Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[Paragon]

oh wait, he was 1-shot, right?

Also, this is a really fake slip. He's trying to show he can't have been thinking about nightkills because he'd know a detail like that.

[Paragon]

So, the moment people actually try and acknowledge my viewpoints this game - the thread concludes that regardless of my alignment, I'm always a problem to town's win here. Everything that's been posted about me today have been misrepresentations.

I hate how this playerlist has interacted with me. If I'm the game's final mislynch then put me out of my fucking misery.

People didn't listen to me D1 and people aren't listening to me now.

S_S, Eye, Alo;

I'm sorry. You guys deserved better from me and a better playerlist.

This is actually really scummy. If you believe Something_Smart, eyestott, and Alorarom are all town with you like you're suggesting in the last line, you have absolutely nothing to fear about Churros/Battle Mage/I talking about voting you. You should be trying to convince the people you think are town to vote Battle Mage; not talking about how you're going to be the game's final mislynch because who you think is the scumteam all look like they're going to vote you.

Perspective slip!

Remember this. It really makes no sense for town!Taly to make this post if he believes everyone scumreading him is scum, and everyone else that aren't scumreading him is town.

[Taly]

or maybe im just tired of getting frustrated this game and am not focusing too hard on details?

[Churros]

1 mafia goon
1 mafia rolecop
1-shot vig
1-shot novice gunsmith
2-shot bulletproof
7 VTs


is townsided.

I actually can kinda see RC designing this setup btw. I'm not really eliminating aloratom as potential scum yet.

But yeah, what you say roughly makes sense.

[Taly]

So, the moment people actually try and acknowledge my viewpoints this game - the thread concludes that regardless of my alignment, I'm always a problem to town's win here. Everything that's been posted about me today have been misrepresentations.

I hate how this playerlist has interacted with me. If I'm the game's final mislynch then put me out of my fucking misery.

People didn't listen to me D1 and people aren't listening to me now.

S_S, Eye, Alo;

I'm sorry. You guys deserved better from me and a better playerlist.

This is actually really scummy. If you believe Something_Smart, eyestott, and Alorarom are all town with you like you're suggesting in the last line, you have absolutely nothing to fear about Churros/Battle Mage/I talking about voting you. You should be trying to convince the people you think are town to vote Battle Mage; not talking about how you're going to be the game's final mislynch because who you think is the scumteam all look like they're going to vote you.

Perspective slip!

Remember this. It really makes no sense for town!Taly to make this post if he believes everyone scumreading him is scum, and everyone else that aren't scumreading him is town.

untrue, i scumread only

you and BM

at the time of this post, the only person treating this slot as solid town was

S_S

, who i was not completely solid on at the time of the post.

[Taly]

paragon

, when you say

eye

is always scum but you wait for his claim, you're always placing yourself in an advantageous position to discredit whatever

eye

has to say regardless of his or your alignment.

if you're going to completely block any question I throw your way 2352 off this pretense, then that conveys you're less concerned on surveying all players in good faith for lylo and more about capitalizing on a lynch.

your play is dangerous if town and predictable if scum.

[Paragon]

untrue, i scumread only

you and BM

at the time of this post, the only person treating this slot as solid town was

S_S

, who i was not completely solid on at the time of the post.

Still, you were apologising to Something_Smart, Aloratom, and eyestott as if they were town, and that you would be mislynched by 2 people you thought were scum, and Churros (who must be the third scum if you believe the first 3 are town). All 3 of those players had townlean/reads on you.

[Paragon]

Sure, you can paint reasons for why scum!me would enter the day like that, but I've given the reasons for why I actually did which are very logical as town.

I don't see a question in 2352.

[Taly]

untrue, i scumread only

you and BM

at the time of this post, the only person treating this slot as solid town was

S_S

, who i was not completely solid on at the time of the post.

