Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[Paragon]

Having a plan of fakeclaiming neapolitan seems kind of bizarre to me. It's a powerful investigative, so it should be easy to tell it doesn't fit with the power level of the game given the 2 scum in 12 players thing. Of course, he might've missed this fact, but it's something to consider.

[eyestott]

I also crumbed my alignment all through this day
Like line two of this post

Do you mean role? Where else did you crumb it?

No I mean alignment

I mean all the times today that I’ve promised that I’m town, etc


That part of 2665 was meant to be humorous

Like, who the heck thinks to crumb alignment?

[Paragon]

Lul, alright. Just checking.

[Churros]

If scum has a more powerful role, and in a normal especially designed by RC it's 90% of the time a roleblocker, they would have supposedly roleblock'ed you yesterday.

I'm pretty confident that with no neighbours claimed, it's one scum PR and one mafia goon, and roleblocker would have acted already therefore it's an investigative power.

[eyestott]

Losing because of setup spec that turned out wrong is pretty unfortunate. But we’ll talk about that postgame.
What I can say with 100% certainty is that I am town.
I also crumbed my alignment all through this day
Like line two of this post

I’m town and you’re not.

In my eyes it has to be the Bulletproof or the Neapolitan that doesn't exist.

I'm really coming around to [Eyestott/Churros], [Paragon/Eyestott], [Paragon/Churros].

You say that either the BP or Nea that doesn't exist but you're putting me in two different scum teams and not mentioning Taly at all?

They don't want to call me scum because they know I'll bury them.

That's why they spent this game telling me I had good points but not actually acting on them because they were accurate, and they knew it.

I’m town, so I know that’s wrong


What do you say to THAT, huh?
Gottem

Paragon. I’m town. Please believe me. I swear on my life I’m not trying to dupe you.

[eyestott]

If scum has a more powerful role, and in a normal especially designed by RC it's 90% of the time a roleblocker, they would have supposedly roleblock'ed you yesterday.

I'm pretty confident that with no neighbours claimed, it's one scum PR and one mafia goon, and roleblocker would have acted already therefore it's an investigative power.

Damn, if we werent locked in this feud where we now know each others alignment I might actually believe you

[Taly]

haha, you say you're town so much, who are you trying to convince?

if you're going to go that route, then at least case why you are.

[Paragon]

grumble grumble

I don't know. I should get back to work. Do you have any scumgame at all to link me, eyestott? Even one from a different site?

Aloratom! Get in here and do stuff at some point please.

[eyestott]

You know, Churros. Our friendship has inspired me
Maybe I’ll upload A cover of True Colours and dedicate it to you

I see your

true colours

shining through
I see your

true colours

, and that’s why I loooove you
So don’t be afraid to let them show your

true colours
True colours

are beautiful like a Churrroo

[eyestott]

haha, you say you're town so much, who are you trying to convince?

if you're going to go that route, then at least case why you are.

Ummmm
Paragon
Aloratom
Duh?


And I just did towncase

You and Churros haven’t thought to declare that you’re town anywhere near as much as me, maybe there’s a reason for that

[eyestott]

grumble grumble

I don't know. I should get back to work. Do you have any scumgame at all to link me, eyestott? Even one from a different site?

Aloratom! Get in here and do stuff at some point please.

I’ll see what I can do

[Taly]

haha, you say you're town so much, who are you trying to convince?

if you're going to go that route, then at least case why you are.

Ummmm
Paragon
Aloratom
Duh?


And I just did towncase

You and Churros haven’t thought to declare that you’re town anywhere near as much as me, maybe there’s a reason for that

2679 was a case?

You're going to put me to sleep.

[Taly]

does anyone else notice

alo's

prodging?

[eyestott]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

It’s pretty bad, I’m embarrassed looking back through it
But I think it’s my only scum game on MS

[eyestott]

I dunno, making a wall just doesn’t feel genuine. Succinct points are where it’s at Taly.
Paragon, look at my D1. That doesn’t come from scum who hasn’t played mafia in over 5 years
I rest my gavel

[eyestott]

You're going to put me to sleep.

