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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:06 pm

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In post 162, Elsa Jay wrote:Throwing out my 2 cents already, if your theory is right (which it isn't but okay) then the hoods would probably be used to allow a traitor to talk to their teammates otherwise if they kill the other person in said hood.
And now I now I know why I come across as scummy all the time. Coming up with such "out if the box" ideas really does make others feel uncomfortable to say the least.

@Elsa: Why do you assume there is a traitor to begin with?

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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:12 pm

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Because its Saw. If Hoffman isn't a Traitor or something, it'll be weird to me.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:15 pm

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In post 272, Almost50 wrote:
In post 160, pisskop wrote:I dont think we should be making assumptions about hoods right now. But I really do agree that we should be posting in our hoods so that everyone else knows they are there.
I disagree. If hood membership is outed to hood members it should be outed to the whole roster. Assuming there is at least one mafia member in each hood the mafia will know the composition of the hoods as soon as players post in their hoods.
I have reason to believe this isn't a good idea at the moment. Standby, civilian.

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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:22 pm

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Yeah. Let's not talk about that.

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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 269, Elsa Jay wrote:Still find it weird someone like Dave can overestimate my abilities, but yeah. I just wanted to keep that in everyone's mind, particularly since all the "Jigsaws" never really worked together perfectly, so having them seperate with the same goal made sense to me.

In other news:

VOTE: GuiltyLion so we can get off the Almost wagon. He'll solve himself later.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:31 pm

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(even though all them guys didnt really have the same goals or motivations, but w/e)
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:36 pm

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For the game of mafia and having them as a confirmed team, some liberties are taken. Duh.

Never seen the most recent one though. Wonder how it was. Heard it brought back Kramer.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 281, Elsa Jay wrote:For the game of mafia and having them as a confirmed team, some liberties are taken. Duh.

Never seen the most recent one though. Wonder how it was. Heard it brought back Kramer.
I liked it! It had some fun traps and the order of deaths was pleasantly harder to predict.

from a story standpoint you had to suspend your disbelief really hard though
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:58 pm

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I don't see a reason to speculate with the mafia, whether they are in any PT (other then there own) or not. I think if those that have a PT can talk to the players there to get a feel outside of this game or push things in the PT, then have at it.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 229, iDanyboy wrote:Lets say you are in the PT flavored gorillas, and some one claims orangutan and they haven't posted in your PT, then they are scum. This way scum are punished for not posting in there PT.
Why GORILLAS?? Why not birds or reptiles or canines? WHY GORILLAS?? :evil:

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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 261, davesaz wrote:Past page 10 and neither A50 or Elsa have fakeclaimed. What's the world coming to? :lol:
My character does not identify any particular individual. I won't claim my role, but suffice it to say it's dope. I love it.

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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:38 pm

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In post 36, GuiltyLion wrote:Gamma why do I always scumread you
Town

Hectic's posts bug me beyond words and not in a scumhunting way

Pisskop town

ABR is probably scum for the setup spec

VOTE: ABR

Hectic stop being useless please

I'm in no PT btw
In post 269, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: GuiltyLion so we can get off the Almost wagon. He'll solve himself later.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:56 pm

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Because he had 2 votes on him already, so I said have another?
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:08 pm

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In post 286, BBmolla wrote:
In post 36, GuiltyLion wrote:Gamma why do I always scumread you
Town
What about this is town indicative-- like I believe him but why would he not say this as scum?
In post 286, BBmolla wrote:ABR is probably scum for the setup spec

VOTE: ABR
also curious to hear more about this
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:13 pm

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In post 288, Morning Tweet wrote:What about this is town indicative-- like I believe him but why would he not say this as scum?
I just think it's a strong stance to take willy nilly and I think that makes it more likely town

The ABR thing is straight forward, lots of times setup spec allows scum to post a lot without posting anything, IIOA
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:13 pm

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In post 287, Elsa Jay wrote:Because he had 2 votes on him already, so I said have another?
he's probably town so it's a bad vote tho
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:19 pm

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So BBmolla I'm surprised you aren't doing the check in once a day thing.
I don't mind you doing more than that, but now I'm wondering what the dividing line is.
A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:27 pm

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This game has a manageable playercount

I only do that in games of 40+ players because day focused mafia is impossible to play once you get beyond about 30.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:30 pm

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In post 289, BBmolla wrote:The ABR thing is straight forward, lots of times setup spec allows scum to post a lot without posting anything, IIOA
The Carriageway states setup spec is NAI on average. Why is it Acolyte-indicative coming from Albert?

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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:36 pm

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what the hell is the carriageway
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:38 pm

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One of the departments back at The Force. They dealt with setup spec related matters.

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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:01 pm

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maybe he meant 'carried-away'
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:42 pm

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In post 286, BBmolla wrote:ABR is probably scum for the setup spec

VOTE: ABR
Hot take. Why?
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-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
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- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:14 pm

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In post 152, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 22, Drixx wrote:Hello all you lovely people. So I'm in a hood, and our dear mod declined to give us a roster of who is in there.
I find it unusual that nobody has commented on this post.

I'm in a daychat PT too. There are at least 3 other players in it.

There are 21 players total, 16 town and 5 same-side scum.

Let's make some assumptions.

There are two neighborhoods or more, each with at least 4 players.

Nobody picked up on Drixx's post, because they don't want to out themselves as in his Private Topic or in a PT at all. If people weren't in a hood, they would be more interested in Drixx who claimed he was in one. Nothing in the setup said anything about PTs, except that daychat is active for all of them. So we have to assume everyone is in one.

Now what bothers me is the player count. Why 21 players and not 20? With 20 players, you can have 4-player or 5-player PTs with an even distribution.

21 can only be divided by 7. So are there 3 PTs, with 7 players each? If so, in my PT, 3 players have stayed on the sidelines so far, with 4 including myself announcing our presence, and in another PT, we know of Drixx.

What are possible distributions of scum in the PTs in 3 7-player PTs? 2-2-1, 2-3-0, or 5-0-0. The first one is the most likely (60%), the second one unlikely (30%), and the third option highly improbable (10%).

Therefore, if my assumption is correct that we're all in a PT, and that we all have scum in our PT, it's not safe to post our insights in the PTs as scum have daytalk and can share information, keeping the town out of the loop on content and slowing down scumhunting.

There's another possibility, however:

There could be a masons.

In this case, 21 players could break down like this:
3 masons in their hood
18 players remaining, 3 hoods with 6 players each

So here's what I'm thinking:
1) It's not safe to massclaim our PTs
2) It's safe for someone to claim not to be in a PT, although they might be lying about it and we don't have the means to verify.
3) If you're in a PT, you should announce your presence to the PT participants. Otherwise, you are damaging town cohesion and would therefore most likely be scum.
4) As the game progresses, if we clean out 2 scum from a single PT, it's probable that the remaining are town.

We're gonna get back to this in a bit ... but I just wanted to say that reading this post gave me the same vibe as watching someone solve a difficult Sudoko, while explaining the reasoning all the way through.

If you don't know that particular mental pleasure yet, let me introduce you:

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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:17 pm

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In post 255, Elsa Jay wrote:Then again I've played too many Boon games and think it's him or Almost running this game
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