On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Alisae]

Also can you confirm that confirming with your hydra partner which head will answer does not fall under "coordination" of event rules?

yeah you can work with your hydra partner for this

[Farkran]

Oh cool post was deleted, let me fetch it back

Sorry

[Black Hole Defection]

Alright who's ready to blow the doors off this motherfucker and jam?

For Chemist: I'm still curious as to the evolution of your Fark read. Do you have any other strong reads you feel like I should look at? I don't think DA's end of day vote is very AI, even though I don't like the slot overall.

For Hectic: I'm back, get ready to lose all the minigames. I'm glad you got robbed, you deserved it. Sorry to hear about your ball, though.

For Yang: You seems to have mostly questions over reads at the moment, which is fine, but can you talk about one/two? Probably my only solid townread right now is Searchers, and M&K/Hectic sitting in a "town for now" bucket. I don't have any issues with Hectic reads so far, PB's power was pro-town, and the robbery claim would be a very bold fakeclaim but plausible. Do you agree with Blake that DA is town?

If anyone not named popsofctown thinks they have anything persuasive on DA town I am still begging to hear it.

[Blake X Yang]

John Cena has been transparently town for at least half of the game by this point.

-Blake

[Blake X Yang]

BoP me on this read if you must, but I will not tolerate a wagon on him while I am still alive.

-Blake

[Black Hole Defection]

I need to talk to pops about it but my #1 choice for a vote right now is unquestionably Foxy.

Pine's posting today has been ???. I read what seemed like 5 posts about how he's paying attention now,

I don't trust Hectic's "I was robbed" claim, that's not AI and it's a good way to buy things on the sly without having to claim your purchases.
Flavor Leaf always reads scummy to me.
John Cena's avatar irritates me, so I'm predisposed against him.
You pushing me doesn't make me like you very much.
I'm getting weird vibes from Equitable Androids, but not really anything to pull a trigger on.
L+L are the closest to getting a vote, but that's more disagreeing with some of their setup spec/night action analysis than anything

I get that these were provided upon a request by Blake but literally the only one of these with any substance behind it is the Hectic read. What was the point about going on about Cena's avatar over discussing the "decent vibes" you mentioned in in 2992?

Can you try to point us towards the weird vibes from EA you're speaking about Pine?

[Black Hole Defection]

John Cena has been transparently town for at least half of the game by this point.

-Blake

Neat! If only I trusted group consensus, but I don't. I don't even trust my own hydra partner's.

[Blake X Yang]

VOTE: Equitable Androids

-Blake

[Blake X Yang]

John Cena has been transparently town for at least half of the game by this point.

-Blake

Neat! If only I trusted group consensus, but I don't. I don't even trust my own hydra partner's.

This isn't even a majority.

This is largely a read from me only.

-Nlake

[Blake X Yang]

-Blake

[Black Hole Defection]

I read "half the game" as half the playerlist, which probably speaks for itself as to how frustrated I've been by no one answering this question. Meta is fine but I don't have it.

[The Searchers]

I wouldn't really mind a Foxy wagon, though that one kind of has the feel of being low hanging fruit simply since they honestly don't seem engaged at all.

I'm trying not to focus on egospray as much this day phase, but I would like to point out how they have disappeared this day phase as soon as them being lynched is no longer being actively talked about. Maybe I'm reading into it too much, and they just got busy, but it seems to correlate with my thoughts on their actions yesterday--namely, they started posting and being active only to avoid being lynched.
~Ircher

[Blake X Yang]

Pink Ball's scumread is ridiculous, but I don't believe it's necessarily scum indicative.

-Blake

I actually disagree on the first part. I think it has somewhat valid logic behind it. Disaster Artists getting super worked up over this kinda reads scum to me. Like he doesn't want to get caught for something he views as not-AI. If that makes sense. This has been a decently reliable tell for me in the past. 1723 is pretty close to what I'm thinking about the slot.

This is functionally incorrect. I've seen John Cena have similar reactions in the past as town. He understands when a push is not necessarily good for the game, even if he otherwise would be looking to gun them down in the street.

It's also very possible he isn't as convinced on Insomnia being scum as he let on. He tends to not push relentlessly on slots that he isn't absolutely sure are scum.

-Blake

This John Cena is virtually identical to the John Cena in Titus v Alisae.

I would be very shocked if he was not town this game.

-Blake

John Cena has very real towntells that appear very differently within his scumgames. He's somebody you are unlikely to catch as mafia. You catch him by figuring out that he just isn't town.

And his actions this game are simply out of his scumrange.

-Blake

[Black Hole Defection]

EA I'm less inclined to vote given the DN interaction, Gobble is the worse of the two imo but I have played with neither slot before.

Are you game to talk about the Foxy slot? Rereading xof's Day 1 I liked it a bit. #649 is okay. #899 says a lot about how to read Titus though...which has not been followed up on at all. There's so much lecturing about things to consider when reading, and very little reading comparatively. I also didn't like the reactionary nature and the noticeably selfconscious nature of the posting. but Pine's readlist is a crime against humanity.

[Imperium]

Basically a prod dodge. I can’t look at a computer any more today. Gonna take a break and play some ff7 and see if my brain unscrambles; I don’t expect to be back Though!

