Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[Ame]

Also

Leader: NK15

My strongest town read.

Also Spring I accept your request.

[Farkset]

Also

Leader: NK15

My strongest town read.

Also Spring I accept your request.

Are you serious?

-Farkran

[Lady Chloe]

Ame,

Town
Raya-Ame
FotC-Ginngie-Hectic
Pine-Pink Ball-springlullaby
Farkset
mastina-momo
Scum

Can you elaborate on your Hectic and mastina reads? Regarding mastina, why is she lower than null?

I am biased against mastina. She has misrepresented me 617, enforced the belief that I am disingenuous without further explanation 613, and has utilized an entirely hostile approach to this slot 220 with no well-understood provocation. If this is how she reacts to unknown alts, I must know. Otherwise, her ultimatum of baiting me to out myself or I will be captured/lynched is incredibly contrived, and it frustrates me- obscuring my vision of the slot. 219

I'll reassess a replacement with new eyes.

Hectic? I skimmed Farkset's linked scumgames of him. This game has a different feel for him. I could take more time than I need reviewing his ISO in full, but any issue I've seen with his approach has felt more likely to come from town 1v1'ing than scum holding a certain position around the playerlist.

[Lady Chloe]

We need more dialogue on NK15 being town, not just declarative statements.

[Ame]

defer*

Leader Count

Ame (4) - Pine, Pink Ball, Raya, Hectic
Spring (1) - FoC
Hectic (1) - Farkset
NK15 (1) - Ame

Not Voting: NK15, Lady, mastina, Ginnie, momo, Spring

Everyone on me, please move to one of the other wagons!

[Farkset]

I'm not moving from hectic, he's like the only player who makes sense here.

-Farkran

[Farkset]

hey Ame you should pick us as leader instead, it would be the best choice
~ker

[Farkset]

hey Ame you should pick us as leader instead, it would be the best choice
~ker

Stop doing that

We might actually get townread if you do

-Farkran

[Ame]

Lady, players like Pink have a hard time reading more than a few words. Others want dialogue. I don't know what to do. I'm trying to post in snippets to appease the former.

[Ame]

hey Ame you should pick us as leader instead, it would be the best choice

Go away :3

[Hectic]

Ame, you felt a little hesitant entering the game, but then your anti-consensus takes like randomly switching ability votes, and then your sudden turn on springlullaby from scum to town without explanation was towny and contrasts your scumgame. That's what I can remember.

[Lady Chloe]

Farkset,

Illuminate me about Hectic?

As a further note to everyone; I am not questing.

Ame,

Lady, players like Pink have a hard time reading more than a few words. Others want dialogue. I don't know what to do. I'm trying to post in snippets to appease the former.

I understand.

Not Known 15,

Why did you shift from capturing springlullaby to capturing Farkset?

Pine,

Why is Farkset scum for his argument against Not Known 15?

[Flight of the Conchords]

Everyone on me, please move to one of the other wagons!

If you are ruling out spring, you, and Chloe, i'm not sure who I would support for leader other than our own slot. Raya? I think I could do Raya.

- Bret

[Ame]

NK isn't town to you Bret?

Chloe, I ask about Hectic because I feel his play is more similar to his scum game than his town games. So I'm trying to see what everyone else is seeing.

[Farkset]

We need more dialogue on NK15 being town, not just declarative statements.

Be careful, FOC will scumread you soon for that. He is already furious that we discuss capture target instead of instavoting {neighborizer + no capture}.
~ker

[Hectic]

NK isn't town to you Bret?

Chloe, I ask about Hectic because I feel his play is more similar to his scum game than his town games. So I'm trying to see what everyone else is seeing.

Interesting, in what way?

[Flight of the Conchords]

NK isn't town to you Bret?

Not confidently. He was squarely null for me until his recent case on SL X Fark, and I while I liked it I need more than one post to shore up a townread.

- Bret

[Ame]

@Hectic No pushes/little scum hunting/few reads. Like you're on the periphery of the game rather than the center. (this is pre v/la btw)

[Farkset]

Farkset,

Illuminate me about Hectic?

Serious answer

I posted a meta case on hectic several posts ago, let me fetch it… post 1038.