Still, you were apologising to Something_Smart, Aloratom, and eyestott as if they were town, and that you would be mislynched by 2 people you thought were scum, and Churros (who must be the third scum if you believe the first 3 are town). All 3 of those players had townlean/reads on you.

because i believed they were

(Alo/S_S/Eye)

were all town and they've actually responded to my points throughout this game in decent faith despite not agreeing with them?

and not really,

alo

was rethinking the read,

S_S

wasn't following my wallposts to well, and

eye

had a

"temporary"

townread on me, since he stated that he

"he didn't want my lynch today"

[Taly]

Sure, you can paint reasons for why scum!me would enter the day like that, but I've given the reasons for why I actually did which are very logical as town.

I don't see a question in 2352.

2452.... you know what post im talking about because it's not even hours old...

[Taly]

also,

Paragon

, what happened to

Churros-Taly

is more likely scumteam if it's not

BM

-scum?

how did this shift to

eye-Taly

when

churros

entered the thread and proclaimed that he didn't believe

eye's

claim anyhow?

[Taly]

You went from

"let's wait to hear from

eye

"

to

"

Taly-eye

are scum"

moments into

Churros'

debut.

Talking about reads and who scumreads who allows eyestott to claim a more optimal fake-check in the event that he's scum, Taly.

We wait for the check first.

Hello.

im up to chat

Fine. eyestott is always scum here and is partner is almost certainly Taly. 2035 spews Aloratom as town; I never should've doubted that townread. Ungated neopolitan is not reasonable for a 12 player game with 2 scum; not even close.

I townread you and scumread Taly, so my this game is solved in my mind. The reason I wanted to wait is because eyestott trying to 1v1 someone could've potentially TMIed them as town if he thought he had any chance of winning a 1v1.

[Taly]

i hate quotes

But Churros..........................................................

this replaces the third quote above.

[Paragon]

also,

Paragon

, what happened to

Churros-Taly

is more likely scumteam if it's not

BM

-scum?

how did this shift to

eye-Taly

when

churros

entered the thread and proclaimed that he didn't believe

eye's

claim anyhow?

If there were 3 scum, Churros-Taly would both have to be scum since there wasn't a quickhammer yesterday. I've never considered the team outside of mechanical reasons.

Talk to me

Paragon

,

Want to tell me the reasons why

Eye

,

Churros

, and

Aloratom

would want to NK

S_S

?

You and eyestott killed him because eyestott is essentially confirmed scum, which means it's not Churros + Something_Smart, which means Something_Smart is confirmed town.

[Churros]

Right now I'm in either [Taly, Eyesott] or [Aloratom, Paragon] as a team in a holistic sense for this game to make sense, but the latter doesn't add up with my reads or the claims, so at best I'm now in [Eyesott, Aloratom] if I'm to consider Taly town for any reason.

[Eyesott, Paragon] feels unlikely with Paragon's opening but I should later check his trajectory in eyesott just in case.

I'm not sure if you pitching against each other is productive right now Paragon/Taly. There's two universes possible here:

1) At least one of you is scum. (most likely tbh)

2) Both of you're town and Aloratom is scum.

If it's universe #1 sure, that's the way we should go.

But if it's in any possibility universe #2, collectively looking at Aloratom before we go to sort between you is the unique way we ever win here, because after clogging up the thread with this 1v1 for god knows how long, not even I am going to have the ENORMOUS mental strength necessary to check for a team that doesn't include either of you. It's already quite hard to do it before entering that rabbit hole, and that's exactly what a [Eyesott, Aloratom] team would be going for today.

I'm not convinced yet it's never universe #2.

[Taly]

Anyone there? I wanna take the opportunity of having free time and real-time chat with someone. Especially Taly.

I'm going to be considering this as only a 2-man team since if it's actually 2-man + traitor the game was kind of over already yesterday and it was a mod mistake to let today happen at all.

and when

churros

wanted to converse with me, you deliberately filter the thread with reasons you scumread me:

So, the moment people actually try and acknowledge my viewpoints this game - the thread concludes that regardless of my alignment, I'm always a problem to town's win here. Everything that's been posted about me today have been misrepresentations.

I hate how this playerlist has interacted with me. If I'm the game's final mislynch then put me out of my fucking misery.

People didn't listen to me D1 and people aren't listening to me now.

S_S, Eye, Alo;

I'm sorry. You guys deserved better from me and a better playerlist.

