So I should not think about the scenario you're town, is what I'm getting from this.In post 5049, Something_Smart wrote:I would very much not like to think about the scenario where you are town.In post 5047, Eddie Cane wrote:Humor me. If I am town, what scum team is possible, then?
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I mean that's probably why NSG said Nero should check PP anyway?In post 5048, Something_Smart wrote:Nero should check PP or nsg, it doesn't matter which, unless PP is a scum multitasking fruit vendor doctor (shoutout to Boon and Vorkuta ).
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In other words, we'll cross that bridge when if we come to it. Obviously if you do flip town I will reread your posts today in that light.In post 5049, Something_Smart wrote:
I would very much not like to think about the scenario where you are town.In post 5047, Eddie Cane wrote:Humor me. If I am town, what scum team is possible, then?
But, you're also part of the problem when it comes to pushing that there's one scum in me/Nero.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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That doesn't follow?In post 5050, Eddie Cane wrote:So I should not think about the scenario you're town, is what I'm getting from this.
I will still be able to read your posts after you are dead.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Yes. I am indicating my assent.In post 5051, Luna Fox wrote:I mean that's probably why NSG said Nero should check PP anyway?
Nothing new here.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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I am somebody who always considers every player short of mod confirmed IC. I am asking you what world I should consider with you and Nero town, and you said "I don't want to consider the world where you are town". I am town. Hence the humor me.In post 5053, Something_Smart wrote:
That doesn't follow?In post 5050, Eddie Cane wrote:So I should not think about the scenario you're town, is what I'm getting from this.
I will still be able to read your posts after you are dead."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Eddie Cane
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I actually think I have a new solve formulating, but it depends on the reply to that."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Something_Smart
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Fine.
If you're town, Alchemist and nsg are probably not teamed because of Alchemist immediately jumping in and calling her obvtown, and trusting that read plus the vanilla check makes her more likely town. If Nero checks PP, he probably dies if town, and in that case Alch/PP would be my best bet.
For obvious reasons, I don't want to say exactly what I'd do if Nero doesn't die and claims an innocent or guilty result on PP.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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I am considering you about as lock scum as if you are town you are probably considering me, right now."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Eddie Cane
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@Alch @NSG @Luna @NeroHere's what I think the right play today is.
Lynch SS as Alch said.
If SS flips scum, Nero can check who he thinks is scummier in myself and PP. It doesn't matter which and does not need to be decided today.
If SS flips town, Nero should actually checkAlchemist. A claimed green check is equivalent to a claimed red check on me, with more information."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Something_Smart
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I mean here's the thing.
There is a non-negligible chance that you are town. I don't believe straight-up throwing the game is out of Boon's townrange, unfortunately.
But I'm perfectly fine with losing in those scenarios, because that's stupid. It's not worth giving scum-you a chance to talk your way out of it. And I know at some tables you'd be able to do that.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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And if I am town, should I not also be trying to talk my way out of it? If you are town, you have done many things this game that make you the person I am most likely going to ask to be lynched when I flip town over Nero at this point, and if you are town and are looking to consider, I am willing to work through them. I think its very unlikely I do not want your lynch to happen today, though.In post 5060, Something_Smart wrote:I mean here's the thing.
There is a non-negligible chance that you are town. I don't believe straight-up throwing the game is out of Boon's townrange, unfortunately.
But I'm perfectly fine with losing in those scenarios, because that's stupid. It's not worth giving scum-you a chance to talk your way out of it. And I know at some tables you'd be able to do that.
For the record, if you are town and do lose in those scenarios, you do not get to put all of the blame on Boon. You made the decision to not evaluate me. Boon is largely responsible for the loss in those worlds, but not entirely."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Something_Smart
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You should, but you should also be accepting that it's utterly terrible play for anyone to let you live today.In post 5062, Eddie Cane wrote:And if I am town, should I not also be trying to talk my way out of it?
Like, mechanics > reads, always. That's a rule I see broken frequently and almost never in town's favor.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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In post 5061, Something_Smart wrote:It is absolutely ridiculous from any POV, including your own, to lynch me before you.
