Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don't you ask Nancy if she gets this feeling from me as a hydra?
I don't see where I said I don't care about other reads if they conflict with mine. Is this about my scumreading Sushi while NSG "hard townreads" (she doesn't) him?

This is literally something you said a long time ago then we had a fight over it and then we stopped playing together.

[farside]

Why is TH making work for people?

???

Your asking for meta reads from cakez.
Do you think his reads are wrong? You may have said what your reads are but i dont recall so would you mind saying who your scum reading?

[Trojan Horses]

I mean auros other heads are townreading Ceph and he's voting Ceph anyway.

Oh sorry.

I need to sleep more. Doh.

I haven’t read over half the game and unless Auro and I are vehemently disagreeing on a read, I won’t adamantly oppose it.

Like we both hardtown read Mastina and nsg for example.

But I have a much stronger read on Ren then he does.

I am obviously open to opinions that contradict ours.

[Trojan Horses]

Why don't you ask Nancy if she gets this feeling from me as a hydra?
I don't see where I said I don't care about other reads if they conflict with mine. Is this about my scumreading Sushi while NSG "hard townreads" (she doesn't) him?

This is literally something you said a long time ago then we had a fight over it and then we stopped playing together.

I don't recall. I know I'm pretty stubborn, but at least now I give credence to others' reads. Only that I assign a lot of weight to the soundness of the cases. With Nancy in hydras I've just let her veto stuff before.

I thought we fought over a scumread on me for not doing much when I was Michael Scott in that rapier game.

But, yeah, I try

-Stuxnet

[Trojan Horses]

Auro in his own words doesn't care about other people's reads if they conflict with his own.

Why don't you ask Nancy if she gets this feeling from me as a hydra?
I don't see where I said I don't care about other reads if they conflict with mine. Is this about my scumreading Sushi while NSG "hard townreads" (she doesn't) him?

Why is TH making work for people?

???

You're asking people to link stuff. I don't see any problem with it.

-Stuxnet

@RC, I would not hydra with anyone who completely disregarded my opinions or reads. I think you would know that from your experience hydraing with me.

@Farside, what exactly is your issue with that?

[Trojan Horses]

I mean auros other heads are townreading Ceph and he's voting Ceph anyway.

Also this is false lol
I haven't voted Ceph
SirFakez asked me who I'd *want* to vote for and I said Ceph - I'm entitled to a personal opinion.

This feels similar to when people asked me for more reasons on my SirFakez scumread and I gave them and suddenly got attacked on a bunch of fronts

-Stuxnet

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok sorry

You've pushed for Vecna votes

You are not currently voting them

Happy

[Trojan Horses]

Why is TH making work for people?

???

Your asking for meta reads from cakez.
Do you think his reads are wrong? You may have said what your reads are but i dont recall so would you mind saying who your scum reading?

I asked both Vecna and Cakez to link one of their scumgames. What is your issue with that?

[Trojan Horses]

You've pushed for Vecna votes

You are not currently voting them

Yes, because I changed my read on Vecna between the point I was pushing for votes (which was pre replacement IIRC) and right now - why exactly is that problematic?

-Stuxnet

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry what I meant to say was

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem

[Trojan Horses]

Fyi, farside, I’m not currently tr you. I trust that answers your question.

[Trojan Horses]

Sorry what I meant to say was

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem

RC, I’m not currently sr him but it’s not a strong read. For me, it’s more a question of PoE and at least some of that is based off of meta.

[Trojan Horses]

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem

Nancy has only read half the game. I told her my concerns about Sushi earlier. She said Ceph's play feels different from Apocalypse (the last game we faced scum!Ceph in). I mentioned that he's roleplaying a detective character which will likely alter his meta. She acknowledged this.

I'll add that Nancy and I do have read disparities a few times and we're OK with it. We have slightly different approaches to the game. As Nancy stated, she's fine with me pushing wherever - if she thinks I'm tunneling obvtown she'd tell me and I'll stop. She knows this is my style, though.

Sky is barely invested in the game. I don't recall her reads on Sushi. I would say it's outdated anyway.

-Stuxnet

[SirCakez]

Why is TH making work for people?

cuz Auro hates me lol

I mean auros other heads are townreading Ceph and he's voting Ceph anyway.

