catch up this is a good sign
I think youre more likely town than scum (63/35 or so by now) but your start was really really shit. The shading was definately deserved. If you dont like my thought process, well, tough titties, but its an honest thought pattern coming from town.

Do with that as you will, n all
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:54 pm

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Vote Count #1.7
Halloween
Christmas
With 9 Alive, it is 5 to Lynch or No Lynch!

Vecna (3): , , ,
SirCakez (1): ,
We are not helping (1): ,
Trojan Horses (1): ,
Baezu (1): ,
Radiant Cowbells (0):
GuyInFreezer (0):
Shuichi Saihara (0):
Lie Ren (0):

Not Voting (2): GuyInFreezer, Vecna,
With 9 Alive, it is 5 to Lynch or No Lynch!

mastina (3): , , ,
Not_Mafia (1):,
Wonderwalll (1):,
jjh (1): ,
Elmo teh AzN (0):
farside (0):
Northsidegal (0):
Gobbledegook (0):
BBMolla (0):

Not Voting (3): jjh, farside, NSG,
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:57 pm

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Why is Elmo in both games on that VC?
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:00 pm

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In post 758, Lie Ren wrote:Nearly forgot about this game. My bad.

I wish this would have two unique threads. I’m not exactly a fan of sifting through games I don’t have to, so having to play around the players I likely won’t be trying to sort is going to be obnoxious.
This slot also did the same scummy ass entrance.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:03 pm

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In post 782, Lie Ren wrote:
In post 74, We are not helping wrote:page 2 read lists are scummy

gobble probably leaning town cause 73

-bitmap
I disagree about early read lists being scummy, specifically regarding Martina. She feels a compulsion no matter what to make a read list in her first 10 or so posts.

By the way I did not quote the wrong post, I just don’t want absolute insanity in this game right now and Trojan Horses is looking to add it.
And....also felt the weird need to defend Mastina doing a readslist

Whether its town or scum mastina flipping, doesnt even really matter too much. Its just such a weird thing to defend. Not even trying to read into the genuineness of the reads. Or the timing.

Just feeling the need to point out "she always does it"
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 803, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 732, Wonderwalll wrote:
In post 724, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think I'm being that cooperative
Maybe cooperative is the wrong word

“Non-conflictual”? Perhaps
It's going to improve everyone's teamwork if we don't start getting testy about anyone not being conflictual enough. I am quite enjoying the vibes we have going right now.
In post 747, Baezu wrote:Honestly, I think I'll be able to figure out the Baker later...

But for the love of God, people, this is town RC
Though I don't necessarily disagree, can you tell me why you're so convinced of this?
In post 783, RadiantCowbells wrote:Here's a spicy take

NSG is just scum and everyone should know that by now

But it feels like cheating for that to be half of our win condition so let's leave her alive
I am not convinced of this, but my only experience is the Team Mafia game. If anything, I was feeling like my ability to townbin her so easily for posting at all felt like cheating.
Cephrir trying to charm her way into people forgetting about lynching her.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:10 pm

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In post 852, Baezu wrote:
In post 791, RadiantCowbells wrote:Baezu help me TR u
How am I to do dis?
Sad to see Baezu couldnt keep up being towny as much as the initial 8 or so posts.

The true halloween scumlist is something like this:

Highest likelyhood:

Lie Ren
Cephrir's alt

---

Baezu

--

SirCakez

The rest is all very obnoxiously town. RC -could- fake it at this level, but I have gotten no whiff of manipulation whatsoever yet (but this always only comes D2 regardless).
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 855, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 838, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shuichi wdyt about Lie Ren
I believe they made one post I thought was town indicative.
This shouldve been questioned further RC
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:11 pm

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Um so I'm having some time constraints irl so I'll hopefully be on gear soon.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:14 pm

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In post 887, BBmolla wrote:mastina/dolittle

there christmas is solved
this feels very possible. That or that replaced slot with corona
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:18 pm

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902, 903, 905 and 907 make the bernadette slot completely locktown as well.

Yep, those 4 names in Halloween is a solve for sure.

Just need cakez to stop being dodgy and get Baezu to go back to towntelling glory.

I REALLY think its ceph and Lie Ren or whatever their silly names are. Do not get at all either how people townread any of the stuff they did. Felt really fake to me.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:19 pm

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In post 917, We are not helping wrote:the horsie: trojan horse is actually my second favorite scum read.

sorry gobbledy, better luck next time.

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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:20 pm

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Vecna super obv town lol
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:22 pm

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In post 947, SirCakez wrote:wonderwall shading me is cracking me up
Cakez does really love the buzzwords all the time. Any scumread is automatically shading. Do not like
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:23 pm

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Bitmap: did you answer my question?
If not, can you now?
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:24 pm

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are scum sure they dont want to just forfeit this game
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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