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Inwho22 Was killed. They Were The

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Day Two Begins Now.

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Not Voting (7)

- LuckyLuciano, 3Bounty, Yooh, HoldenGolden, Clidd, humaneatingmonkey, Kirari Momobami

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-26 09:10:00)

[Yooh]

VOTE: Kirari

The hammer is too scummy.

as town your job is to not get lynched for bad reasons and you just eliminated the top reason to not hammer you

This is sounds coming from mafias. I can't see the reason why holding for another 24 hours was a problem and sudden hammer to instant-lock. Even if your wagon is voted by 2 persons, I still believed it's hard to go anywhere

If you're going to present the person with the hammer as a counter-wagon you just die, that's why monkey's posts here are slimy af

If you believe scum-Monkey tried to mislynching you, I'm sure you have a reason to hold your hammer at this state.

Aloratom - (4) - 3bounty, LuckyLuciano, Holden golden, Clidd, Kirari Momobami - Lynch!

I'm pretty sure 2 mafias in here.

[clidd]

Good morning, any guesses about the kill ?

I believe that Aloratom's lynch was a healthy option, mainly due to the inconsistency he presented during the game. Kirari is not scummy exclusively for having hammered early, but for the sporadic behavior she had during the day, so we must take this into account when evaluating her slot today. Monkey and Luciano remain with a high towny concept in my perception, which means at least 1~2 scum(s) among 3bounty/Yooh/HoldenGolden due to PoE in my particular pov, depending on Kirari's alignment.

At the moment, my pov looks like this:

[LuckyLuciano] [humaneatingmonkey]

[3bounty] [Yooh] [HoldenGolden]

[Kirari Momobami]

I would like to discuss, first, about the possible reasons for the Who22 murder, and secondly, about Kirari's behavior. After clarifying these two issues, I will be more comfortable voting.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Kirari

Just woke up. Will respond to Kirari's hammer later.

The reason is obvious. Kirari's fakeclaim was trying to draw reactions from PRs. InWho22 was one of the people who reacted, as I recall.

[Kirari Momobami]

2. You have the worst possible reads [Monkey / Clidd] with the information available;

clidd can you expand on why "Monkey/Clidd" are the "worst possible reads" for Aloratom to have day 1? Why from your perspective is monkey a bad person to suspect on day 1?

The hammer is too scummy.

What is scummy about hammering someone after I've declared intent and their response is to sheep a dumb end of day push on the person that declared intent?

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE: I forgot that it takes 4 to vote.

[Kirari Momobami]

InWho22 was one of the people who reacted, as I recall.

What did you interpret to be a reaction?

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Kirari oh only 2 votes so far

[clidd]

VOTE: Kirari

Just woke up. Will respond to Kirari's hammer later.

The reason is obvious. Kirari's fakeclaim was trying to draw reactions from PRs. InWho22 was one of the people who reacted, as I recall.

I usually pay attention to the details, but I didn't notice anything suggestively relevant to a deduction of

''Who22 is PR''

.

Do you remember which post it was ? (her reaction)

[humaneatingmonkey]

Kir I don't know what you mean by mason, please explain? The role, or?
LL definitely isn't confirmed town in my eyes but even as mafia he definitely provides more tools for town to work with, in comparison to 3b/Kir/Alo scum. As such, I don't feel like this is the lynch today.
I feel like all of Kir's content at the moment is based either on pure gut, or mafia motivations.
There is no real work on their part put into finding relevant information, and it feels like their content is more meme than team(e). (okay that pun didn't work). I think Kir is likely scum.
But still, based on this page (and all of those prior too), my vote is currently on VOTE: 3bounty.
My former beliefs still hiding true, this page added 3b using sheeping as a legitimate explanation as to how he'd vote. Very scummy.

same post asking what she means by her claim, and judging it as scummy.

can i please have my breakfast first

[clidd]

2. You have the worst possible reads [Monkey / Clidd] with the information available;

clidd can you expand on why "Monkey/Clidd" are the "worst possible reads" for Aloratom to have day 1? Why from your perspective is monkey a bad person to suspect on day 1?

My analyzes on Lucky and Aloratom were significant to justify a TL, in my opinion. Monkey was very transparent about his opinions, so he was also a terrible option for FoS/Lynch on D1. Not that I'm insulting Aloratom's cognitive ability, but he should have collaborated more if he wanted me to change my mind about his slot.

[Kirari Momobami]

So to be clear *you* see that as a PR soft? Because I do not and did not

If anything, if I was scum I would have taken that as non-PR indicative, since he's literally asking what a mason is...

