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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:52 am

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1. Do you recall any previous instance of directly scumreading someone when there's -a lack of explanation- instead of asking for one?

3. It's a mindset thing. I disagree that you would play the coasting scumgame you did in that Newbie here for a variety of reasons, lol. Unless you're saying this level of involvement is outside your scum "range" entirely, this would be a fruitless comparison. :P plus, here I am engaging you myself. But fine: I'll hold off on my push, and see how your involvement shapes up.

It's obviously a cost benefit regarding the evidence. Here the difference in contexts muddles reliability, of course I'd expect scum!you here to behave much differently from there anyway. :)
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:13 am

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In post 339, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 331, Allomancer wrote:
In post 314, acryon wrote:@Allomancer When you come back, what are your thoughts on how your wagon has progressed and how people have reacted to it? Just about everyone, even those outside of it, have responded to it in some way.
I'm not really too concerned about it. I feel like every game I've played lately, whether I've been town or scum, has lead to an early day 1 wagon on me.
can you link me to a town game or two where you were a significant D1 wagon?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10650012

This is from a while ago, but I took about a year break from Mafia and just recently started playing again.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:21 am

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Even if it's true it doesn't change much to the previous points brought up and thus is an irrelevant defense.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:14 am

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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:48 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eve
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:56 am

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Hi yall - apologies for lack of posts today. I'm really burnt out from work atm and need a bit of time to just be a vegetable. Ideally will be back in ~24 hours or shortly after.

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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:05 pm

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In post 330, Auro wrote:VOTE: Eve
In post 354, BBmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eve
What prompted these votes?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:12 pm

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exactly Allomancer you raise a very good point there
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm

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Auro why are you volunteering to be off the wagon when you know you're town?
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:53 pm

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In post 356, Allomancer wrote:
In post 330, Auro wrote:VOTE: Eve
In post 354, BBmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eve
What prompted these votes?
I disliked their last three posts
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:53 pm

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In post 358, Eve wrote:Auro why are you volunteering to be off the wagon when you know you're town?
He could then be confirmed town by the Traffic Analyst

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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:57 pm

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VOTE: BBMolla

having potential scum be checked should be a lot more useful to you than yourself being cleared
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:59 pm

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In post 361, Eve wrote:VOTE: BBMolla

having potential scum be checked should be a lot more useful to you than yourself being cleared
I'm confused?

your voting BB but critizing auro? or am i interpreting this wrong?
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:00 pm

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Are you voting me because you disagree with my off wagon logic
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:18 pm

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yeah i don't like the way you stepped in to defend Auro there
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:19 pm

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Okay
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:58 pm

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In post 358, Eve wrote:Auro why are you volunteering to be off the wagon when you know you're town?
So you guys can know I'm town. ;)
I think personally I'm a difficult read.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:31 pm

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In post 291, nomnomnom wrote:I think I disagree. That post in particular shows a nuanced thought over a player. If a scum isn't a stream-of-consciousness machine, they mostly produce content that is fairly one sided on people and tend to categorize as GOOD, BAD or WISHY-WASHY. Producing a post that goes like "I heavily disagree with what you say and here's why... but I think I townread you" takes either a townie mind, or a scum that understands how to properly replicate that kind of nuance, which is honestly hard as fuck.
meh, i can kinda see what you like about it but i disagree
In post 291, nomnomnom wrote:If we're talking about suspect timing, I'd recommend checking the progression of Allo regarding Eve and Acryon. Suddenly understood eve was shitposting when I said it was shitposting, and suddenly produces a real vote and thought on a player when I accused him of not doing that, on a player everyone more or less suspected previously. That timing and progression is just really bad. I think that the wagon forming really fast is just due to conversational missteps from Allo rather than having scum support. That's my inner feeling on this one.
for the eve bit, he understood that eve was shitposting in like his second post, wherein i asked him if his initial vote on eve was serious, and his suspicion of her is p consistent throughout
like if he's scum does he decide to unvote eve there just cuz you did?

i do agree with you that his acryon vote was p awful tho

also as i'm rereading through your/allo's interaction i just realized that for some reason i thought 5 votes was hammer, not 6

i thought gl had placed the l-2 vote, and that eve had done l-1, and it felt faster to me than it actually was, i think.
and it felt kinda off in that everyone was just fine with this l-1 wagon springing up in like a page and a half
which made me think there was a p decent chance that there was some scum involvement or support for it, so i went looking for it

but what i thought had happened is not what actually had happened
so i don't think that this line of thought is, like, relevant really
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:39 pm

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In post 294, Auro wrote:
In post 262, skitter30 wrote:i don't have a solid read yet. auro seems to think he's good at reading her, which is why i'd like to hear a bit more about why he's townreading her
I don't think that. :P
I've already listed reasoning for why I townread her, no? Do you want me to explain that a bit more?
i think i'm having some trouble getting into this game; bits and pieces of it keep escaping me, sorry :(

i actually didn't remember that you'd already given reasons for it
as far as i can tell, it's mostly ?
i'm not sure i really agree with your read on her personality tbh, she doesn't strike me as being afraid of starting a fight with really anyone as scum
also i think that as scum she'd kinda want to try to pocket me
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:43 pm

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In post 295, Eve wrote:what do you think of my vote on allomancer skitter i thought it was pretty impressive
i thought it was inane and like you were trying to catch him in a contradiction
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:55 pm

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ok sorry i'm going to try this again tomorrow
i keep reading things and like nothing is sticking in my head
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:56 pm

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I don’t think we should follow through with the allomancer lynch. Whilst his ISO isn’t
good
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:11 pm

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Sausage sounds like a robot trying to sound human
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:30 pm

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In my experience, that is his style. I like it :D
Reminds me of Volxen.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:39 pm

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