The shade


Are you prepared to get read, Taly? Cause the library is open

[Churros]

I'm not making a dig at you as much as I'm going to talk about setup since we're at it anyway, so I'm not technically breaking the rules eyesott.

Let's for argument sake suppose that the neapolitan claim is real from your PoV Paragon.

It's either:

1-shot vig
town neapolitan
8 VTs
2 Mafia

or if you believe Taly town, add one 2-shot BP and remove one VT. Unless you believe that one scum is BP (which would be ridiculous because it takes away all the purpose of the vig), to balance that you would probably need a roleblocker because not only scum needs to get 4 mislynches to win, they would also have to dodge the vigilante shot, and pray to god that neapolitan makes bad decisions, like supposedly eyesott is claiming a clear on Luca, which coincidentally dead N1.

All in all, scum would need to dodge technically 5 lynches by town (counting with the vig that essentially gives an extra town lynch), and to pray that neapolitan doesn't have a guilty or clear everyone else in the game. scum NEEDS a roleblocker or this setup is idiotic. It gets even worse if you add Taly because it would also mean that they need to avoid out of thin air target'ing a player, or else they need to avoid 6 LYNCHES.

The unique way that setup seems plausible at all is if you add a mafia roleblocker, which would balance it out pretty nicely. Maybe you could even go for a rolecop + roleblocker combo in hindsight. For neapolitan to exist you need to believe that I'm a scum roleblocker that just made a hyper calculating play of intentionally not roleblocking eyesott and letting him restrict the lynchpool in LyLo just so I could discredit him. You also need to believe I had this plan more or less from D2 because he claimed before me, therefore I would have the knowledge of whether to claim a second investigative or not.

Or you can believe it's

1-shot Vigilante
2-shot town BP
1-shot Novice Gunsmith
7 VTs

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Goon

Which is...pretty ok and scum neapolitan gives a lot of synergy to 2-shot BP, because it may be exactly the entire reason for Taly role to exist and for it to not be a rolecop. scum Neapolitan would know who is PR or not with his result, but wouldn't know what kind of PR, therefore making 2-shot BP useful because it could be someone they could shot with a false positive for PR, kinda.

Actually now that I wrote it all out, I think scum team has no mafia goons, and actually has a 1-shot Strongman, which would give a hint that they might not be able to kill something. Which would make some sense for Eyesott trying to make people claim in D2, and it would also explain why he stopped at Taly, because their objective might be sniffing out the reason for their strongman, which Taly claim answered for them.

[eyestott]

If Churros is scum, he would know the setup by now, and be able to make arguments like the above one

[eyestott]

Paragon, just be careful.
Signing off

[Churros]

eyesott do you play anything? what's your favorite genre of game?

[Churros]

Paragon, just be careful.

from my position this is kinda funny

Signing off

We didn't even talk yet...

ok I need to go make lunch anyway

[Taly]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

It’s pretty bad, I’m embarrassed looking back through it
But I think it’s my only scum game on MS

i SuCk At ScUm lUl

I dunno, making a wall just doesn’t feel genuine. Succinct points are where it’s at Taly.
Paragon, look at my D1. That doesn’t come from scum who hasn’t played mafia in over 5 years
I rest my gavel

yEaH lOoK aT mY d1 PeRfOrMaNcE wHeRe I gOt ToWnReAd AnD mIsLyNcHeD

not the 3 preceding dayphases that veil me accruing suspicion

oh and it makes PERFECT sense that you would say my walls aren't genuine.

that's literally the mentality most of the playerlist has taken to me this game.

You're going to put me to sleep.

The shade


Are you prepared to get read, Taly? Cause the library is open

LOL girl, I don't need to shade you

You live in the shadow that looms over

Blake

and

S_S'

dead bodies.

[Taly]

the above post was mostly in good fun, i didnt mean to rip into you if that sounded too harsh

[Taly]

dude i wish i got strongman'd

[Taly]

churros

, am I abrasive?