Not only is it not ridiculous, its pretty much the opposite. You can't even push me in a world with Nero which I think could be why scum!you would be saying you think both you and Nero could be town.In post 5010, Alchemist21 wrote:2 assumptions to work with here:
- 1 scum is in Nero/SS
- Nero and Eddie are never scum together.
Lynching SS today solves the game if the assumptions are correct. If he flips Town then Nero is scum and Penguin is the partner. If SS flips scum then Nero is Town and we can lynch in the order of Penguin/Eddie and for sure hit the remaining partner.
If everyone agrees on those assumptions then SS should be the lynch today.
And the mechanics are that Boon claimed a check on both Oka and you before I berated him and he switched to me, so the guilty doesn't even have to be real. The mechanics are that there is very likely one scum at least in the PR claims. The mechanics are that you could have softed role cop once you knew gunsmiths were in the game so you would have a response if one claimed a guilty on you. The mechanics are that I can't be with Nero because of reads (this is valid despite how weird it sounds), so you are a better lynch from my and every other townie's point of view. I understand what you are saying, but you are also one of the people strongest pushing Boon with me yesterday after he claimed it, so you are clearly purporting that his claim was not believable - because itIn post 5063, Something_Smart wrote:
You should, but you should also be accepting that it's utterly terrible play for anyone to let you live today.In post 5062, Eddie Cane wrote:And if I am town, should I not also be trying to talk my way out of it?
Like, mechanics > reads, always. That's a rule I see broken frequently and almost never in town's favor.wason a town."Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"- Alchemist21
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Regardless of alignment I think SS really is a role cop because it loons like Clidd crumbed it as well.In post 52, clidd wrote:robocop- Something_Smart
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The mechanics are that Boon did not retract his claim after he was hammered.In post 5064, Eddie Cane wrote:And the mechanics are that Boon claimed a check on both Oka and you before I berated him and he switched to me, so the guilty doesn't even have to be real. The mechanics are that there is very likely one scum at least in the PR claims. The mechanics are that you could have softed role cop once you knew gunsmiths were in the game so you would have a response if one claimed a guilty on you. The mechanics are that I can't be with Nero because of reads (this is valid despite how weird it sounds), so you are a better lynch from my and every other townie's point of view. I understand what you are saying, but you are also one of the people strongest pushing Boon with me yesterday after he claimed it, so you are clearly purporting that his claim was not believable - because it was on a town.
If it is a gambit, there is no reason not to do that.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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despite me saying SS is scum this is a false dichotomy. I know im not scum and even though I think SS is scum it's not impossible he's town.In post 5010, Alchemist21 wrote:1 scum is in Nero/SS
So damned if I do damned if I don't? Why does it have to be a bus? I mean why is it impossible that I'm just town with a guilty? Why do you think I'll get a guilty b4 I checked him?In post 5020, Alchemist21 wrote:Nero/SS would still need to be resolved today though because there’s still the possibility of scum Nero bussing PenguinOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Town has too much power if you’re both Town.In post 5070, Nero Cain wrote:
despite me saying SS is scum this is a false dichotomy. I know im not scum and even though I think SS is scum it's not impossible he's town.In post 5010, Alchemist21 wrote:1 scum is in Nero/SS
So damned if I do damned if I don't? Why does it have to be a bus? I mean why is it impossible that I'm just town with a guilty? Why do you think I'll get a guilty b4 I checked him?[/quote]In post 5020, Alchemist21 wrote:Nero/SS would still need to be resolved today though because there’s still the possibility of scum Nero bussing Penguin
This was me thinking about worst case scenario if you check Penguin. This was about the scenario where Town Eddie flips leaving 2 scum in a pool of you/SS/Penguin. Either way you would have to claim a guilty there because if you’re Town then you’re the only Town slot in that trio and it wouldn’t help figure out who last scum is between you/SS.- Something_Smart
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How can you say this without knowing how much power scum has?In post 5071, Alchemist21 wrote:Town has too much power if you’re both Town.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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