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Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:16 am

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In post 2799, Taly wrote:
In post 2798, eyestott wrote:
In post 2793, Taly wrote:
In post 2764, eyestott wrote:Oof lol

I think I’d prefer a Churros lynch today, because we’ve been voting eachother for so long, there’s no way that he’s town. Taly vs Alo is about 80:20 now
We lynch Churros, scum kills me, Paragon has to pick between Taly vs Alo
We lynch Churros, scum kills paragon, I either confirm or catch Alo and need to convince Taly
We lynch Churros, scum kills Alo, We lynch Taly
We lynch Churros, scum kills Taly but fails, we kill Alo

All of those look winnable
why are you even proposing a reality that I'm town when you keep pushing the narrative of
Churros+Me
scumteam? It's disingenuous.
Because the chance that you are town is non-zero?
then why do you continually paint the narrative that im scum with
churros
when there's a reality that im town?

why arent you evaluating
alo
in the same context if he's potential scum?
better yet, why dont you try to convince me
churros
is scum if you're so confident that he always ends up being so here?
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Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:17 am

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Taly, do you take back your saying that I should’ve targeted Churros?
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Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:20 am

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i see now that it's not a strong point now, thinking about ways you could've confirmed people

it just feels weird that you know there's a way to doubt the current claims in the game (as some are fakeclaims) but you dont verify that

but yeah, i take it back but i still think NKA leads you as likelier scum, how am i wrong?
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Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:22 am

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In post 2800, Taly wrote:
In post 2799, Taly wrote:
In post 2798, eyestott wrote:
In post 2793, Taly wrote:
In post 2764, eyestott wrote:Oof lol

I think I’d prefer a Churros lynch today, because we’ve been voting eachother for so long, there’s no way that he’s town. Taly vs Alo is about 80:20 now
We lynch Churros, scum kills me, Paragon has to pick between Taly vs Alo
We lynch Churros, scum kills paragon, I either confirm or catch Alo and need to convince Taly
We lynch Churros, scum kills Alo, We lynch Taly
We lynch Churros, scum kills Taly but fails, we kill Alo

All of those look winnable
why are you even proposing a reality that I'm town when you keep pushing the narrative of
Churros+Me
scumteam? It's disingenuous.
Because the chance that you are town is non-zero?
then why do you continually paint the narrative that im scum with
churros
when there's a reality that im town?

why arent you evaluating
alo
in the same context if he's potential scum?
better yet, why dont you try to convince me
churros
is scum if you're so confident that he always ends up being so here?
Because your read on me is town on odd days and scum on even days. So I just need to, if you’re town, keep you alive till D5 :p

In all seriousness, I’m trying to focus on getting my townreads to vote with me, and you seem pretty set on casing me today and I don’t think I’d be able to sway you. If I focus on everyone, I don’t think I could convince anyone of my innocence.
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Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:27 am

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eyestott wrote:
In post 2800, Taly wrote:
In post 2799, Taly wrote:
In post 2798, eyestott wrote:
In post 2793, Taly wrote:
In post 2764, eyestott wrote:Oof lol

I think I’d prefer a Churros lynch today, because we’ve been voting eachother for so long, there’s no way that he’s town. Taly vs Alo is about 80:20 now
We lynch Churros, scum kills me, Paragon has to pick between Taly vs Alo
We lynch Churros, scum kills paragon, I either confirm or catch Alo and need to convince Taly
We lynch Churros, scum kills Alo, We lynch Taly
We lynch Churros, scum kills Taly but fails, we kill Alo

All of those look winnable
why are you even proposing a reality that I'm town when you keep pushing the narrative of
Churros+Me
scumteam? It's disingenuous.
Because the chance that you are town is non-zero?
then why do you continually paint the narrative that im scum with
churros
when there's a reality that im town?

why arent you evaluating
alo
in the same context if he's potential scum?
better yet, why dont you try to convince me
churros
is scum if you're so confident that he always ends up being so here?
Because your read on me is town on odd days and scum on even days. So I just need to, if you’re town, keep you alive till D5 :p

In all seriousness, I’m trying to focus on getting my townreads to vote with me, and you seem pretty set on casing me today and I don’t think I’d be able to sway you. If I focus on everyone, I don’t think I could convince anyone of my innocence.
im just pretty confused at this point.

every time ive agreed with someone in this game, it's been a wrong decision.

every time that ive let other people decide, its been a wrong decision.

and theres a lot of pointed suspicion at me that i dont understand.

ive literally been called to be apart of 3-4 different fucking scumteam this game
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Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:28 am

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im scum with
fuzzy


i could be scum with
ndmath


watch out if i am scum with
blake
!!

im scum with
eye
or
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Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:28 am

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In post 2802, Taly wrote:i see now that it's not a strong point now, thinking about ways you could've confirmed people

it just feels weird that you know there's a way to doubt the current claims in the game (as some are fakeclaims) but you dont verify that

but yeah, i take it back but i still think NKA leads you as likelier scum, how am i wrong?
There’s no way for me to doubt a fake claim, unless scum fake claims VT. That’s all I can check for. And that’s what I AM checking for. Look at the suggested strategy for a Neapolitan on the wiki. Have I not been targeting the correct people according to that?
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Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:29 am

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my POV this game is summed up best with
Taly V 12p


and im really not understanding the root of it.
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Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:30 am

