Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[eyestott]

Actually it would be a bit more suspicious than what I had as Paragon, but still less bad than Alo because Eye ignored Taly and handheld Alo in an engagement "explaining" the role.

Either way, from my PoV Taly is confirmed since you didn't hammer either.

I most definitely did not ignore Taly

[Paragon]

i didnt think it through too well from eye's POV which has made me slightly question the merit of lynching me here. guess i gotta go back to the newbie queue.

How is it different from your PoV or eyestott's PoV? How did your PoV show some indication that a check there would be useful?

[Churros]

By the way I know Paragon's identity now probably

Wait what, how?

I'm a magician

[Taly]

No. I’m sure that Churros is scum because of it were TvT, Alo and Taly would’ve hopped on either of us and won the game. This has not happened, therefore I have a 100% chance of hitting scum by vote parking.

you can literally make the same argument for you being conftown for

me/alo

not hopping onto you.

this assessment is confbias.

I don’t understand

you were voted by

churros

so

alo/I

-scum could've voted you and won, but you've never entertained the reality.

you going with the idea that

churros

is confscum based on the fact that

me/Alo

didn't hop on him is a stretch for the same reasons.

so, why is

churros

scum and you town? and why is MY vote scum-indicative, and

alo

not voting town-indicative?

[Taly]

Actually it would be a bit more suspicious than what I had as Paragon, but still less bad than Alo because Eye ignored Taly and handheld Alo in an engagement "explaining" the role.

Either way, from my PoV Taly is confirmed since you didn't hammer either.

I most definitely did not ignore Taly

want me to find all the posts where you have?

[Paragon]

Blake Belladonna has recently been agreeing with Battle Mage on Taly + Churros. popsofctown also pointed out that Churros voting Aloratom there and disregarding the possibility of eyestott + Taly completely is highly alarming.

[Taly]

i didnt think it through too well from eye's POV which has made me slightly question the merit of lynching me here. guess i gotta go back to the newbie queue.

How is it different from your PoV or eyestott's PoV? How did your PoV show some indication that a check there would be useful?

I guess I was a bit confbiased in that regard since I felt

Churros

was likely town for his approach to this dayphase AND prior to D2

so for

Eye

to push

Churros

off of either saying he's fakeclaiming or having a scum role felt like an easy stance for scum to default to, since he had no reason to confirm.

[Taly]

Blake Belladonna has recently been agreeing with Battle Mage on Taly + Churros. popsofctown also pointed out that Churros voting Aloratom there and disregarding the possibility of eyestott + Taly completely is highly alarming.

where's your vote?

[Churros]

Paragon

Can I like with all due respect just say

You're kinda way too inconfident/flakes too much on your reads and it's not something positive about your town game?

[eyestott]

eye

i didnt know you were going to flake on the

"why is

alo

town?"

question

please answer, even if you think

churros

is scum

Sorry, thought I was gonna sleep but didn’t!
I think alo is town because his interactions with Churros don’t ping me as SvS
He’s also only been at all suspicious once, which was his paranoid response to my town case on him. Yeah
But also, I don’t actually NEED to sort Taly/Alo today, because I know for a fact now that Churros is scum, and so tomorrow I’ll either be dead or I’ll have a conclusive result on Alo’s claim credibility.

[Taly]

para

, why do you keep acting as if every flipped person has an opinion of this game when you cant communicate them?

its easy to misconstrue what they would actually think into what YOU believe is the reality of the game.

[Paragon]

Is it bad too be unsure and consider all avenues in a game of mafia? I'm evaluating and hoping I'll come to the right decision at the end.

[Taly]

eye

i didnt know you were going to flake on the

"why is

alo

town?"

question

please answer, even if you think

churros

is scum

Sorry, thought I was gonna sleep but didn’t!
I think alo is town because his interactions with Churros don’t ping me as SvS
He’s also only been at all suspicious once, which was his paranoid response to my town case on him. Yeah
But also, I don’t actually NEED to sort Taly/Alo today, because I know for a fact now that Churros is scum, and so tomorrow I’ll either be dead or I’ll have a conclusive result on Alo’s claim credibility.

ok lets break that down

why isnt it SvS?

[Paragon]

para

, why do you keep acting as if every flipped person has an opinion of this game when you cant communicate them?

its easy to misconstrue what they would actually think into what YOU believe is the reality of the game.

Don't take those posts seriously, Taly. Just messing around there.