Also this is false lol
I haven't voted Ceph
SirFakez asked me who I'd *want* to vote for and I said Ceph - I'm entitled to a personal opinion.

This feels similar to when people asked me for more reasons on my SirFakez scumread and I gave them and suddenly got attacked on a bunch of fronts

-Stuxnet

why am I SirFakez?

[Shuichi Saihara]

ok why not push the wagon there then? Vecna is already on there. Rn I don't really feel like you're doing anything to push the lynch away from Vecna to Shuichi if that's what you want.
(no this is not some sort of subtle attempt to get you to unvote me)

Would you vote Sushi with me?

There are ways to push the lynch off someone that aren't "push someone else" including appeals to spend more time in the game, summarize reasoning which I can argue against, etc.

-Stuxnet

Why don't you care that one of your heads is townreading me

I think this is like the second time in this game, your comment on one of our posts made no sense and didn’t even reference you.

uhhhhh can you not read or

Auro didn’t mention RC anywhere in this post.

...what the fuck does RC have to do with anything that was just said

[Shuichi Saihara]

Sorry what I meant to say was

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem

RC, I’m not currently sr him but it’s not a strong read. For me, it’s more a question of PoE and at least some of that is based off of meta.

I don't know where you're getting all this Ceph meta from. We don't have an extensive history or anything.

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem

Nancy has only read half the game. I told her my concerns about Sushi earlier. She said Ceph's play feels different from Apocalypse (the last game we faced scum!Ceph in). I mentioned that he's roleplaying a detective character which will likely alter his meta. She acknowledged this.

I'll add that Nancy and I do have read disparities a few times and we're OK with it. We have slightly different approaches to the game. As Nancy stated, she's fine with me pushing wherever - if she thinks I'm tunneling obvtown she'd tell me and I'll stop. She knows this is my style, though.

Sky is barely invested in the game. I don't recall her reads on Sushi. I would say it's outdated anyway.

-Stuxnet

I don't even know what game apocalypse is

[Shuichi Saihara]

also my "rp"/character has been really not happening for about 50 pages now but i'm hoping to get back into it when i stop hating everything

[Trojan Horses]

cuz Auro hates me lol

Although I know you're joking, I'll just say again: It's never personal, I like you as a player and did like you in Excalibur (although my vague memory is that you were a lot more aggro there?) where we played together last

I use shitty nicknames for everyone if I get a chance!

It makes it harder to ctrl+f for associations in my ISO

@Sushi: it's that large Krazy game where you replaced Dann afair

-Stuxnet

[Shuichi Saihara]

oh, that game i replaced into late

even though you're getting townpoints for me out of it i feel compelled to point out that a game i only played a third of might not be the greatest choice for meta

[Trojan Horses]

even though you're getting townpoints for me out of it i feel compelled to point out that a game i only played a third of might not be the greatest choice for meta

Seemed like a basic playstyle comparison from Nancy.
That's Nancy's read btw and not mine.

-Stuxnet

[SirCakez]

cuz Auro hates me lol

Although I know you're joking, I'll just say again: It's never personal, I like you as a player and did like you in Excalibur (although my vague memory is that you were a lot more aggro there?) where we played together last

I use shitty nicknames for everyone if I get a chance!

It makes it harder to ctrl+f for associations in my ISO

@Sushi: it's that large Krazy game where you replaced Dann afair

-Stuxnet

I know I'm just joshing you back haha
I don't even remember Excalibur honestly...at the time I was extremely busy with work and the game was an afterthought which is probably why I don't remember it lol
I was more aggro in general in my past. I think I've grown more empathetic and less angry during my break.

[SirCakez]

tbh I can't name any specific games for Ceph meta I just have this conception of him as a player in my head and I'm sticking to it!

[Shuichi Saihara]

idk i think in general you need a lot of games to have decent meta at all
and that might be hard to accomplish with me
way back in the day my meta was trying hard to look town/actually caring about the game = scum
then i spent a couple years subverting that on purpose
now i barely play anymore and i have no idea what i'm doing or what paradigm would make sense

[gobbledygook]

RC

[gobbledygook]

You need to out your neighbor to me, if at all possible.