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In post 2805, Taly wrote:im scum with
fuzzy


i could be scum with
ndmath


watch out if i am scum with
blake
!!

im scum with
eye
or
churros
regardless of how you look at it
This isn’t constructive Taly.
I’m trying to be amicable with you and discuss things on the chance that you’re town, but AtE like this makes it difficult for me to do so
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Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:31 am

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In post 2808, eyestott wrote:
In post 2805, Taly wrote:im scum with
fuzzy


i could be scum with
ndmath


watch out if i am scum with
blake
!!

im scum with
eye
or
churros
regardless of how you look at it
This isn’t constructive Taly.
I’m trying to be amicable with you and discuss things on the chance that you’re town, but AtE like this makes it difficult for me to do so
its not AtE, at least i dont feel any emotion to it.

im just pointing out my issues here.
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Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:32 am

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In post 2806, eyestott wrote:
In post 2802, Taly wrote:i see now that it's not a strong point now, thinking about ways you could've confirmed people

it just feels weird that you know there's a way to doubt the current claims in the game (as some are fakeclaims) but you dont verify that

but yeah, i take it back but i still think NKA leads you as likelier scum, how am i wrong?
There’s no way for me to doubt a fake claim, unless scum fake claims VT. That’s all I can check for. And that’s what I AM checking for. Look at the suggested strategy for a Neapolitan on the wiki. Have I not been targeting the correct people according to that?
OK fine, but who do you think committed the NKs that they did and why?
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Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:32 am

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You can appeal to emotion without actually being emotional
Like, what are you trying to achieve by saying stuff like that?
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Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:33 am

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these arent rhetorical questions,
eye
... can you spend less time focusing on the posts that you believe is just pure AtE without logical thought and more on the questions i pose?
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Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:35 am

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In post 2810, Taly wrote:
In post 2806, eyestott wrote:
In post 2802, Taly wrote:i see now that it's not a strong point now, thinking about ways you could've confirmed people

it just feels weird that you know there's a way to doubt the current claims in the game (as some are fakeclaims) but you dont verify that

but yeah, i take it back but i still think NKA leads you as likelier scum, how am i wrong?
There’s no way for me to doubt a fake claim, unless scum fake claims VT. That’s all I can check for. And that’s what I AM checking for. Look at the suggested strategy for a Neapolitan on the wiki. Have I not been targeting the correct people according to that?
OK fine, but who do you think committed the NKs that they did and why?
This would be a lot easier to answer If I remembered ever making a night kill, but I’ll give it a try.
Where can I find scholarly research on NKA?
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Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:36 am

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In post 2813, eyestott wrote:
In post 2810, Taly wrote:
In post 2806, eyestott wrote:
In post 2802, Taly wrote:i see now that it's not a strong point now, thinking about ways you could've confirmed people

it just feels weird that you know there's a way to doubt the current claims in the game (as some are fakeclaims) but you dont verify that

but yeah, i take it back but i still think NKA leads you as likelier scum, how am i wrong?
There’s no way for me to doubt a fake claim, unless scum fake claims VT. That’s all I can check for. And that’s what I AM checking for. Look at the suggested strategy for a Neapolitan on the wiki. Have I not been targeting the correct people according to that?
OK fine, but who do you think committed the NKs that they did and why?
This would be a lot easier to answer If I remembered ever making a night kill, but I’ll give it a try.
Where can I find scholarly research on NKA?
...maybe just think of potential reasons why
S_S/Blake
were NKed and who had reason to...
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Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:37 am

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I think the standout night kill is S_S. He’s not exactly in the same category as Luca or Blake.


Luca would be an easy choice for anyone as scum. He was widely townread, especially given the circumstances behind Rabid Schnauzer replacing out
Looking back at Blake now
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Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:39 am

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ok... dont know if scum NKed
luca
or
pops


and what stands out on the
S_S
kill?
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Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:44 am

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There’s no way that Blake Vigs Luca, while scum kills pops. Do you disagree?
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Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:47 am

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unless scum wanted a townflip on the main lead to the
NDMath
wagon to justify their push

but that assumes
you/Alo
are scum, and even then, that may be counterproductive since it removes a vote against
ndmath
...

but
Blake vig Pops
and
Luca is NKed by scum
makes the
Fuzzy/NDMath
lynches seem both entirely town-led which is a huge ??? to me.
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Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:49 am

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I can’t find a good reason why Blake was NKed. All three of Taly/Capsicum/Alo were townread by her at EoD. So there must be a reason that I cannot think of. Unless Churros is in fact, an investigative of some kind and targeted her night one.
But If I were a scum investigative I wouldn’t use it on Yshtola night 1. Would be more likely to pick someone who is less active than normal, possibly trying to not attract attention
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Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:51 am

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alo
wasnt a hard townread, i was considered a potential traitor, and
you/S_S
were her next closest scumleans.

she was townreading
churros/paragon
the most.

i cant think of another reason she was NKed other than reads, unless it was due to her being considered a vig with more than one shot.
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Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:53 am

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S_S was, I suspect, killed for being confirmed, to lend credibility to Churros’ claim. Was the obvious choice for the night kill, but more out of necessity because of Churros claim (especially for Churros scum)
Leaving S_S alive would’ve secured a lynch on Churros much more reliably than killing him
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Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:55 am

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Taly, will you be here in 9 hours?
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Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:57 am

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maybe, why?
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Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:00 am

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i want this day to end

why is
alo
town?
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