Open 777: Switch (Town Wins)

[Black Ranger]

A lot of Knightmare's content feels empty and like he's looking for stances to take instead of pushing what he believes. His NDMath vote is an example of what I mean there. Things like NDMath answering a question posed to him while saying he wants to drop the conversation just... aren't that scummy? And it doesn't feel like something that he'd believe actually makes NDMath scum.
And I played with Knightmare briefly in a recent Newbie game and didn't notice anything like this.

A quick dive on this game shows me they're really abrasive when they tunnel. How fakeable is his tunnel on NDMath here?

[Black Ranger]

I'm having a hard time finding the game you're referring to.

Meant to say Open 704.

[Black Ranger]

VOTE: Knight I still believe Looker is scum but there isn't much traction there.

Is Looker the sort of player to miss a vote like Nips'?

Thoughts on Knight pushing NDMath in response to Maria voting Nips?

[TheWizard]

Knightmare491 (4):

Klick, Elmo TeH AzN, chkflip, NDMath

NDMath (3):

Knightmare491, Looker, Raya36

MariaR (2):

Dunnstral, Tanner

Tanner (1):

MariaR

Emperor flippyNips (1):

Black Ranger

Not Voting (1):

Emperor flippyNips

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-04-25 05:10:00)

[Dunnstral]

I'm not team hunting though, plus sk wouldn't have a partner anyway. To me you look like not town, figuring out teams isn't something I do before anti town flips

I don't think I'm using buzzwords or "saying stuff to look better".

Does scum Maria leave NDMath in this color in 204 and refuse to acknowledge it? See my 252.

I don't think that makes her town. That's not a reason I scumread her

[TheWizard]

Tanner has been replaced for inactivity.

[Raya36]

I'm having a hard time finding the game you're referring to.

Meant to say Open 704.

This was 3 years ago so hard to meta read based on that. But she was much less active and very defensive. She also slipped and said "you" when referring to town. She's not acting the same here but again, that was 3 years ago.

[chkflip]

@mod: hate to be "that guy" but with all these replace outs and what not, any way we could extend the phase?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I'm having a hard time finding the game you're referring to.

Meant to say Open 704.

This was 3 years ago so hard to meta read based on that. But she was much less active and very defensive. She also slipped and said "you" when referring to town. She's not acting the same here but again, that was 3 years ago.

3 years ago and the last time this setup was played. Interesting to note I was in the last setup of this as well. I mean I did leave the site for like a year or two.

[Raya36]

It's close to deadline. Nothing is really happening. There's a leading wagon. Would it be fair to say scum is ok with this wagon?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

It seems so. Or everyone's happy with it at least in some way shape or form.

[Raya36]

So what I'm saying is if knight was scum I'd expect some sort of resistance

[Klick]

Knight looks good. He's in a tunnel and his tone comes off like he really believes the read.

What do you mean? Maria/Dunn/Black Ranger have all put up resistance to this wagon to different degrees, and there are nine people not voting there. There's currently a wagon at 3 as well.

[chkflip]

The traction is your vote on the fucking counter wagon, Raya.

Also, "Why isn't there traction?" is a dog shit excuse for a question when over half the game is lurksacking and we need 2 slots replaced.

[chkflip]

is also your timely vote*

[Klick]

Knight looks good. He's in a tunnel and his tone comes off like he really believes the read.

What do you mean? Maria/Dunn/Black Ranger have all put up resistance to this wagon to different degrees, and there are nine people not voting there. There's currently a wagon at 3 as well.

Oh that quote shouldn't be there lol

[Klick]

A lot of Knightmare's content feels empty and like he's looking for stances to take instead of pushing what he believes. His NDMath vote is an example of what I mean there. Things like NDMath answering a question posed to him while saying he wants to drop the conversation just... aren't that scummy? And it doesn't feel like something that he'd believe actually makes NDMath scum.
And I played with Knightmare briefly in a recent Newbie game and didn't notice anything like this.

A quick dive on this game shows me they're really abrasive when they tunnel. How fakeable is his tunnel on NDMath here?

When playing that game it wast his tunneling that I townread, it was more that he seemed to be getting genuinely upset that he was getting scumread in a way that felt like he knew people were wrong about him. Whereas here, posts like 277 don't give me that impression - he seems more annoyed that my logic against him doesn't look sound than he does about me potentially being wrong about him.

I'm flat-out not seeing your point on the ND tunnel thing. Nothing in his push looks hard to fake at all. If you think that, you're gonna have to show me what you see.

[Klick]

I feel rather good about a Knightmare lynch right this second and I'd appreciate if I was followed there today.

[Raya36]

Knight looks good. He's in a tunnel and his tone comes off like he really believes the read.

What do you mean? Maria/Dunn/Black Ranger have all put up resistance to this wagon to different degrees, and there are nine people not voting there. There's currently a wagon at 3 as well.

I mean more that it built up really quick without much stopping it. And now there isn't much against it.

The traction is your vote on the fucking counter wagon, Raya.

Also, "Why isn't there traction?" is a dog shit excuse for a question when over half the game is lurksacking and we need 2 slots replaced.

Just a thought I had

[Klick]

I mean more that it built up really quick without much stopping it. And now there isn't much against it.

Eh, the first three voters all expressed interest right before we voted three in a row.
And like I said, there is resistance. Not much, but it's not super typical for scum to hard-defend their buddies, particularly so early.

[Looker]

That's what I said...

I was clarifying because what you said was kind of vague.

For me it's mostly his attack on me and the related posts -- I don't really understand coming from town.

Do you disagree with specific points? Because this looks like OMGUS.

What do you mean? Maria/Dunn/Black Ranger have all put up resistance to this wagon to different degrees, and there are nine people not voting there.

I count eight.

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• @Macabre/Solon: NDMath got up to 4 just like Knightmare, just like Maria
  
• @Elmo: Are you scumreading me because of my...happiness...?
  Spoiler: Hopefully irrelevant aside if it helps

  My mom just came out of chemo and survived a double mastectomy, and I also just won a base-wide award, so yeah, my confidence is going to be on 10 at this point. Also, I play this game to have fun and relax, so I don't understand why me jaunting about it would be scummy. Obviously take this with a grain of salt, but I wanted to express somewhere why I'm not accepting a penalty for being happy for once.
  
  
• @Black Ranger: I'm pretty sure I tunneled her in that game, so this is probably payback - Nomnomnom and I go through the same thing
  • Also, I don't understand this post - what are you asserting about me?

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips
This is an active lurk slot that hasn't been called out once - I propose we lynch it. He hasn't voted once (legitimately) or offered an opinion on anything.

[Looker]

@MOD: Will Emperor flippyNips be being prodded/replaced?

[chkflip]

Emperor flippyNips has been replaced for inactivity.

*cough*

Choose a real wagon, sport.

[Looker]

What admirable condescension. We need more time then, because Emperor didn't even engage when he was present and I asked him to.

@MOD: Request a deadline extension

We still have three killing roles

[chkflip]

VOTE: tanner

How is this vote illegitimate?