Newbie 1992 | Game Over

[clidd]

NOOOO, UNVOTE

[clidd]

YOUR IDIOT, UNVOTE SHE'LL HAMMER

[clidd]

WORD, UNVOTE

[clidd]

With 3 alive it's 2 to lynch

[clidd]

Well, I hope she hasn't visited the topic yet.

[Maduisha]

I don't get your point, then... first you call attention at Clidd's skills as a player to gather town cred and then you tell me he was actually just lucky? Unless I'm misunderstanding. I'm sorry, it's past midnight and my cognitive abilities are reduced...

I am overwhelmed by the excess of info on clidd. Things may seem juggled together. The point is:

1. An action having a lot of effort behind it is never an indicator, on clidds case, of it being or not towny. Instead, an action should be judged by the likeness of scum taking it, wich includes the benefits of it as scum, weighted with the likeness of taking it as town, weighted by the benefits of town in the perspective of the rest of the players. Both can make sense at the same time, but the important thing is if one makes more sense than the other in a given situation (if it highly benefits scum, and "just" could be town, then for me that is pretty much sl)

2. How come luck plays a part in any of this? No scum is god. No scum (most of the time) develop a rigid plan from D1 to be followed and resolved on the last day. On the contrary, scum plays with the flow. You can plant suspicion. U can give a motive to being alive. U can try cleaning certain perceptions, etc. U can come D1, plant a wifom and kill the player who would have killed u. What I say is that along the different days he played the best way he can from a scum point of view with what he had at hand.

1. I guess you could see like that, but that's entirely wifom. As in... you have to end up taking a choice. The wine in front of you is poisoned, or the person who poisoned the wine put it in front of themselves. Is town!Clidd genuinely making this effort, or did he lay an elaborate trap? Both things are plausible and considering his trajectory during the game, I'm inclined to believe the most likely scenario (Clidd preparing a case when he expects to be alive) is the correct one.

2. The luck bit was me ignoring that your phrase continued in the following post. I apologize.

[word321]

I know. Im quite suriprised u dnt rly suspect me that much. And cap locks I guess.

[clidd]

You're stupid, if she were scum, she would've flash hammered.

[Maduisha]

VOTE: Clidd

Sorry, guys.

[Karnage]

Vote Count 4.2

clidd (2) ~

word321, Maduisha,

~LYNCH~

Not voting (1) ~

clidd

With 3 alive it's 2 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-04-21 17:30:00)

V/LA:

None

[Karnage]

Game Over

clidd was lynched day 4. They were a

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

[Karnage]

Mafia Wins!

Congratulations to

Maduisha

and

Marashu

(Mafia Goons)

[Karnage]

Links

• Game Thread
  
• Mod PT
  
• Mafia PT
  
• Mason PT
  
• Dead thread

mod note

Mafia and Mason PTs will be released in (expired on 2020-04-15 18:26:05)

[Karnage]

mod note

The thread is now open to all for post game discussion.

[clidd]

[word321]

Didnt see that coming, for sure

[word321]

Congratulations mad, gg

[word321]

Im actually having problems blving everything u said was actually meant, but it was

[clidd]

You can never vote like that on lylo. If your pov is wrong, the scum player can immediately hammer and win the game.

[Hectic]

[Datisi]

Damn, gg.

[Maduisha]

Well played guys. I can't believe GWu, Datisi and Clidd at last minute were the only ones to see I wasn't actually helping at all. Well played, anyway. When you read the mafia PT you'll see how paranoid I was of this being 100% defeat simply because I was alive on the last day.

I was absolutely terrified of Datisi all game, you'll see.

And I want to congratulate Marashu, who did a cool job throwing everyone off with wifom and made all the night kill choices. He had to bear my nonsense too, that's rough.

[word321]

Well, to not be seriously suspected until the last day by the mass is an accomplish by itself. Well played.
And well played to Marashu too, while I'm at it.

[word321]

And I guess sorry clidd. Everything fitted in my head. Although I tried my best.

[Datisi]

I was absolutely terrified of Datisi all game, you'll see.

While I am pretty disappointed in my play at times in this game, I'm gonna take this as a compliment. Good game!