Newbie 1996: GAME OVER

[LuckyLuciano]

My god

Present.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Will town!LL really start an unlikely-to-happen lynch against me at literally 2 days before deadline?
Or is scum!LL trying to distract us from a lynch that he doesn't like?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Third option, is scum!LL trying to distance himself from a mislynch?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Re-reading the thread felt like a chore earlier, but now it just feels like torture. Thanks for that.

[LuckyLuciano]

Will town!LL really start an unlikely-to-happen lynch against me at literally 2 days before deadline?
Or is scum!LL trying to distract us from a lynch that he doesn't like?

I'm not pushing you today. Please rewind and begin again.

[LuckyLuciano]

Monkey, if I lie and say that I won't push you tomorrow if Alo flips red, will you vote Alo today?

[humaneatingmonkey]

You're voting for me, dummy

[clidd]

I don't generally look at timestamps unless I need to, and any misinterpretation is why I ask questions. We cleared up the first two, and I think we're clearing this one also. I didn't realize that a night had passed before your vote, only that Humane had asked you about it. But it doesn't look good that you changed your vote just to appease someone else.

In this post, he makes reference to post 135, rebuking the attitude of the exchange of votes, but without really analyzing what could have caused this. I feel that his behavior of commenting in several directions, without engaging deeply in the subject, is an attitude of dispersing attention, which in my opinion, is a

scummy

instance. Posts 129 and 130 are examples of this.

This raises the question, who is he dispersing attention from?

Repeat the sentence, but in English

I think you can figure it out.

The context is basically Monkey not understanding the wording of post 187, but showing it in a somewhat rude way, causing a negative reaction of ignorance on the part of Aloratom. I believe that

Scum!Aloratom

, in this situation, would have been able to reformulate the phrase that Monkey did not understand, in order not to attract so much attention. His ignorance, however, indicates a nuisance quite similar to when someone is offended, in the sense that perhaps post 188 was interpreted as a "debauchery" of Aloratom's written ability. Which, for me, is compatible with the scenario

Town!Aloratom

interpreting 188 as something offensive and closing the communication channel. If Monkey had not explained in post 200 the reason why he did not understand, it is very likely that the apology in post 203 would not happen. I feel that there was some towny *empathy* after he noticed that Monkey is a foreigner.

Monkey was referring to 187. It may just be me, but I feel that Alo's thoughts are far clearer in that particular post than many of his others. What do you think?

Is empathy unique to town players?

1. Hard to say, he engaged with many players in parallel. It is likely that he interacted with his partner in the meantime with a "camouflage" mentality in the

Scum!Aloratom

scenario.

2. Hum, if you're referring to 187, I didn't understand what he meant in that post (I'm also a foreigner, just like Monkey). Perhaps it is something easier for natives to interpret.

3. Empathy is something that, in my experience, usually manifests itself most in townspeople. I saw scums trying to emulate that feeling, but most of the time it felt forced, lifeless.

[LuckyLuciano]

You're voting for me, dummy

No I'm...

Spoiler:

UNVOTE: Kirari
VOTE: Monkey

Alright, so basically the point I'm making is Alo looks like hella scum, and Monkey looks like either his partner or the worst townie ever.

I believe that for the level of inconsistency the order of lynch would be Aloratom>Monkey in your pov.

However, I'm still not convinced that Monkey is scum (we can argue that later). In any case, wouldn't it be more logical to lynch Aloratom first ?

With Alora flipping scum, you have your confirmation about Monkey, haven't you ?

Alright, so basically the point I'm making is Alo looks like hella scum, and Monkey looks like either his partner or the worst townie ever.

I believe that for the level of inconsistency the order of lynch would be Aloratom>Monkey in your pov.

However, I'm still not convinced that Monkey is scum (we can argue that later). In any case, wouldn't it be more logical to lynch Aloratom first ?

With Alora flipping scum, you have your confirmation about Monkey, haven't you ?

My vote is on Aloratom, no?

Will town!LL really start an unlikely-to-happen lynch against me at literally 2 days before deadline?
Or is scum!LL trying to distract us from a lynch that he doesn't like?

I'm not pushing you today. Please rewind and begin again.

... Well, at least you are right about me being a dummy.

