Mini 2134 Gin's Joint Pick4U - GAME OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

Working on reading rn

I thought we'd have $2? We start the game with $1 and then earn another dollar at the beginning of the day.
...
You guys better buy a lot of death sticks.

I also thought the rules suggested we start with 2

We should all be accountable for where our points are going this game

There are powers like Vig and Ninja in the black market, and if you had enough points to buy one of those and we need to lynch one of those and you can't show what you spent your points on, you should be lynched

Eavesdropper is a half provable role if it lets you spy on neighborhoods, bp isn't but there's only 1 of those

Spiked kool-aid, I don't know what that does, we shouldn't all rush to buy it until some inquisitive soul decides to buy it (and explain what it is, which is important since it shows where their points went for later, and lets us decide whether we want to avoid it or what.

So IMO, if spiked kool-aid is something that makes your points unaccountable, we shouldn't tolerate people buying it

Probably.

Also, I've already bought the Kool-Aid.

Cheers!

So have you said what it does yet?

VOTE: enter
you know what I think PB slipped Enter is scum because in my hood he greated Enter but he didn't post

Wouldn't you vote Pink Ball first?

I like Bulba’s point here, however townpoints to Ali for this observation

[Gamma Emerald]

I s2g I don’t have time for your bullshit Enter
I wasn’t trying to use my mental health as leverage, I just wanted to bring up that this game has fucked me up in the past. And like the fact you keep going back to “He SkImMeD tHrEe PaGeS” tells me you have no real basis for treating me this way and are just feeling cornered.

Like, I started playing with what I had to work with at the time and what did you do? Call me stupid for pushing you without full info, rather than idk,

attempt to inform me what I was missing

? Actually, on that note, what

did

I miss? What makes you so obviously town? If you can present a functional reason right now I’ll drop this tirade.

Also stop with the fucking slanderous rhetoric.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes and mastina is also a mason with herself remember that

No, no, a masonizer who wins when my masonry has majority of the playerlist.



(At this stage tho. I kinda suspect Ginngie and I have this unique interaction. I submit trollish picks that are basically unrelated to the theme of the UPick but which

technically

could be considered to be following the letter of the UPick but are obviously in violation of the spirit, Ginngie decides, "okay you cheeky little fuck, you get to be a third party this game". My picks were masturbation--the role I got--, mafiascum, coffee, and estrogen.)

But for real. This time, there are no downsides to the town letting me win. Explicitly, the words used are, "This does not end the game.". (It doesn't say I leave the game, so not sure if I leave the game or not.)

Okay now I’m confused

Did you clarify later you wouldn’t leave because I recall hearing that you wouldn’t leave and when you won you would townside

That’s the main basis for me sticking by you rn

[Enter]

I s2g I don’t have time for your bullshit Enter
I wasn’t trying to use my mental health as leverage, I just wanted to bring up that this game has fucked me up in the past. And like the fact you keep going back to “He SkImMeD tHrEe PaGeS” tells me you have no real basis for treating me this way and are just feeling cornered.

The fact that you seem to think that it's ridiculous for any one player to call someone out for trying to gladiate someone after only skimming three pages, the fact that you think that it's ok to behave like you did and ridiculous for anyone to call you out on it should just make you reread what you just wrote and maybe check yourself against reality, because you've really fucking missed it.

Like, I started playing with what I had to work with at the time and what did you do? Call me stupid for pushing you without full info,

like it's completely boggling to me that you don't realize how ridiculous it is that you are not only doing this, but trying to push it as normal or acceptable

[Quoterather than idk,

attempt to inform me what I was missing

? [/Quote]
Wait. Your solution to you not reading the thread is that I should give you more posts to read?

You cant read the game yourself and you didn't ask me for help, instead you come after me as scum, and your expectation is that I try and explain to a player who has just shown they have no interest in trusting me and no capacity for reading for themselves, who is insisting on putting words in my mouth, what it is that they are missing?

Actually, on that note, what

did

I miss? What makes you so obviously town? If you can present a functional reason right now I’ll drop this tirade.

You having this tantrum right now only makes you look more and more ridiculous. The more you respond to me the more I can get out my anger at you. I am in no way scared of anything you have to say about my alignment, I'm just fed up with your garbage. The longer you tirade, the more I get to respond to it and I get to feel better about saying all the things I want to say to you but couldn't if you'd just stop posting entitled bullshit.

Also stop with the fucking slanderous rhetoric.

Once again, you have displayed the very facet that you seem to try to hold against me.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mod, will you just tell us what spiked Kool-Aid does if we just asked you?

You get tipsy.

What the fuck is “tipsy”?

if you incentivize your wincon by saying “only town need to masterbate” then scum are going to do so as well to blend in

Yes well I don't lose if "town masturbate and scum also masturbate", so that's not my problem. It does mean that scum can blend in and prevent being outed when I win, but if scum refuse to masturbate and I win, then they be outed and you can use that info, so like. Win-win if you're town and masturbate.