I do know who I would have killed if I was scum because I do think I know who a non-VT is

[Kirari Momobami]

My analyzes on Lucky and Aloratom were significant to justify a TL, in my opinion. Monkey was very transparent about his opinions, so he was also a terrible option for FoS/Lynch on D1. Not that I'm insulting Aloratom's cognitive ability, but he should have collaborated more if he wanted me to change my mind about his slot.

OK but why is it the worst possible slot from Alora's POV? If he's not TLing Alora, why would you blame him for reading Alora differently than you? He has to find scum somewhere, doesn't he?

[clidd]

My analyzes on Lucky and Aloratom were significant to justify a TL, in my opinion. Monkey was very transparent about his opinions, so he was also a terrible option for FoS/Lynch on D1. Not that I'm insulting Aloratom's cognitive ability, but he should have collaborated more if he wanted me to change my mind about his slot.

OK but why is it the worst possible slot from Alora's POV? If he's not TLing Alora, why would you blame him for reading Alora differently than you? He has to find scum somewhere, doesn't he?

I don’t see where this question helps you understand my pov, but I don't read minds, so I deduced based on what I imagined the perspective Town!Alora should have considered through the information/impressions around him.

[3bounty]

In post 820 Alo said it himself, our best option was to hammer. His last scum reads were HEM/Clidd. But then sheeps HEM's vote on Kirari and asks for Clidd to join the wagon. HIS TWO SCUM READS.

Hammering after that was not at all scummy.

[clidd]

Kir I don't know what you mean by mason, please explain? The role, or?
LL definitely isn't confirmed town in my eyes but even as mafia he definitely provides more tools for town to work with, in comparison to 3b/Kir/Alo scum. As such, I don't feel like this is the lynch today.
I feel like all of Kir's content at the moment is based either on pure gut, or mafia motivations.
There is no real work on their part put into finding relevant information, and it feels like their content is more meme than team(e). (okay that pun didn't work). I think Kir is likely scum.
But still, based on this page (and all of those prior too), my vote is currently on VOTE: 3bounty.
My former beliefs still hiding true, this page added 3b using sheeping as a legitimate explanation as to how he'd vote. Very scummy.

same post asking what she means by her claim, and judging it as scummy.

can i please have my breakfast first

Hum. Give me some time, I need to think.

[Kirari Momobami]

In post 820 Alo said it himself, our best option was to hammer. His last scum reads were HEM/Clidd. But then sheeps HEM's vote on Kirari and asks for Clidd to join the wagon. HIS TWO SCUM READS.

Hammering after that was not at all scummy.

I kinda think it was like a reaction test for clidd but it kinda ruined my willingness to keep giving him time

[Kirari Momobami]

I don’t see where this question helps you understand my pov, but I don't read minds, so I deduced based on what I imagined the perspective Town!Alora should have considered through the information/impressions around him.

I dunno, seemed like you were really confident on HEM town and I wasn't sure where that was coming from since he feels like one of the harder slots for me to read this game

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think anyone who jumps at a fakeclaim bonanza has a good PR equity. I think InWho22 was killed on a combination that he was widely town-read and also he had that reaction. I don't think that fakeclaim was done without purpose or for pure memery only. I think scum!Kirari doing that fakeclaim can only mean she's drawing out PRs in the open.

[Kirari Momobami]

Yooh can you explain how you feel right now about this game

[Kirari Momobami]

I think anyone who jumps at a fakeclaim bonanza has a good PR equity. I think InWho22 was killed on a combination that he was widely town-read and also he had that reaction. I don't think that fakeclaim was done without purpose or for pure memery only. I think scum!Kirari doing that fakeclaim can only mean she's drawing out PRs in the open.

I think Who was killed exclusively because both you and me townread him which if we are both town means he is never getting lynched

You trying to blame me for his kill as though I outed him as TPR somehow is like... pretty scummy, but you still might be town. I feel like you're kinda more likely to just be having a bad game atm but I'm not sure

[Kirari Momobami]

Maybe it is just monkey though, I would kinda lean Holden over Monkey but white knighting a mislynch to push a lynch on another town is... maybe scummy

I'm trying to decide if acting as though Who was at all obvious as TPR is maybe HEM explaining why he'd kill Who? I absolutely would have not killed Who lol

[humaneatingmonkey]

Yooh was right in that you still had time to grill me and check who would jump at the wagon I'm trying to form on you. So I consider your hammer pretty scummy.