Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Vecna]

Also my hood has died basically. Nobody in there seems motivated to talk at all.

When someone questioned the die off, another someone told them to scum hunt in the main thread.

Of those two responses to the hood going dry ... I feel like the "don't use it, just scum hunt in the main thread" response is maybe questionable. Thoughts?

Depends entirely on personality as well. If its a strong scum player, I dont think theyd ever want to encourage people to not use the hood since theyd love to manipulate people in it.

On average id say the "hunt in thread" comment comes from town more often, but is pretty nai if the thread is dead anyway

[Vecna]

Thanks for the explanations btw GL, I think ill sheep your opinion on BBmolla and George, and will probably need to trust other people to read A50 properly for me.

Not sure if I completely agree with your reasoning on Davesaz, but I can see where youre coming from and you might have it nailed.

[farside22]

"Monotone"? What does that mean farside?

You don't read as a passionate player like others. I saw lots of one liners from you, very relaxed kind of play. I did catch something that I think it is a scum tell, but I'd rather not say unless I see it.

farside - why am I your 2nd strongest scum read?

I read your reaction to venca as fake. The association you put in there reads as over the top and invalid.

It's funny nor one person -other than EJ himself- commented on my referencing him saying almost the same thing in another game where he was scum. I get that scum don't want to deal with that one way or another (if he is scum it's best if they let it die, and if he is town then either town pushes through the mislynch or scum use it later to mislynch me). Now why did no TOWN player talk about that?

I checked more into ej as a player and i feel very unsure since they are very monotone playstyle.
So far all i get is a lot of meh.

Wagon bores me for now on EJ.
Next on my scum list.
VOTE: BM
Drixx would be second strongest scum read.

So you scumread BM but drixx is your 2nd strongest scumread?

So you either think drixx is hardcore bussing as his only read, or this proves youre really not reading the game at all?

Which is it

I read them as individually scummy. That said I can't even begin to tell you the times I have seen a play push there scum buddy as a lynch and then teeter off of it.
Serious question. Do you really see Drixx pushing BM as hard as he is pushing you as a scum read?

[Drixx]

@Drixx, speaking of, you never answered my question, unless I missed it.

Vecna and momo hard defending battle mage like that is interesting. I can't see two teammates defending him so early in the game, unless he has a very powerful role. Though it could be that vecna is town and scum!momo jumped on vecna's defense of battle mage. Not sure what to think of the whole thing, but there's a good chance there's scum in it, probably either Drixx or Battle Mage/momo.

@Drixx, what are your thoughts on this? Do you think all 3 are scum? What are your thoughts on momo?

VOTE: Drixx

For ignoring me.

Like ... I already gave thoughts on all three. And then I've interacted more with Vecna since AND commented that BM took the opportunity of Vecna's smokescreen to avoid responding to me. What more you want?

[VaultDweller]

@Drixx, speaking of, you never answered my question, unless I missed it.

Vecna and momo hard defending battle mage like that is interesting. I can't see two teammates defending him so early in the game, unless he has a very powerful role. Though it could be that vecna is town and scum!momo jumped on vecna's defense of battle mage. Not sure what to think of the whole thing, but there's a good chance there's scum in it, probably either Drixx or Battle Mage/momo.

@Drixx, what are your thoughts on this? Do you think all 3 are scum? What are your thoughts on momo?

VOTE: Drixx

For ignoring me.

Like ... I already gave thoughts on all three. And then I've interacted more with Vecna since AND commented that BM took the opportunity of Vecna's smokescreen to avoid responding to me. What more you want?

Quotes please? Specifically the parts where you mention momo

[pisskop]

So you scumread BM but drixx is your 2nd strongest scumread?

So you either think drixx is hardcore bussing as his only read, or this proves youre really not reading the game at all?

oof

This is too good to want dead today.

[farside22]

So you scumread BM but drixx is your 2nd strongest scumread?

So you either think drixx is hardcore bussing as his only read, or this proves youre really not reading the game at all?

oof

This is too good to want dead today.

Why do you say that?

[pisskop]

I TR him

[farside22]

Bleh, nevermind Pisskop. I thought you were wanting Vecna dead.
I swear context is going to be my biggest issue

[pisskop]

lol welcomeback!