[Churros]

Eye is obvscum just by setup spec like FL was obvscum by setup spec as I caught him in my unique finished mini normal in this account

I repped in, saw his claim, said "guys that is scum"

he was scum and when I began to hardpush him confidently he just gave up and self-voted.

You've been here for more than one week probably asking questions already answered back there and just being indecisive and it's extremely boring to play just like it would be if I was in LyLo with FL and people were considering him as maybe town even though his claim was ridiculous when considering the rest of the setup.

This is all I'm going to say in this game for the rest of it. Choose whatever you want to, not going to blame you for it, but next time I look at a setup and say "this claim is ridiculous", it's ridiculous.

[Taly]

para

, why do you keep acting as if every flipped person has an opinion of this game when you cant communicate them?

its easy to misconstrue what they would actually think into what YOU believe is the reality of the game.

Don't take those posts seriously, Taly. Just messing around there.

ok good, just wanted you to make that distinction

<3

carry on with it

[Churros]

People were for 2 days flaking on FL when he was obvscum

I literally repped in and asked why they hadn't flashlynched FL

Paragon...neapolitan here. Really?

Like, really.

[eyestott]

No. I’m sure that Churros is scum because of it were TvT, Alo and Taly would’ve hopped on either of us and won the game. This has not happened, therefore I have a 100% chance of hitting scum by vote parking.

you can literally make the same argument for you being conftown for

me/alo

not hopping onto you.

this assessment is confbias.

I don’t understand

you were voted by

churros

so

alo/I

-scum could've voted you and won, but you've never entertained the reality.

you going with the idea that

churros

is confscum based on the fact that

me/Alo

didn't hop on him is a stretch for the same reasons.

so, why is

churros

scum and you town? and why is MY vote scum-indicative, and

alo

not voting town-indicative?

I’m so confused right now. From my POV the only way churros can be scum is if you and Alo are scum. And if that is the case, the game should’ve been over the instant you and Alo were online at the same time. Since the game is running cube only logical conclusion is that one of you is town, and I am in fact, in a TvS.

[Paragon]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

You know what'd be helpful, if I actually went looking for other 12 player games with 2 scum, and see what kind of roles are used balance-wise. Will do that later.

[Taly]

No. I’m sure that Churros is scum because of it were TvT, Alo and Taly would’ve hopped on either of us and won the game. This has not happened, therefore I have a 100% chance of hitting scum by vote parking.

you can literally make the same argument for you being conftown for

me/alo

not hopping onto you.

this assessment is confbias.

I don’t understand

you were voted by

churros

so

alo/I

-scum could've voted you and won, but you've never entertained the reality.

you going with the idea that

churros

is confscum based on the fact that

me/Alo

didn't hop on him is a stretch for the same reasons.

so, why is

churros

scum and you town? and why is MY vote scum-indicative, and

alo

not voting town-indicative?

I’m so confused right now. From my POV the only way churros can be scum is if you and Alo are scum. And if that is the case, the game should’ve been over the instant you and Alo were online at the same time. Since the game is running cube only logical conclusion is that one of you is town, and I am in fact, in a TvS.

im even more confused

when was

Churros/Alo/Taly

a thing of possibility D3 and why???

and why is

Churros

the confscum here and not either me or

Alo

?

[Paragon]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

You know what'd be helpful, if I actually went looking for other 12 player games with 2 scum, and see what kind of roles are used balance-wise. Will do that later.

Because neapolitan + 1-shot vig is fine if you and Taly are a rolecop and a roleblocker for example.

[Taly]

but i am bulletproof

[eyestott]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

You know what'd be helpful, if I actually went looking for other 12 player games with 2 scum, and see what kind of roles are used balance-wise. Will do that later.

Paragon, don’t make the assumption that every game is balanced. This day is dragging out enough
Make your vote quickly because this is actually quite taxing

[Paragon]

It’s 1am! I’m committed to speaking with you!
And yeah, I’m about 70% sure you’re town now
But my read on you is irrelevant because if we lynch correctly today I can just investigate you tonight.

That's true. I would be the logical choice. The only choice, really.

This is the worst interaction I saw from eyestott-Aloratom btw.

[Paragon]

Paragon, don’t make the assumption that every game is balanced. This day is dragging out enough
Make your vote quickly because this is actually quite taxing

Sorry, I shouldn't even be here right now; I still don't have the time.

You guys don't need to talk/discuss stuff. I'll come back in a couple of days to read and make a decision. Apologies for the wait.