I went through my reads in the neighborhood last night, so I’ll meed to go through them and paraphrase them tomorrow probably.

titus - were you town reading us to such an extent that you would have been fine with us receiving money last night?

John Cena has been transparently town for at least half of the game by this point.

-Blake

BHD - I think you get false positives when a player shows emotion.

[Imperium]

I missed my this there. I’m ahreeing with Blake on John cena.

[Black Hole Defection]

Rereading xof's Day 1 I liked it a bit more than I did skimming yesterday.

EBWOP

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Basically a prod dodge. I can’t look at a computer any more today. Gonna take a break and play some ff7 and see if my brain unscrambles; I don’t expect to be back Though!

I went through my reads in the neighborhood last night, so I’ll meed to go through them and paraphrase them tomorrow probably.

titus - were you town reading us to such an extent that you would have been fine with us receiving money last night?

John Cena has been transparently town for at least half of the game by this point.

-Blake

BHD - I think you get false positives when a player shows emotion.

In this case, incorrect. I initially scumread his emotion.

-Blake

[Blake X Yang]

Basically a prod dodge. I can’t look at a computer any more today. Gonna take a break and play some ff7 and see if my brain unscrambles; I don’t expect to be back Though!

I went through my reads in the neighborhood last night, so I’ll meed to go through them and paraphrase them tomorrow probably.

titus - were you town reading us to such an extent that you would have been fine with us receiving money last night?

John Cena has been transparently town for at least half of the game by this point.

-Blake

BHD - I think you get false positives when a player shows emotion.

In this case, incorrect. I initially scumread his emotion.

-Blake

[Black Hole Defection]

BHD - I think you get false positives when a player shows emotion.

Is this Nacho or Tammy?

For Blake, it seems like the action you think is outside of their range is the DN/JC interaction with the vigs. I think what you're saying seems to reinforce my point. It took JC seemingly forever to remember that insomnia had "these moments", when that should have been one of the first things he realized.

I believe that he was angry, but this looked to me like someone who realized that this push would not benefit him in the longrun even in the best case scenario of getting a DN mislynch. I probably won't look at it again anytime soon but pops isn't voting here and I should probably just focus elsewhere.

[Imperium]

I was referring to orism with the emotion comment.

I was unclear, which is why I need to step away from the computer.

[Blake X Yang]

BHD - I think you get false positives when a player shows emotion.

Is this Nacho or Tammy?

For Blake, it seems like the action you think is outside of their range is the DN/JC interaction with the vigs. I think what you're saying seems to reinforce my point. It took JC seemingly forever to remember that insomnia had "these moments", when that should have been one of the first things he realized.

I believe that he was angry, but this looked to me like someone who realized that this push would not benefit him in the longrun even in the best case scenario of getting a DN mislynch. I probably won't look at it again anytime soon but pops isn't voting here and I should probably just focus elsewhere.

I've seen this exact same behavior in his town games. I've also seen him make pushes as scum. Emotion for him is not alignment indicative, but my initial impression that he was potentially scum for not acting upon that was overshadowed by the town response he gave me when I pressured him upon it. It reminds me of, again, a previous town game.

This by itself would not be enough for him to be obviously town, but I expressed it as such at the time because it became inherently disadvantageous to town for a wagon on him to form. Over time, however, the way he bounced back from this altercation has given enough cause for a townread of that strength to be warranted.

However, this I will say. If I die sooner rather than later and John Cena is still alive when there is in the ballpark of five hydras left, then lynch him. Before then, I am shielding him.

I was referring to orism with the emotion comment.

I was unclear, which is why I need to step away from the computer.

This explains why "Bad Hair Day" didn't quite seem to fit what you were saying.

-Blake

[Imperium]

BHD - I think you get false positives when a player shows emotion.

Is this Nacho or Tammy?

For Blake, it seems like the action you think is outside of their range is the DN/JC interaction with the vigs. I think what you're saying seems to reinforce my point. It took JC seemingly forever to remember that insomnia had "these moments", when that should have been one of the first things he realized.

I believe that he was angry, but this looked to me like someone who realized that this push would not benefit him in the longrun even in the best case scenario of getting a DN mislynch. I probably won't look at it again anytime soon but pops isn't voting here and I should probably just focus elsewhere.

Tammy!

I have no idea what his scum range is. I’ve never played with him before. I don’t town read him for that interaction. I was already townreading him before that point.

I made the comment about emotion because I remember you as someone who tends to scumread emotion. I’ve only seen you as town a few times, so maybe that’s not a fair memory on such a small sample size, so maybe I’m wrong on that.

[Imperium]

Lol Blake

Okay really bye. Got go blow up a reactor.

[Black Hole Defection]

I can only think of one false positive I've gotten based off of emotion, and that came from a replacement into a slot I had been scumreading for weeks anyway. I suspect the site meta is the one that places too much emphasis on emotion; I have exploited this relentlessly as scum.

JC might be town. That's totally possible; I would bet something of only moderate significance on him being scum. If he's scum, though, I think that interaction is why I'd be right.

Maybe you're right on my tendencies, but we'll see.