Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[springlullaby]

The only reason my wagon is flying now is by apathy.

[Farkset]

@Ame, from my understanding, you can't be vigged.

This day needs to stop ASAP.
I see nothing good coming out of it.

lol hey, you can selfvote if you want to end the day quickly. We have already decided on what perk to activate, we have already validated quest success, the only thing left to decide is who to capture. If you are truly a voyeur and genuinely believe we are fishing and the day is taking a turn for the worse, you should take the block.

This is not a trap, i don't want you to trick you into selfvoting or say you're survivalistic afterwards - i mean, you have already demonstrated that you are by voting day end when you were the main wagon instead of trying to assess where is scum on your wagon - just saying that you can.

-Farkran

pedit: sure, i have zero case on you, except roughly half of my ISO

pedit2: yes, apathy - this game is definitely driven by apathy, with a 33 pages d1

[Farkset]

I kinda feel sorry for Pine because i think he's town and i actually wanted to see him play, but this is pretty much literally the opposite of apathy.

-Farkran

[springlullaby]

Farkscum is trying to drawn out the thread with spam.

Their bullshit reasons has been debunked multiple times, by multiple people.

More bullshit from Farkscum:

> Off course I'm "survivalistic, I'm town. And a PR.
> If "survivalistic" was a valid argument, then by by their own logic Farkset should vote themselves to prove that they are town.

Another instance of the bullshit that permeates their entire ISO.

[springlullaby]

I kinda feel sorry for Pine because i think he's town and i actually wanted to see him play, but this is pretty much literally the opposite of apathy.

-Farkran

Buddy up more scum, when you have been drowning this thread with bullshit.

[Farkset]

The dichotomy isn't described by that last sentence - i mean, those would be the scummy people who interacted poorly around spring. The true dichotomy is wk vs attack, and those can be sorted by spring flip.

I think he's saying it'll be easier to spot scum either TMIing her as town, or chainsaw defending her if we have a flip, and not that he's assuming everyone around her is doing one of the two. By examining those with "poor interactions" with her. Eh, I don't think it'll be "easier", but we'll know which if the two to look for I guess.

This is correct - including the "not so easier" part. However, do you (@Ame) disagree that the town is fractured around springlullaby and that we can clearly identify those who are protecting her and those who are attacking her? Have you been wondering why? I find it hard to believe there are reasons so extreme to lean springlullaby town as to see people willing to end the day instead of capturing - anyone, not just springlullaby - just to save her. Just as it is weird to me to see people advocating for springlullaby as a quest leader. It's an unbelievable level of confidence at this point in time, but you are also part of these people and i wonder if i have been missing something, because i don't particularly scumread you, if i take you independently of springlullaby.

-Farkran

[springlullaby]

^Lol

[Farkset]

Cop: Hectic
Vig: momo
Neighborize: mastina

I'd like a followup on this, the story was interesting

-Farkran

sure

Cop hectic because I'm pretty much buddied up to him rn for his story thing and i'm going to have a hard time voting him

vig momoo policy, i person cant stan playing with him

neighborize mastina because in a PT we can do anything and id do anything to have have a pt with mastina

Why the bolded? Momo hasn't posted much, why do you believe he is unpleasant?

Also what would you do in a hood with mastina?

-Farkran

[springlullaby]

^Oh look, FARKSCUM want to fish some more about vig mechanics.

[Farkset]

Farkscum is trying to drawn out the thread with spam.

Excuse me?

-Farkran

[springlullaby]

Am I accused of spamming? I do not spam because I post content.

I am also forced to defend myself against all the bullshit Fakscum is spewing.

[Farkset]

^Yeah no to teen titan.

BTW, Hectic is faking a tunnel now.

I haven't seen that before.

like john henry tunneling or

Don't know who that is.

^Oh look, FARKSCUM want to fish some more about vig mechanics.

Now tell me that spring says all of that unironically and has no self awareness.
~ker

[Farkset]

quote button glitched - ignore random quotes, i am referring to his recent posts
~ker

[springlullaby]

^ Farkscum points out 2 post telling people I do not wish to engage in fluff + 1 post where I'm warning people against fishing.

= Another great meaningless bullshit post that occupy a great deal of space.