[Albert B. Rampage]

You think your PT is dead? The game thread is barely kicking. There are no bandwagons, no solid cases, no participation. I can tell Day 1 is going to not be lit. Let's lynch Vecna and be done with it.

[farside22]

lol welcomeback!

Thanks. I almost feel like a newb when I see some abbreviation and trying to remember them all.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I mean Pine, not Vecna.

[farside22]

You think your PT is dead? The game thread is barely kicking. There are no bandwagons, no solid cases, no participation. I can tell Day 1 is going to not be lit. Let's lynch Vecna and be done with it.

No thanks and you are voting Pine last i checked.

[pisskop]

meh

VOTE: pine

[davesaz]

So you scumread BM but drixx is your 2nd strongest scumread?

So you either think drixx is hardcore bussing as his only read, or this proves youre really not reading the game at all?

oof

This is too good to want dead today.

Dunno, the quoted post feels like a possible gotcha type play from scum. The question includes a false dichotomy given two scumreads don't have to be scum together.
Maybe you're right about the "today" part though.

[Vecna]

"Monotone"? What does that mean farside?

You don't read as a passionate player like others. I saw lots of one liners from you, very relaxed kind of play. I did catch something that I think it is a scum tell, but I'd rather not say unless I see it.

farside - why am I your 2nd strongest scum read?

I read your reaction to venca as fake. The association you put in there reads as over the top and invalid.

It's funny nor one person -other than EJ himself- commented on my referencing him saying almost the same thing in another game where he was scum. I get that scum don't want to deal with that one way or another (if he is scum it's best if they let it die, and if he is town then either town pushes through the mislynch or scum use it later to mislynch me). Now why did no TOWN player talk about that?

I checked more into ej as a player and i feel very unsure since they are very monotone playstyle.
So far all i get is a lot of meh.

Wagon bores me for now on EJ.
Next on my scum list.
VOTE: BM
Drixx would be second strongest scum read.

So you scumread BM but drixx is your 2nd strongest scumread?

So you either think drixx is hardcore bussing as his only read, or this proves youre really not reading the game at all?

Which is it

I read them as individually scummy. That said I can't even begin to tell you the times I have seen a play push there scum buddy as a lynch and then teeter off of it.
Serious question. Do you really see Drixx pushing BM as hard as he is pushing you as a scum read?

Thank you for your reply. Well reasoned

[farside22]

Was that sarcasm?

[Vecna]

So you scumread BM but drixx is your 2nd strongest scumread?

So you either think drixx is hardcore bussing as his only read, or this proves youre really not reading the game at all?

oof

This is too good to want dead today.

Dunno, the quoted post feels like a possible gotcha type play from scum. The question includes a false dichotomy given two scumreads don't have to be scum together.
Maybe you're right about the "today" part though.

Dave continues to be critical and calling out shit as he sees it.

[Vecna]

Was that sarcasm?

I get why you'd think that since I dont usually respond like that, but it wasnt

[Vecna]

And I agree with the sentiment that Drixx seems to have given up the BM wagon quite easily and preferred to focus on me.

We both focused on the same thing (the c/p of playerlist) but Drixx then engaged with me instead of BM over that and continued to push me instead (why me and not momo/bm?)

I hadn't looked at it from the angle of the initial scrutiny potentially being early distancing

[Drixx]

Context counts. Literally everyone who bothered to respond about BM was throwing a town read on him. Not really feeling trying to push someone through a wall of town reads. Not sure what he's done that warrants ANY read, but that's something to look at as the game progresses a bit further.

[Drixx]

Like ... my "read" on him consisted of questioning how on earth he thought "they used the word "like" in their post" was a good reason to vote someone. That's not much to go on. It was meant to get a response from BM but didn't.

[Hectic]

Detective "Detectic" Detective here with a prodgity prodge.

I'm pleased to see there haven't been any murders yet, though, it does make for a somewhat slow pace to the story. Now, don't get me wrong; I'm not

encouraging

any killings, but I'm sure I could turn a blind eye if there was the occasional GBH or two to spice up the story.

See you all in a couple.

[Elsa Jay]

Hectic is gonna be the Detective shot at the beginning of the Movie for doubting the protagonist. I feel it in my bones.