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[Paragon]

A message from Something_Smart:



He thought Taly was town and was suspecting Aloratom towards the end, which is something the hivemind is currently discussing.

Aloratom town:
2035
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His reaction to my fake post restriction and Conspire shenanigans, and scumreading me for it.

[Churros]

I think if Aloratom is town, scum definitely gave him an easy, roughly too-easy TR because he was a slot that wasn't under any chances of getting lynched through the entire game. It's exactly that kind of slot that you give a TR as scum because it doesn't get in the way of your wincon at the same time it make it look like you're having progression in your reads.

If he's scum we kinda just suck tbh.

Anyway Aloratom, do you yourself agree with the above?

p-edit: gonna read that on a second

[eyestott]

Paragon is vanilla townie.

[Churros]

Really useful result

What are your reads eyesott?

[eyestott]

Paragon. I’m town. Please believe me. I swear on my life I’m not trying to dupe you.

[Paragon]

Really useful result

What are your reads eyesott?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

If you're scum, you played really well this game, eyestott. Your early genuineness and transparency really fooled me, but I was townreading your personality lol

P-edit: I don't understand how your role can exist in game with 2 scum, eyestott.

[Paragon]

Okay, there is one scenario I haven't considered actually.

• 1 mafia goon
  
• 1 mafia PR
  
• 1 town neopolitan
  
• 1 town 1-shot vig
  
• 8 VTs

Taly and Churros are scum in this case. But even this setup seems really townsided.

[Paragon]

Talk to me, eyestott. Talk about who you think is scum, and why you decided to go for me over Aloratom/Something_Smart at the end.

[Churros]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

What do you think?

By the way I'm gonna repeat myself:

What are your reads eyesott?

[Taly]

so what?

Churros-Taly

is the scumteam now because

Eyestott

said you were VT?

what happened to

eye-taly

scumteam when you were still waiting for their claim?

i genuinely dont understand your read progression

paragon

[Churros]

Ok I gotta go sleep and when I come back I'm giving points to whoever points out something that's obviously wrong in the last page and it's only going to be more obviously wrong after the next posts.

[Paragon]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

What do you think?

No, because you think only 1 of us are scum?

Pedit: Taly, I'm considering stuff. Please stop putting words into my mouth.

[Taly]

fine, ill back off entirely.

[Churros]

No, because you think only 1 of us are scum?

I'm gonna be succint, If you're town it's really short-sighted to not see an obvious problem with that claimed target.

More later.

[Paragon]

No, because you think only 1 of us are scum?

I'm gonna be succint, If you're town it's really short-sighted to not see an obvious problem with that claimed target.

More later.

I don't understand.

I still think eyestott is scum. I don't see why his claim changes anything other than creating WIFOM.

[Taly]

I want to hear

Eye's

reads, too.

[Churros]

At the moment I do think you're town Paragon.

I'm also assuming that the name "Paragon" comes from an intent from you to get better at town games.

Think hard about what town!Eyesott should have thought when he went into night 3 and what he would have considered when choosing his target if he was town.

[Taly]

Eye

, why didn't you try to confirm

Churros'

claim was correct?

It would've been very easy for

Churros

-scum to fake a claim altogether and then NK

S_S

So why was

Para

the best target here? He already claimed VT.

[Taly]

Also, I want a better answer on why you wanted - only me - to claim specifically D3.

You had a non-VT result, but why didn't you survey the opportunity of pushing a case on me to help sort me, or if you thought I genuinely was a Town PR, why did you want me to out my claim in the beginning?

[Paragon]

At the moment I do think you're town Paragon.

I'm also assuming that the name "Paragon" comes from an intent from you to get better at town games.

Think hard about what town!Eyesott should have thought when he went into night 3 and what he would have considered when choosing his target if he was town.

You are correct! Also, I thought the name would be funny.

If eyestott is town, Churros + Something_Smart could be a potential team, so he could check Something_Smart to verify that isn't the case. The problem with that though is that him/Something_Smart are the likely nightkills, so it's a good possibility that Something_Smart is dead if he's alive, and the check would be wasted.

I... can't think of anything else.

[Churros]

Eh, I would go sleep but Taly pretty much fingered it already so...

Eyesott's claiming having targeted Paragon to me is literally a scum claim even though I didn't need one, but it can be a scum claim from a 3rd pov as well.

When we went into night we had already talked about the fact that one of the PRs are probably lying if it was just 2p, and I particularly fingered quite clearly that there is possible no way two investigatives could exist if it was a 2-man team.

There is also this from yesterday:

I'm not sure who out of Churros/Alo is scum

I suppose. But Tone-wise, he still seems towny to me.

How do you feel about a Churros lynch? obviously not too eager?

P-edit:I’d be potentially willing to explore that, but not until the massclaim is done.

He clearly didn't trust me at all, and the number one thing in his mind with those reads should be checking me. It was quite literally the unique believable target he could have had in N3. To a lesser degree you could even excuse it being Alo because of the "I'm not sure who between Alo/Churros is scum", but Paragon is the last person he should be worried about checking. The fact he ignored me either implies he unconsciously already accepts my role as the truth and didn't even gave it thought when claiming, or that he's afraid of facing the dichtonomy between me/him because he's clearly the weaker link here, always the one getting lynched in a 1v1.

That target never comes from town!Eyesott if anyone had any doubts until now.

[Paragon]

But Churros, eyestott checks for vanilla townies. He'd get a negative on you regardless of your alignment.

[Churros]

I don't think that's how "Neapolitan" presumably works Paragon.

I'm gonna check it tomorrow, too late right now.

[Paragon]

It checks for Vanilla Townies.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neapolitan

[Paragon]

Interested to hear what your interpretation of it was, and why.