This is actually really scummy. If you believe Something_Smart, eyestott, and Alorarom are all town with you like you're suggesting in the last line, you have absolutely nothing to fear about Churros/Battle Mage/I talking about voting you. You should be trying to convince the people you think are town to vote Battle Mage; not talking about how you're going to be the game's final mislynch because who you think is the scumteam all look like they're going to vote you.

Perspective slip!

Remember this. It really makes no sense for town!Taly to make this post if he believes everyone scumreading him is scum, and everyone else that aren't scumreading him is town.

oh wait, he was 1-shot, right?

Also, this is a really fake slip. He's trying to show he can't have been thinking about nightkills because he'd know a detail like that.

Sure, you can paint reasons for why scum!me would enter the day like that, but I've given the reasons for why I actually did which are very logical as town.

I don't see a question in 2352.

You deliberately try to shut me down before I am able to speak my viewpoints, here.

[Taly]

But if it's in any possibility universe #2, collectively looking at Aloratom before we go to sort between you is the unique way we ever win here, because after clogging up the thread with this 1v1 for god knows how long, not even I am going to have the ENORMOUS mental strength necessary to check for a team that doesn't include either of you. It's already quite hard to do it before entering that rabbit hole, and that's exactly what a [Eyesott, Aloratom] team would be going for today.

I'm not convinced yet it's never universe #2.

i like this approach, im not doing Round 3 of

Taly V Paragon

while the thread ignores it.

[Paragon]

I got impatient. I'm fairly confident in this solve and you all were discussing reads anyway.

Churros is right, and you're doing that thing again where you're attacking me from every possible direction you can find. I admire the fact that you have the energy for it but it's exhausting for me to clarify/address every little thing you pick out, so I'm disengaging for now.

[Taly]

I got impatient. I'm fairly confident in this solve and you all were discussing reads anyway.

Churros is right,

and you're doing that thing again where you're attacking me from every possible direction you can find.

I admire the fact that you have the energy for it but it's exhausting for me to clarify/address every little thing you pick out, so I'm disengaging for now.

excuse me?

[Taly]

fuck it, it's not worth it anymore.

[Taly]

man, i must be reading an entirely different game than the entire playerlist.

[Churros]

Ok

if I had to describe Aloratom in one word to me in this game, it would probably be tofu.

Tofu is kinda tasteless to me; it doesn't taste great, it doesn't taste bad.

I'm not a fan of Tofu though.

I feel like most of Aloratom posts are wordy but doesn't reach any real conclusion/statement in the end.

For instance he flaked on me for ages almost as if see'ing if I would be mislynchable or not in the game.

I remember Taly saying he felt Aloratom was a genuine solver in this game because they were engaging their walls, but do you think that replying to questions asked to the public is town-indicative Taly?

Do you think effort (and that's not much effort at all in this case), is that town-indicative?

[Churros]

Paragon from you I don't really want an analysis, I find myself agree'ing with some of your conclusions but not much on how you got there.

Can you point me top 2 reasons Aloratom is so confidently town for you?

[Taly]

Ok

if I had to describe Aloratom in one word to me in this game, it would probably be tofu.

Tofu is kinda tasteless to me; it doesn't taste great, it doesn't taste bad.

I'm not a fan of Tofu though.

I feel like most of Aloratom posts are wordy but doesn't reach any real conclusion/statement in the end.

For instance he flaked on me for ages almost as if see'ing if I would be mislynchable or not in the game.

I remember Taly saying he felt Aloratom was a genuine solver in this game because they were engaging their walls, but do you think that replying to questions asked to the public is town-indicative Taly?

Do you think effort (and that's not much effort at all in this case), is that town-indicative?

at the time yes, i dont see walls come from scum often, and i townread him because his reads felt genuine - at least in the context that he'd entertain multiple options and outline his opinions... i felt like he had more substance when interacting with any points i made this game compared to other slots, and ive been sorting other people that pinged me more than to critically assess him further.

[Churros]

For instance as well, because I can barely deal with this game anymore, I think it would be a more interesting solving between you guys, if you take a look at each other Aloratom's read, because if one of you is scum, it means that one of those reads is fake. Another reason I'm going for that route first.

I feel like it would be more productive and less energy consuming than the standard version of that as well.