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Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:30 am

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In post 2623, eyestott wrote:I must say, it feel kind of freeing that this game is out of my hands now
I see what you're doing here but yeah, mood.
In post 2624, eyestott wrote:But can I go to bed? It’s 3:30am now eek
Yeah, I probably should get back to working properly before the boss shows up anyway
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Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:32 am

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Churros, let’s just stop making digs at eachother, okay? Like, keep the votes and don’t move em, but truce?
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Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:37 am

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In post 2611, Churros wrote:ok gotta go now for real

Taly where is your mind at?
im settling on
eye/alo
as scum but i still want to look at
Alo
interactive-wise, the
alo
scumread is mostly because his reply to
eye's
claim is far less excusable than
para's


i still want to ISO so my mind is clear come D5 and because the gamestate has become into 4 people pulling
para
into 4 different directions, so im taking t

i think you're the scum mislynch because
eye
wanted a reason to doubt your claim, so he could get away with pushing you without checking up, or so he thought.

and because
para
openly entertained a
Taly/Churros
time alternative to
BM
scum.

yeah, this game feels solved, but i need ALL of town to be on the same page, so i must put in the legwork and see if this narrative fits with
alo/para's
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Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:38 am

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In post 2627, Taly wrote:i still want to ISO so my mind is clear come D5 and because the gamestate has become into 4 people pulling para into 4 different directions, so im taking
initiative on solving to counteract this
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Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:03 am

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Oh boy, everyone's acting weird now.

Churros, I'm assuming you were saying it's one from {eyestott, Churros}, and one from {Aloratom, Taly}, correct?

Churros' 180 on Taly is alarming, but it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective either, since he could continue pushing Taly + eyestott as a team while also securing eyestott's mislynch for the win.

My independent scumread on Taly remains, as does my townread on Aloratom. Frankly, eyestott and Aloratom don't strike me as the kind of players to enter this day phase with a confident SvS interaction and fake slips like the way they've done here. I actually don't think it's likely to be the two together, and as a result it means Taly is the best lynch here from my point of view. The team is:

Taly + eyestott OR
Taly + Churros

eyestott + Churros is never a thing because two town investigatives isn't balanced for a 12 player game with 2 scum. popsofctown and Something_Smart have been adamant about this in the hivemind, and they know their setups and EV balancing.

ALSO
Assuming we lynch Taly and he flips scum here, I die tonight as virtue of being confirmed by eyestott (since I can no longer be in a team with him), and eyestott checks Aloratom tonight. Essentially forcing eyestott to either 1v1 with Aloratom by guilty-ing him, or a 1v1 with Churros by getting an innocent on him. This means, at worst, we have a 50% chance of winning tomorrow.

Anyway, don't worry; I won't be making any hasty decisions, but yeah, I want to vote for Taly today. I'm still gonna do another full reread through Aloratom and Taly's ISO's before putting that vote down.
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Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:06 am

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In post 2345, Taly wrote:
In post 2343, Paragon wrote:Taly, you realise as town you lose if either of Battle Mage or I are town now? Voting me is strictly worse than Battle Mage, so I don't believe your thought process if you care so much about winning.
so what?

eye/alo
is the mastermind team?

and why do you and
BM
keep saying
"YOU REALIZE AS TOWN"
?

Makes it sound like you believe I'm town, more than I am scum... so why are you voting me?
What changed your mind on the ridiculousness of eyestott + Aloratom being the team?

Why can't it be Churros + Aloratom, with eyestott as the designated mislynch?
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Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:09 am

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In post 2630, Paragon wrote:
In post 2345, Taly wrote:
In post 2343, Paragon wrote:Taly, you realise as town you lose if either of Battle Mage or I are town now? Voting me is strictly worse than Battle Mage, so I don't believe your thought process if you care so much about winning.
so what?

eye/alo
is the mastermind team?

and why do you and
BM
keep saying
"YOU REALIZE AS TOWN"
?

Makes it sound like you believe I'm town, more than I am scum... so why are you voting me?
What changed your mind on the ridiculousness of eyestott + Aloratom being the team?

Why can't it be Churros + Aloratom, with eyestott as the designated mislynch?
Reread my posts about
eyestott
and how he used his claimed PR....

and my reply to
Alo's
entrance....
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Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:21 am

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Also, as scum, I would sooner flake than have
Blake/S_S
be NKs and my partner didn't plan to hard-bus me afterward.