UNVOTE: Monkey
VOTE: Alo

[LuckyLuciano]

Now that we're all on the same page, do you wanna help us lynch Alo, Monkey?

[LuckyLuciano]

Does somebody want to update the vote count? I'm apparently not very good at that.

[clidd]

According to my memory, I didn't see Yooh unvoting or voting anyone else than Luciano. Who22 and Monkey voted on 3Bounty, me and Luciano voted on Aloratom and Holden voted on Kirari (i guess).

Something like this:

Luciano -> 1 (Yooh)
3bounty -> 2 (Who, Monkey)
Aloratom -> 2 (LL, Clidd)
Kirari -> 1 (Holden)

[humaneatingmonkey]

Gamestate is: Both Alo and 3b is on L-1. 4 people are willing to vote on Alo (Holden, LL, Clidd, 3b), 4 people are willing to vote on 3b (Monkey, Holden, Alo, Who22). Kirari, Yooh, and Holden are the swing votes. Holden prefers either a 3b or an Alo lynch. Yooh would not prefer to lynch both 3b and Alo. Kirari has kept vague about her desired lynches.

Yooh, Holden, and Kirari should weigh in so we can get a final candidate to get a claim and a lynch from.

If I have enough time, I would start a wagon on Kirari. I don't think I currently have enough willpower to sustain that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think both are good polar candidates. Both wagons provide three days worth of content for us to analyze. Both wagons have generated enough interaction with players to make things AI. Both players have only offered so much in content that I don't think it would be much of a loss to lynch either.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Unless... Kirari interest check, anyone? Wanna cram a third candidate in it?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm only willing to do this if there's already interest. Otherwise, I don't really have the energy to push it.

[Kirari Momobami]

I think I'd lynch alo over 3b atm but I'm not sure. He's asking a lot more questions this game than the one where he was scum but I'm not totally certain they have led to good places. I wouldn't mind seeing just where he is at this point tbh. Statistically both of these wagons are more likely to both be on town than one be on scum I think but that is often the case day 1

Pedit: atm I don't know who my counter-proposal would ne. Resolving 3b/alo is probably good for gamestate even if it's a mislynch

[Kirari Momobami]

I actually like most of yooh's recent posting but he's not a bad flex spot for scum just off activity. I don't think I'm even kinda interested in pushing there day 1 tho

[LuckyLuciano]

I think both are good polar candidates. Both wagons provide three days worth of content for us to analyze. Both wagons have generated enough interaction with players to make things AI. Both players have only offered so much in content that I don't think it would be much of a loss to lynch either.

I have a hard time associating this post with an interest check on Kirari, and a hard time associating an interest check on Kirari with the lack of an interest check on me. Can you help me understand here by laying out your thoughts a bit more for me?

[Aloratom]

Unless... Kirari interest check, anyone? Wanna cram a third candidate in it?

A third candidate? Yes.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

[humaneatingmonkey]

Because I'm now considering if you're town. Surprise.
I'll do an ISO on Kirari today.

[HoldenGolden]

I take one exam and suddenly the thread grows roughly by 33%

Welp there goes me relaxing this evening

I'll read and attempt to catch up with my burnt brain.

In terms of today's lynch, I'm fine settling with Alo/3b. I think both have some equity for scum with a personal preference for 3b, yet at the time of writing this I'm struggling to remember what Alo has done this game. I would prefer kirari, but I feel the other two would reveal more.

Pedit: yeah just a lot of people just posted so sure. Stop posting and let me press submit in peace

[humaneatingmonkey]

To be clear Alo, you're not willing to vote 3b anymore? This is important because I'm trying to move the game to a state where we can get a claim going and still have time to think about it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I take one exam and suddenly the thread grows roughly by 33%

Welp there goes me relaxing this evening

I'll read and attempt to catch up with my burnt brain.

In terms of today's lynch, I'm fine settling with Alo/3b. I think both have some equity for scum with a personal preference for 3b, yet at the time of writing this I'm struggling to remember what Alo has done this game. I would prefer kirari, but I feel the other two would reveal more.

Pedit: yeah just a lot of people just posted so sure. Stop posting and let me press submit in peace

ikr it's downright annoying

[LuckyLuciano]

Because I'm now considering if you're town. Surprise.
I'll do an ISO on Kirari today.

Why?