Tell me Farkscum, if you are against spam as you said, why don't you stop?

[springlullaby]

quote button glitched - ignore random quotes, i am referring to his recent posts
~ker

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

[springlullaby]

BTW farscum is only faking town tunnel, I've done it tons of times.

[Farkset]

^ Farkscum points out 2 post telling people I do not wish to engage in fluff + 1 post where I'm warning people against fishing.

= Another great meaningless bullshit post that occupy a great deal of space.

Tell me Farkscum, if you are against spam as you said, why don't you stop?

As far as i can see you are the one, who called out us for spam and now you posts like hahahah. Also

BTW farscum is only faking town tunnel, I've done it tons of times.

you are being tunneled here as your recent posts are clearly only yelling about us.

You fake being jester. There is no way to be seriously that much blind.
~ker

[springlullaby]

Lol, not only a jester, which is a meh read to begin with, but a FAKE jester.

I'll decrypt the scum-split in that slot:

* Farkan: thinks I'm an easy target due to early votes on me, so they pull a bullshit case on me (Farkan is IIRC the 4th vote on me, after a lot of coaching Hectic in that direction).
* Kerset: has been wary early, because they see my join date, (they indicated that they think I'm a jester here), but now is not sure they want to proceed with capture.

How do I reach that conclusion:

1) Why guessing at a jester alignment is scummy:

>Town rarely guess at jester because town starting presumption, especially in a game where the OP indicates 3 scum+town, is that the enemy is scum.
>Now scum, on the other hand, guess jester more often because their starting presumption on other people is that they are town, so what they fear is not scum, but something else that they are not aware of and could be a threat to them.

2) And why kerset guessing

fake

jester is scummy now do you ask?

Because it shows inconsistency of logic that is scum-sided.

> I claimed a PR: why would a jester want to claim a PR?
> The logical conclusion to be drawn would be either PR or Scum if you are town
> But here, kerset accuses me of being a

fake

jester which makes no sense at all (which should be good reason enough to scumread the FARSCUM slot as scum btw)
> Unless they are sucm, and simply want to, as previously cited, throw bullshit around to justify their vote while remaining consistent with their early read

[Hectic]

V/LA until the 24th

. I'll still be trying to read and contribute when I can.

[springlullaby]

^ Kerset is the anxious half of that slot and is pussyfooting around to try to fish some more.
The preoccupation on his mind displayed here is whether I'm a threat to scum that they haven't figured out.

[Farkset]

Are you even aware that this game is confirmed to have no third-party? You act like person, who wants to have no credibility, makes intentional mistakes, contradictions, only suspect people who suspect you and most of the time shitpost by repeating yourself. Only jester would benefit from strategy like this but such thing doesn't exist here, so fake being one.
~your beloved kerset

[springlullaby]

Are you even aware that this game is confirmed to have no third-party? You act like person, who wants to have no credibility, makes intentional mistakes, contradictions, only suspect people who suspect you and most of the time shitpost by repeating yourself. Only jester would benefit from strategy like this but such thing doesn't exist here, so fake being one.
~your beloved kerset

The one person who said there was a jester in game, in the quote below, accuses me of not knowing that there is no third party in this game.

Spring gives me jester vibes :S His actions seems to be staged with some self awareness.
~ ker

Can we capture FARSCUM yet?
I mean, they will only claim something completely crappy, but that as close as you get to confirmed scum without a flip.

[springlullaby]

HURT: FARKSRAN

[Lady Chloe]

springlullaby and Farkset,

May you both kindly

quiet down

?

It is hard enough to filter this game with 2/3 top three posters argue and bicker for pages on end, but for you both to assume I and other players pick sides is a scum-motivation or scum-favored tactic on both of you.

I'm speaking to you, Farkran, who deem Ame and I as potential associatives to potential springlullably-scum without even consulting our opinions of her, which is an easy excuse for you.
I'm speaking to you, springlullaby, because your voting is inconsistent and it's difficult to navigate where you want this day to go, you calling for my opinion is dismissive of what I try to tell you.

If you both believe the other is scum, then drop the conversation, and negotiate with other players.

This goes nowhere.

[springlullaby]

^
What do you want to tell me?