I've made horrible strategic errors if I'm scum in this game. This isn't even a WIFOM argument anymore.
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Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:23 am

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If you were scum, who would kill over Blake Belladonna and Something_Smart on those respective nights?
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Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:23 am

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*who would you kill
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Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:30 am

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In post 2633, Paragon wrote:If you were scum, who would kill over Blake Belladonna and Something_Smart on those respective nights?
Alo/eye
because
Blake
said they were both potential scum... do you need to me dig up this post?

S_S
because he literally said as the final D3 post that if he dies -
eye
must be scum - and yeah, that could be WIFOM, but in light of the claimed results? Doubt it.

Also, why do I kill the only 2 people that have faithfully townread me this entire game? It doesn't make any sense.\

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Paragon wrote:*who would you kill
Churros
would've been the N1 kill from me for obvious reasons, if not someone else.

N2, you or
Churros
- depending on if he were alive. Killing you would've given validity to
Blake's
reads, and I would've much more easily sided with her reads and viewpoint D2 if I were scum.
S_S
would've given me a free ticket supposing his
"BOP
Blake
"
strategy.

N3, both of you would be dead for certain. If not, I am not sure who else.

You two literally have been at odds the most with my perspective this game. No amount of
"WIFOM"
defense I could muster would counteract the likelihood of one of you lynching me late-game had you survived.

I just don't play this riskily as scum.
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Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:31 am

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If I were scum, I should've had my partner voting me right now.
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Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:33 am

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Also, D3 was such a huge pain in the ass, if I were that bothered as scum, I would've flaked or just not have been active in the thread.

I wouldn't have faked all-caps raging as much as I did because I genuinely do not want to cross the boundary of a rule or break friendships, I would not stoop that low as a performance to people I know who are town.
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Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:35 am

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You can still refute me with the argument of
"
Taly
is self-aware as scum"


but like what
Blake/S_S
have said.

It's an error to read me based entirely on what I say and not by my emotionality (saying I fake emotionality is always a wrong assessment, regardless of my alignment, some emotionality is always there but presents differently), and I don't make things harder for myself than they need to be.
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Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:38 am

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Blake/S_S
are in top 5/10 people who've had the most experience with me in the whole site.

They flipped town, take in to consideration their reads and progression at least.
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Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:39 am

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In post 2637, Taly wrote:Also, D3 was such a huge pain in the ass, if I were that bothered as scum, I would've flaked or just not have been active in the thread.

I wouldn't have faked all-caps raging as much as I did because I genuinely do not want to cross the boundary of a rule or break friendships, I would not stoop that low as a performance to people I know who are town.
Oh God, this post is extremely towny. I really hope you're not making this as scum.
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Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:41 am

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In post 2640, Paragon wrote:
In post 2637, Taly wrote:Also, D3 was such a huge pain in the ass, if I were that bothered as scum, I would've flaked or just not have been active in the thread.

I wouldn't have faked all-caps raging as much as I did because I genuinely do not want to cross the boundary of a rule or break friendships, I would not stoop that low as a performance to people I know who are town.
Oh God, this post is extremely towny. I really hope you're not making this as scum.
I am a mastermind, or at least, people have said... I'm not so sure.

But if I were, I'm almost always a town-one, when people question it. ;)
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Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:43 am

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But yeah, just do what helps you solve best.

I've said the major points on how I am town here, and my understanding of the game at hand.
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Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:44 am

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Why did I ever say I enjoy LyLo. Well, I do, but oh boy the pressure. Anyway, I'll cover my bases for now:

Taly + Churros
Taly + eyestott
Churros + Alorstom
eyestott + Aloratom
eyestott + Churros
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Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:44 am

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I can say I called it now post-game.

When's the deadline? I hope it's past the 23rd. I don't really have time to reread until then.
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Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:45 am

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Not kidding though, I am lylo-bait as town, usually.

And if I were scum - which is not unusual that I make it mid OR late-game, this dayphase would be looking pretty different right now.

I've filtered the thread enough, have a good day
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Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:45 am

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oh and deadline is like 8-9 days
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Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:46 am

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Oh, I forgot:

Taly + Aloratom

Thanks! And cool, that should be fine.
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Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:03 am

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Wow you're so good at avoiding death and killing slots that are not part of the informed minority. Wow how are you so good at playing this game.
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