To be honest though, hectic scumgame improved greatly from what i remembered him. In our last TvS together, Undertale S-Open, hectic was being almost unanimously townread for having a very weak scumgame (ISO Nachomamma for reference) - i used to disagree but that was because i was scum and i had to fake a scumcase on him. Now though, this is probably my 4th or 5th game with hectic in less than 6 months, every time i read him correctly, i think he is town here. This is very much a meta/memory read, not particularly based on his play here, except a few weak elements like the D&D gimmick and the lack of opportunistic movements that i would expect from scum!Hectic.

-Farkran

[Lady Chloe]

Ame,

Then may I ask how you find this closer to his scumgame? I believe you have more tangible experience with Hectic than I.

Also, you are my strongest townread out of the proposed wagons-

Leader: Ame

Farkset,

We need more dialogue on NK15 being town, not just declarative statements.

Be careful, FOC will scumread you soon for that. He is already furious that we discuss capture target instead of instavoting {neighborizer + no capture}.
~ker

We need more dialogue on NK15 being town, not just declarative statements.

[Ame]

FoC you're the only alternative I'd feel comfortable with.


@Hectic, Raya, Chloe, Pine would you be willing to Leader NK or FoC?

[Lady Chloe]

I am more comfortable voting FotC.

[Ame]

Lady, I've liked almost every post by NK so far. In particular 272 and 296 which was his reaction to and explanation regarding Spring. It comes off as genuine town frustration and his explanation comes off a stream of conscious-y, as if he's working out the read in the post. And he engaged with me regarding mastina in an objective/solve-oriented manner: 357, 359, and 362.

My perspective on Hectic is in the ninjad post above.

[Lady Chloe]

Hectic,

As you wish, Lady Chloe.

You are on the RMS Moriarty. The course is set for

XP Island

. However, a tragedy has occurred. Captain

the worst

was killed in a freak accident while

Vending Fruit

to a

Paranoid Gun Owner

. The PGO fled the scene before anyone got a good look at them.

A short time later: springlullaby was found singing poems about Farkset nearby, while Ame was practising her demonic faces. You have a [Hydra, and Portable Ram] at your disposal.

Hydra. They have more eyes for different ways of seeing, and lips to make it harder to speak any lies.

Nice. You carefully take out the hydra you had stored in your backpack. This one has 3 heads, and you hear several complaints behind you about how you're "ruining the game" and that "all hydras should be policy lynched". Your hydra snaps at them and scares the heathens away.

springlullaby has stopped singing Farkset's praises and is now staring at you inquisitively. Her eyes are sending a flurry of ^s your way. Ame seems to have fallen asleep; she must be entering her dreams to figure out the mastermind behind Captain

the worst's

murder.

Which players from [Flavor Leaf, Ginnie, Something_Smart, momo, Raya36, popsofctown] does your hydra contain? And who would you like to approach of [springlullaby, Ame]?

The hydra consists of:
Something_Smart. popsofctown. Ginngie.

Those three are ones I am most familiar with, are on good terms with, and would solve best with. Yes, this is an allusion to potential mains.

I would approach springlullaby to understand the shift in her attitude.

springlullaby points at you^ and then at Ame^. She proclaims she's being BoPed and that she is the only rightful leader.

popsofctown offers to play

Advance Wars: Dual Strike

with her. She refuses.
Something_Smart offers to calculate

EV

with her. She refuses.
Ginngie appears to be preoccupied watching

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

. Fair enough.

This appears to be unproductive. Meanwhile, mastina jumps overboard, taking several walls with her! This is worrying; you're unsure if the ship will remain stable with the weakened infrastructure. Farkran and Ame do their best to put up some more, but it is a losing battle, and the ship is sinking.

Would you like to [Also Jump], [Ask Flight of the Conchords to give you a lift], or [Escape into Ame's dreamverse]?

Escape into Ame's dreamverse.

May I ask, do my answers provide any insight into my line of thoughts? Is this for fun? Or both?

Awesome <3 Anyone else? Spring? Lady? Raya? I'd prefer one of you three honestly.

Free immunity

Raya?

What does this allude to?

[Ame]

What does this allude to?

These:

I've decided I don't want to capture Farkset today. The reason being that if we get the lynch mechanic tomorrow we shouldn't lynch the person we captured today (since they wont be able to NK). And I think Farkset's flip is more important than capturing them.

So does anyone want to volunteer to be captured today for potential lynch immunity tomorrow!? Pink? Hectic?