Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anyway, in other news, Hectic is scum.

[Almost50]

I don't even know what traitor crumb your talking about anyway. Do you mean me bringing up the idea the neighborhood could've been for the traitor to talk to the main group scum?

Not "just" that. You did mention it AGAIN a couple of posts later, and then AGAIN addressing PK

the hoods would probably be used to allow a traitor to talk to their teammates otherwise if they kill the other person in said hood.

Initial mention that could be seen as justified setup spec

I almost wanna say a traitor is a given

Second time which is more assertive there is one.

Then again I've played too many Boon games and think it's him or Almost running this game, so I'll assume the more common thing and say they're just together in general. Or the 4 plus traitor thing.

Less assertive tone, but considering the mere times of mentions it sounds mire assertive than it should have been taken separately

Pisskop is the traitor.

Case closed.

AGAIN.. you seem persistent in asserting there

has to be

one

Because its Saw. If Hoffman isn't a Traitor or something, it'll be weird to me.

A "late" explanation that would have looked MUCH less sus if it was brought up in the original mention or soon after.

So, in sum you are confident there is a Traitor, and you "later" found a reason to justify such belief. To me this sound

very much

like Traitor!you announcing their

presence

identity to the main team

@dave: Did he crumb it like THIS? I mean, a link would make it easier for me to check for myself, or even the full game's name and mod

[Almost50]

Seems I have to be the one to point this out again. The game has an advertised town:scum ratio.
In a non-bastard game advertised with a specific town:scum ratio, I don't think a traitor is possible. Unless you're trying to argue it's 4 groupscum+traitor which would be a massive difference in balance.

I am sure 4 scum in a PT who are told they have a Traitor + a Traitor who is told who their 4 team members are doesn't cross the borderline.

[Almost50]

Almo, are 457 and 776, and 891 your reasons for wanting to lynch Elsa? A traitor crumb, foreshadowing that he's scum WHILE there's a wagon on him, and the fact his scumgame is stronger than his towngame?

True, but mainly the Traitor crumb.

she crumbed traitor in lnt too, as town
i would usually like to sheep you when you get a strong read like this, but i am worried you are wrong this time

Oops! Sorry @dave. The question about the game name and a link should be directed @xtoxm

[Pine]

Anyway, in other news, Hectic is scum.

Argument from repetition doesn't make your shit case any better, nor does badgering me to support you in our neighborhood make me any more likely to do so.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't care what you think, Pine. The smart players can look at his posts and make up their mind.

[Hectic]

Want to actually give some reasoning for this, Albert? You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.

It's possible you're doing

that thing

here, but I'm no mind reader.

[Hectic]

Almo, don't you think that's far too blatant from Elsa? Joan's was far more subtle and still got her eventually lynched. You think he wouldn't be a little wary being in that game and seeing people including you push her heavily for that?

Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.

[Almost50]

@Hectic: Why would he be wary when evidently NOBODY is buying my case on him still, even those who do SR him for other reasons.

[Almost50]

I am willing to make a deal with you all: Lynch EJ. If he isn't a Traitor you can lynch me tomorrow. Is that good enough for you?

[Xtoxm]

lol no
im not gonna lynch you for being wrong abt ej

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am willing to make a deal with you all: Lynch EJ. If he isn't a Traitor you can lynch me tomorrow. Is that good enough for you?

no

[Xtoxm]

@a50 here is the link. you were in the game so i thought you might remember.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10633418

[Albert B. Rampage]

You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.

You disagreed with me in post 969 about something I said in post 329. I'm over it, Hectic... LOL

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm 99% certain that Hectic is scum. This is our lynch today. I can see you guys are having a hard time pushing a bandwagon beyond 3 votes, so I'll try to reduce my activity for the final 7 days until we can consolidate around Hectic.

[Hectic]

You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.

You disagreed with me in post 969 about something I said in post 329. I'm over it, Hectic... LOL

It was a catchup, why is that relevant to you scumreading me?

[Hectic]

I'm 99% certain that Hectic is scum. This is our lynch today. I can see you guys are having a hard time pushing a bandwagon beyond 3 votes, so I'll try to reduce my activity for the final 7 days until we can consolidate around Hectic.

Are you actually not kidding around here? Want to give some reasons? Though I do appreciate this plot progression, I'm sure the audience are on the edge of their seats.

[GuiltyLion]

Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.

so do you think both of them are scum together or what?

I'm trying to chew on this thought process here - my initial gut reaction was that it seemed plainly disingenuous to push A50 while saying "I also scumread your main scum read, but just for different reasons", but then the more I thought about it the more I'm thinking scum probably doesn't make this up because it's so on the surface inconsistent?

can I get crowd opinions on this one? I'm entirely unsure how I feel about it

[davesaz]

@dave: Did he crumb it like THIS? I mean, a link would make it easier for me to check for myself, or even the full game's name and mod

Someone else made that comment.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.

so do you think both of them are scum together or what?

I'm trying to chew on this thought process here - my initial gut reaction was that it seemed plainly disingenuous to push A50 while saying "I also scumread your main scum read, but just for different reasons", but then the more I thought about it the more I'm thinking scum probably doesn't make this up because it's so on the surface inconsistent?

can I get crowd opinions on this one? I'm entirely unsure how I feel about it

Congratulations! You are off my scum list and can join my town block against Hectic.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hectic's posts in the last 24 hours guarantee he is scum. His thought progression simply makes no sense unless he is scum.

[Hectic]

Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.

so do you think both of them are scum together or what?

I'm trying to chew on this thought process here - my initial gut reaction was that it seemed plainly disingenuous to push A50 while saying "I also scumread your main scum read, but just for different reasons", but then the more I thought about it the more I'm thinking scum probably doesn't make this up because it's so on the surface inconsistent?

can I get crowd opinions on this one? I'm entirely unsure how I feel about it

No, they're both independent reads. I don't team-solve day 1.

[Almost50]

.

Ok. I did a quick ISO (highlighted "Traitor") and he straight up said "@Mafia: I might be an informed traitor so don't shoot me", and was much less certain there is a traitor to begin with. That is so much different that

asserting

there is one here.

But you know what? This looks like a losing battle for me, so let me know if you have a good case on someone else (good case = doesn't include the words "gut" or "feel")

[Hectic]

Almo, is your Elsa read also based on meta? Has Elsa so blatantly crumbed like this before as scum?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Almo, is your Elsa read also based on meta? Has Elsa so blatantly crumbed like this before as scum?

WHY ARE YOU REPLYING 1 SECOND AFTER HIS POST BUT DID NOT SEE THE LINK TO THE OTHER GAME WHERE EJ CLAIMED TRAITOR

YOU ARE POSTING FOR POSTING'S SAKE

YOU ARE SCUM