Newbie 1996: GAME OVER

[clidd]

I believe that in terms of off-meta evaluation, it is valid to analyze by play. From a town perspective, the impact you would have with a fake claim, compared to the impact as scum, would not be so beneficial in the sense of cost x benefit.

[Kirari Momobami]

What role did I fakeclaim, clidd?

[clidd]

Mason.

[Kirari Momobami]

Masonry: lucky, alora, 3b, kirari, holdengolden, who
N0 cop guilty: clidd

Look me in the eyes and tell me this is a mason fakeclaim

[LuckyLuciano]

I mean, I remember saying one action of yours was Townie. I don't remember town reading. Even if I did, we have two flips to work with. Why would I care what my day one reads are when day one is all gut pings anyway?

[Kirari Momobami]

I mean, I remember saying one action of yours was Townie. I don't remember town reading. Even if I did, we have two flips to work with. Why would I care what my day one reads are when day one is all gut pings anyway?

Which flip points to me as scum?

[LuckyLuciano]

I agree with Monkey. I have bad vibes from your charade to begin with, hence why I called you on it, and he's put details to the story. If you are town, you need to never play in a newbie game again.

[Kirari Momobami]

L-1ing me like 12 hours into day 1 after 2 flips because you're annoyed at how I played day 1 is like somewhere between scummy and really, really bad play btw

[Kirari Momobami]

* day 2

[Kirari Momobami]

I agree with Monkey. I have bad vibes from your charade to begin with, hence why I called you on it, and he's put details to the story. If you are town, you need to never play in a newbie game again.

You said this but then you spammed three consecutive pages

Stop trying to justify you playing badly by blaming me for some fairly obvious jokes

[Kirari Momobami]

Changing "strong townreads" to "masons" is not a really complicated play

Making the thread unreadable by making 100 posts that no one wants to read is actually disruptive to the game

Making the game toxic by arguing you're doing a day 2 policy lynch when the game is significantly more readable is very close to actual gamethrowing

[LuckyLuciano]

This is where you tell us who we should be lynching instead of you.

pedit: This isn't a policy lynch. I think you are scum. That I don't think you should play in newbie games is independent of my belief that you are scum.

[clidd]

Masonry: lucky, alora, 3b, kirari, holdengolden, who
N0 cop guilty: clidd

Look me in the eyes and tell me this is a mason fakeclaim

You alluded to an atypical role instead of using a more appropriate term to refer to your TLs/TRs, in order to suggest unconscious triggers for possible PRs who were witnessing your post.

You were *fakeclaiming*.

Emotionally speaking

, there is a certain degree of towny in the posts where you mentioned games as hydra.

Rationally speaking

, there is a certain scummy degree to your attitude of using known roles to dye your own definitions.

[Kirari Momobami]

Lucky, you have exclusively voted town this game

If anyone ever looks at VCA and I get lynched, you are getting lynched tomorrow for game loss

Unless you are 100% confident on me being scum, you need to take a step back and actually start playing this game in a way that is... good

[clidd]

The only problem is that this is not the right pace for the game.

We cannot lynch with *coasting* players in this decision. It would be interesting if this was discussed with Holden and 3bounty as well.

[LuckyLuciano]

How is a veiled threat a good way for you to be handling L-1?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 2.01

Kirari Momobami (3)

- Yooh, humaneatingmonkey, LuckyLuciano

Not Voting (7)

- , 3Bounty, HoldenGolden, Clidd, Kirari Momobami

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-26 09:10:00)

[Kirari Momobami]

How is a veiled threat a good way for you to be handling L-1?

I voted scum this game

I argued that town you were shitpushing all of day 1 was town off meta

You ignored me, and now you are scumreading me for being right but compromising on your lynch

Consider the possibility that you are having a TERRIBLE game and are trying to say I should "not play newbie games" when your play this game has been bad by objective and quantifiable measures in a world where you are town

Calm down and reassess in a way that doesn't involve spamming the thread for three pages only for you to continue scumreading town

[LuckyLuciano]

I'm a newbie in a newbie game. Tell me more about how I'm bad.

[LuckyLuciano]

Since you seem to know who scum is, would you like to enlighten us... at any point..?

[Kirari Momobami]

If Lucky and 3B are BOTH town, and they remain tunneled on Aloratom, it *does not matter* if Aloratom is town if they are going to ignore reason to townread him

3B at least was willing to move off Aloratom, but despite spamming the thread with three pages of bloat that was mostly ignored, you continued pushing town on day 1

So Lucky, why do you think you have the right to insult my playstyle when *if you are town* you are having a much worse game than me?

Stop trying to guilt trip me for making totally reasonable choices

[Kirari Momobami]

Since you seem to know who scum is, would you like to enlighten us... at any point..?

Did you just L-1 me without reading my posts?

[LuckyLuciano]

I don't equate being wrong with deliberately navigating a newbie game as an experienced player in a way that you know will confuse newbies.

Really, I don't care how bad you say I am, I want to know who scum is, if it's not you.

[Kirari Momobami]

Don't tell people not to play newbie games unless you want people to comment about your play

[LuckyLuciano]

Newbies are supposed to be bad at the game. Experienced players are supposed to play in a way that provides clarity.

Pick a counterlynch already. Vote who you think is most likely to be scum and we can talk about them.