Yes this
The longer the remaining town delay the more chance scum gets to blend in
Also doubt mastina is faking the “only town” part because that messes with the game after she wins, and I don’t think she’d bother to do that

That's called lying. In the context of a Mafia game, it's fakeclaiming. I'm not an arsonist. I just start random fires in peoples' houses sometimes.

This is disingenuous as fuck and you fucking know it.

If I am a nontown player who is claiming to be town, and I claim the town version of my role, I am lying about my alignment but not my role.

Serial killer->vig is that shift. Disloyal Scum Gladiator->Loyal Town Gladiator is that shift.
Those aren't fucking lies and you wouldn't fucking call them lies.

You don't call a mafia roleblocker claiming to be a town roleblocker a liar, do you?
Then you don't fucking call a serial killer claiming to be a vig a liar.

I’d call that “fakeclaiming your real role”.

dumb is a really aesthetic word if you look into it

It’s kinda...

not

. The word in its roots is kinda ableist.

[Taly]

wait are you fucking kidding me

i blew my 1$ on the spiked koolaid because i overlooked

bulb's

post about it making you tipsy?

thats some bullshit

[Taly]

GE

-

Enter

timeout.

you guys have been going at it for 2+ pages and nothing is resolved

ill read the past few pages soon, but i keep seeing your guys' avi continually and the tone is strong

[Taly]

also, i think it was

dunn's

post that i skipped and i read something along the lines that

mastina

is BP?

can someone please clarify this?

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn’t try to thunderdome you until you’d already set the tone of our interactions. As I see it I may not be acting right but yours the one who goddamn started this.

How is me trying to play the game with partial information such a motherfucking crime against humanity? Would you rather I just continue to do jack shit? I attempted to get into the game and in return you are assaulting me.

I would have appreciated it if you told me

which

posts to look at. Instead you get upset that I have the

gall

to push you when I haven’t read the entire game. Constructive criticism goes a long way and you don’t seem to get that.

Now, since you clearly have no reason for you to be obvtown, mind telling me what’s so stupid about me pushing you? Like, you could have provided examples of how you were not doing what I called you out for (saying useless things that hurt the situation) but you just shot me down.

Also the rhetoric I take issue with is the “entitled parent” imagery. Make your point but leave that out, it’s obnoxious, slanderous, and bloats your fucking posts.

[Enter]

I didn’t try to thunderdome you until you’d already set the tone of our interactions.

No, you set the tone with your opening three posts.

as I see it I may not be acting right but yours the one who goddamn started this.

You can see it however you want but if you mess with a bear cub, the mother doesn't give two shits how you feel you should be treated.

How is me trying to play the game with partial information such a motherfucking crime against humanity? Would you rather I just continue to do jack shit? I attempted to get into the game and in return you are assaulting me.

You didn't try to get more information, you tried to act on what little you had. You didn't try to fix yourself, you tried to blame everyone else for your shit not being ok.

I would have appreciated it if you told me

which

posts to look at. Instead you get upset that I have the

gall

to push you when I haven’t read the entire game. Constructive criticism goes a long way and you don’t seem to get that.

Acting like my response to your behavior was ridiculous doesn't make it ridiculous. You want some constructive criticism? Stop playing mafia. Every game you've been in that I've seen you've exclusively claimed to be V/LA, made excuses for garbage play, and blamed everyone else for your own unreasonable expectations for everyone else.

Now, since you clearly have no reason for you to be obvtown, mind telling me what’s so stupid about me pushing you? Like, you could have provided examples of how you were not doing what I called you out for (saying useless things that hurt the situation) but you just shot me down.

Read your posts again and then ask yourself how you would expect anyone else to respond or read them. Then tell me what sort of response you find reasonable.

Also the rhetoric I take issue with is the “entitled parent” imagery. Make your point but leave that out, it’s obnoxious, slanderous, and bloats your fucking posts.

What does "bloats your posts" even mean? Quit acting like a fucking child if you don't want to be treated like one.

[Enter]

Your attitude is the equivalent of walking up and taking someone's shit from their house. Then when they come after you with the police, you say that you think that it's ridiculous to expect that everyone know you don't take people's items out of their homes, that it's absurd to expect you to know every rule in it's entirety. Then when the person you stole from tries to calm down, you attack them and tell them you think that they never deserved to have that shit in the first place, that they had better let you have their shit because if they don't you'll fight them on it. And when they take you to jail, you exclaim that some constructive criticism would be nice, that your mental health has been declining, and that they're the ones who started this

[Enter]

Your attitude is the equivalent of walking up and taking someone's shit from their house. Then when they come after you with the police, you say that you think that it's ridiculous to expect that everyone know you don't take people's items out of their homes, that it's absurd to expect you to know every rule in it's entirety. Then when the person you stole from tries to calm down, you attack them and tell them you think that they never deserved to have that shit in the first place, that they had better let you have their shit because if they don't you'll fight them on it. And when they take you to jail, you exclaim that some constructive criticism would be nice, that your mental health has been declining, and that they're the ones who started this

I didn't even get everything in this post because of how many absolutely absurd responses you've had here.

