Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)


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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:55 am

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In post 1147, Lady Chloe wrote:
In post 1144, Hectic wrote:The shot rings out and you immediately have their attention. They're all turned to face you, and you see a wave of fear and doubt wash over their faces.

You explain to them that it's rather simple, and that you know the worst was shot to death due to seeing Ame's dream. They seem incredulous. Then, Pine points out the fact that you seem to be holding a gun yourself. Curious.

You recall back on everyone's appearance on the ship. Who would possess a gun? Or were
you
the murderer all along? Make your decision.
I am no murderer of ducks. But everyone has reason to suspect me.

I contemplate throwing the gun overboard, but that leads nowhere.
I contemplate kicking the gun in the middle of everyone, but that is risky.

I put the gun to the ground and rest my heel on it. I cross my arms, eyes moving from Ame, to the hydra, to Pine, and back to everyone else.

Surely, someone has a comment.
Raya36 steps forwards to address you. Her gaze darts to the gun resting beneath your heel, then at you, and then flicker over to momo. You follow her eyes:

Image

Now that you notice it; momo does seem to be holding a submachine gun. Interesting.

Your hydra notices too and growls silently. You see momo's fingers tense on his gun.

Do you [Quickdraw your
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:56 am

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Wait, hang on a second, Ame; where have you played with shiki before? Or is this on your super secret alt?
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:59 am

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Think of it as if one of our role's was:
Town Child

You may make yourself immune to being lynched the following day phase. Additionally, you will be mod-confirmed to have not performed the Night Kill.
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 1151, Hectic wrote:Wait, hang on a second, Ame; where have you played with shiki before? Or is this on your super secret alt?
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:01 pm

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I definitely think you're the best choice for this btw Raya, so long as you agree to it.
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:04 pm

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I'm surprised Ame hasn't been unmasked with how many games she's played by now. It's not obvious to me who she is. Maybe I haven't played with her main.

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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:04 pm

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In post 1149, Ame wrote:Because it will eliminate you from Night Kill PoE. The blow back if you're town isn't as significant since you'll be able to do things N2, whereas scum!you wouldn't.
I can volunteer then if we aren't aiming to get scum anymore.
Capture: Raya
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:08 pm

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Capture: Raya


(I was going to use hurt, but that's for those with monstrous blood)
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:09 pm

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I am willingly volunteering to be captured. No need to hurt me too!
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:12 pm

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If we have a volunteer, then i'd be willing to go with that as an alternative to no capture. Hopefully there will be a mechanical benefit to it down the line.

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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:13 pm

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Definitely figure a leader out first though and make sure every slot has voted
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:19 pm

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Yes, I want leader settled before end of day. Night is too short, we can't be scrambling around for a leader vote in that time.

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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 1128, Ame wrote:My only reason is that Spring seems to really not want me to be in the quest. I don't know why and haven't been able to figure it out from her answers. If we can get NK/FotC I'm off. Otherwise, I'll stay on.
I am not spring's (or anyone else's) spokesperson, but I would speculate about the reason she wants you to stay off the quest as follows: Scum can sabotage you if you are on it, and thus do not need to kill you. If you are not on the quest you can train so they have a choice between killing you or letting you upgrade.

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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:25 pm

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If that's the case, I shall stay on, as I upgrade in 2 XP so I should be able to do so tonight. Additionally, since my ability is passive, it's best that I draw the sabotage, don't you think?
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:27 pm

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To clarify, I upgrade
at
2 XP. I already have 1 XP and sabotage doesn't prevent XP gains or uses in the same night. So once I get the XP from leader, I'll be able to upgrade then. (Already confirmed this with the mod).
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:34 pm

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Great. This puts you at 5 votes. Let's get this day wrapped up. We have 12 hours or so, and i'm not confident i'll be on at deadline. Not sure about Jemaine. I think this game got to him a bit, so he's taking a backseat atm.

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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:36 pm

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I mean, I already was trying to get you to do the quest myself. I was just speculating about why spring wanted you out. If you are in then I think both I and Bret agree to vote you for leadership.

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PEDIT: There you go.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:43 pm

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@Farkset @Spring @Chloe @Hectic @Pink @momo @Pine @Ginnie @NK


Please make sure you have everything done that you want to be done and gently capture Raya when you are next online.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:34 pm

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1) Why I want Ame to stay outside of the quest.
> Because, if her claim is true, she is a safe target to receive the item.

2) The volunteering to capture is really, really dumb. It doesn't serve as POE at all.
In post 2, Professor Moriarty wrote:IV. Actions
This game contains two types of night actions: standard actions and bonus actions. Unless otherwise specified, all actions are standard actions. Each player may carry out a maximum of one standard action and any number of bonus actions in one night, unless they Train, in which case they may take no other actions (standard or bonus).
The Mafia factional kill is a bonus action; this in effect means that all Mafia members are multitasking, as they may carry out the Mafia kill at the same time as taking a personal action.
Ame, why did you suggest that? Do you see that it is a bad idea?
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:38 pm

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~Only players who participate in the quest can receive the item.
~Captured players cannot use bonus actions.
~The factional kill cost 1 XP. Captured mafia lose 1 XP. If a member has 0 XP, they cannot do the kill.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:47 pm

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@mod: can you confirm only players participating into the quest can receive quest item?



Concerning volunteering to capture.
--> We don't know starting mafia XP point.
--> Either way, a mafia member not carrying the kill, doesn't mean they are not mafia since another member of the mafia can do it. Do you agree?
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:49 pm

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Sorry why are we capturing Raya?
"Your intentions are not defined by how things went, but how things could've gone." (Ball, 2019)
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:25 pm

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She volunteered and we are trusting that she is a rational agent.
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:51 pm

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@Spring
Spoiler:
If we can pinpoint a good candidate, I think it's more beneficial the first day because it sets mafia back two days. Mafia are the only confirmed players that require XP to use their ability (looking at the previous game, there was only one town role that required XP to use their ability). Unless otherwise stated, we each start out with 1 XP. The mafia kill is 1 XP. Capturing prevents a mafia member from performing the kill for two nights as they lose an XP and are prevented from gaining an XP N1. This forces one of the two other members to expend XP to do the kill. This increases our odds of blocking or tracking the kill because blocker/tracker knows that they don't need to be on the captured player. Furthermore, if mafia all start out with 1 XP (which I don't think is a poor assumption) and they are unable to gain XP by some other means N1, TWO mafia members will be unable to kill N2 because they will both need to train. Furthermore, say we lynch scum tomorrow and it was the player that did the kill. That also leaves only one scum able to perform the kill the following Night, which is even more to our advantage. Capturing town is not a big deal in my opinion because they can still use their ability the following Night, unlike scum.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:21 pm

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Why...the fuck would we want to capture someone we think is Town?
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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