[Ginngie]

Don't be a jerkass

Insult plays, not players. smoke a doobie

[Gamma Emerald]

GE

-

Enter

timeout.

you guys have been going at it for 2+ pages and nothing is resolved

ill read the past few pages soon, but i keep seeing your guys' avi continually and the tone is strong

I’m trying to not let Enter keep me from being able to focus on the game rn, but ugh he seems dedicated to making this game absolute hell for me

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ve read a bit of this game and I’m TERRIFIED tbh

Putting up a safety V/LA until the 17th because my next few days could be turbulent and I don’t want to get replaced accidentally

I have two post restrictions.

I would like to eb shot in the face until dead.

Not in the gmae, just.... in real life.

Can we kill Mastina for bneig claimed not town, then kill pine for being scum.

Eehtr order is fine, but Mastina feels more pressing because hltonesy fuck magical mystery powers in a bastard game.

Opened the thread to see this, has LLD claimed her pick because it’s p obvious to me

Is this what you mean by “my opening three posts”?

[Enter]

GE

-

Enter

timeout.

you guys have been going at it for 2+ pages and nothing is resolved

ill read the past few pages soon, but i keep seeing your guys' avi continually and the tone is strong

I’m trying to not let Enter keep me from being able to focus on the game rn, but ugh he seems dedicated to making this game absolute hell for me

Ah yes. It is I who is coming after you!
I entered the thread and started making claims about you to distract you from reading the thread (which is also something I want you to achieve, also according to you)!
Gamma Emerald, the player I have played with twice before (maybe more?), and my arch-nemesis! There is nothing that I fear more than you having an enjoyable game of mafia! I am physically restraining you from reading any portion of the game, and it is I who aggressively pursues interaction with you without having anywhere near a workable set of information!
Everything is about you, Gamma Emerald! I admit that this is somewhat contradictory to the latticework of reasoning I have constructed in my manifesto about the destruction of your happiness, but I will admit that there is no action you can take (or not take) that completely refutes my plan! You are not, in fact, responsible for the outcomes of your actions! I would have come after you regardless of whether or not you threatened to come after me or made ill-informed claims in the thread about me!
I have been called out! Caught! There is nothing more for me to do but WEEP at the knowledge that I have been defeated, my every maneuver countered, and beg that you do this one thing for me; Do not actually read the game, Gamma Emerald, and try to participate in good faith like a normal player! Do not leave me alone here and whatever you do, please do not stop trying to antagonize me and then blame me for what you've done and continue to do! I could not handle that, not in the slightest!

[Enter]

I’ve read a bit of this game and I’m TERRIFIED tbh

Putting up a safety V/LA until the 17th because my next few days could be turbulent and I don’t want to get replaced accidentally

I have two post restrictions.

I would like to eb shot in the face until dead.

Not in the gmae, just.... in real life.

Can we kill Mastina for bneig claimed not town, then kill pine for being scum.

Eehtr order is fine, but Mastina feels more pressing because hltonesy fuck magical mystery powers in a bastard game.

Opened the thread to see this, has LLD claimed her pick because it’s p obvious to me

Is this what you mean by “my opening three posts”?

Not the three posts you opened the thread with overall, but the three posts you opened the thread with yesterday:

Spoiler:

I recognize and agree that MariaR and Pine could very easily be scum

Why is Alisae not mentioned?

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

Let me rephrase:

Enter, why are you saying things that act helpful but contribute nothing overall?

[Enter]

and not really even 519, more 531 than that.

[Gamma Emerald]

You know what, go fuck yourself. And be very careful if you join another game with me because I’ll be watching you.

[Enter]

You know what, go fuck yourself.

Same to you!

And be very careful if you join another game with me because I’ll be watching you.

The same way I should step down, because you'll step up?

[Enter]

How about just don't join games w/ me in it?

Or just don't do really stupid shit?

[Enter]

Or just don't join games in general if your mental health is a risk or you can't support actually participating?

[Taly]

ok yeah I need to +1 :EFFORT: here

Enter

, do not demoralize

Gamma

based on his activity and mentality, it's not that deep and you're adding more storm to the game than you seek to relinquish from calling it out regardless of your alignments.

Gamma

, take a breath and don't bring this to a more emotional note than necessary, if you have an issue then take it up privately preferably with mod, mafia is not worth that type of stress and replying to

Enter

on this has already proven to be fruitless.

I think well about both of you but despite how justified you both feel, the two of you need to change your approach here ASAP. Don't worry if the other doesn't because we've got a moderator for a reason - and because there's 11 more eyes in this thread and 11 other takes on what's happening right now - so don't feel dis-empowered because you feel alone. Realize that you have the ability to change a situation before it devolves.

[Pink Ball]

Fruitless????? You're a toucan dude what is this inconsistency

[Taly]

since im a thiq bitch, ive been on a predominantly water diet for awhile now to slim up



also bananas make me gassy