Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Almost50]

Hectic's posts in the last 24 hours guarantee he is scum. His thought progression simply makes no sense unless he is scum.

I personally thought he was town from before, but I am unable to follow his thought process if late. That said, it's not uncommon for me to fail to see Hectic's logic in general, and it's even more common for him to SR me "just because..".

It could help if you could explain a bit further on why this must be a scum thought process over Hectic being himself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

How is it that the only one picking up on Hectic claiming scum is GL?

[Almost50]

Almo, is your Elsa read also based on meta? Has Elsa so blatantly crumbed like this before as scum?

If you're not reading, please don't ask! I already talked about his blatant scum crumbs/claims before, and he responded with "that was old me under Jay Dragon"

[Hectic]

Ah, sorry, Almo, I didn't see that post. Will have a look now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I really HATE to explain myself unless we will lose if I don't. It's much better for me to give a few hints and then solve the rest of the game based on reactions. If in a few real life days nobody has figured out why Hectic is scum, I will write the case myself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Or we could always give him a pass and try to lynch his teammates to give scum a fighting chance, because they are royally screwed in this game.

[Almost50]

How is it that the only one picking up on Hectic claiming scum is GL?

I never claimed Hectic was one of the players I consider "most readable" to me. He confuses me most of the time, and he goes from extremely fluffy to reasonably serious from one game to another, so I don't even have a solid meta base to read him with precision.

Please point me to where he claimed scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey, Blake, can you give me an example of Dave reacting very poorly and creating a toxic gamestate while he was pushed as scum?

Almo, are 457 and 776, and 891 your reasons for wanting to lynch Elsa? A traitor crumb, foreshadowing that he's scum WHILE there's a wagon on him, and the fact his scumgame is stronger than his towngame?

.3.

Now that's one I haven't seen before. Some nice foreshadowing.

The Mass Spec Analytical has changed their minds on Vecna. He's pointed out things they found towny on more than one occasion.

Almost I'm starting to think your going out of your way to try and make the vigilante(s) waste a shot on me. Usually you've just left me alone day 1 and such because I'm "entertaining". I think your just trying to detract from the other potential wagons today.

This post doesn't really fill me with confidence regarding Elsa though. I mean, I agree that Almo is scummy, but the reasoning here is iffy.

VOTE: Almost50

[Almost50]

Or we could always give him a pass and try to lynch his teammates to give scum a fighting chance, because they are royally screwed in this game.

I mean if you have a solve, or are close to having one, then I will wait for you to figure things out and then follow your lead. I don't think flash lynching Hectic (assuming he is scum) gives us enough info about his team, so I'd rather keep the day going for another 72 hours or so

[davesaz]

How is it that the only one picking up on Hectic claiming scum is GL?

Patience, grasshopper.
I had to go back and re-read some stuff that I skimmed earlier in the day while on meetings and trying to run software tests.
It all clicks a lot better when read in slow-mo and not super distracted. That's a mighty good find.

VOTE: Hectic

Pedit: flash lynch? We're only at 3-4. No danger yet.

[Almost50]

@ABR: Are you talking about his question to Blake about dave when he had earlier been seesawing dave? Or are you talking about him SRing EJ but opting to vote me instead?

P-edit: If dave can see it, then I guess I'll sheep (although it would still be nice to know why I'm voting him eventually)

[davesaz]

It's the latter part.

[Hectic]

I'm so confused right now! I really don't understand why it's unreasonable to be suspicious of two individuals, while one of them suspects the other.

[Pine]

This Hectic wagon is ass.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This Hectic wagon is ass.

nobody cares about your claim.

[davesaz]

In that post that ABR quoted, it looks like Hectic shifts gears in the middle like he wanted the conclusion and had to find something to get there.

[davesaz]

Thinking back on it, first time I read that post I had to start a paragraph over because it suddenly stopped making sense. I thought at the time that I just lost concentration because of work.

[Hectic]

In that post that ABR quoted, it looks like Hectic shifts gears in the middle like he wanted the conclusion and had to find something to get there.

What do you mean? The post was made up of skimming through around 15 to 20 pages. I liked Vecna because of pointing out towny things I agreed with like expressing Blake was town for wanting to avoid a Dave toxic gamestate.

What was the weird shift?

[BBmolla]

I need a VC

[Battle Mage]

I need a WC

Because I'm gonna be unleashing a whole load of poop in this place in a minute!

[Almost50]

OK. Let's see how this goes.

Reminder: There is no guarantee the Traitor returns a guilty to an Alignment Cop (and I'm not even sure there is an Alignment Cop to begin with. but it's likely). This is because there are many variations of the Traitor Role and this is not a Normal Game.

That said, a ROLE COP should return "Traitor" here (If my suspicions are spot on). A FLAVOUR Cop would probably return "whomever EJ claimed had to be a Traitor". Not even sure how wise it is for a Vig to shoot EJ since one of the variations is BP (that one probably cannot get recruited, and hence

THE IDEA OF KILLING SOMEONE TO HAVE THE PT FOR THEMSELVES MAKES MORE SENSE AGAIN!

The problem with the italics/capitalized is EH claimed NOT to be in a PT himself.

[SirCakez]

I need a VC

Did I hear.....

VC?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Votecount 1.10

Drixx (3) - Blake Belladonna, VaultDweller, Pine
Battle Mage (2) - iDanyboy, farside22
Hectic (2) - momo, Albert B. Rampage
davesaz (2) - GuiltyLion, Morning Tweet
BBmolla (2) - Vecna, GeorgeBailey
Elsa Jay (2) - Almost50, davesaz
iDanyboy (2) - Battle Mage, Elsa Jay
Vecna (1) - Drixx
GuiltyLion (1) - Gamma Emerald
Pine (1) - pisskop
farside22 (1) - xtoxm
xtoxm (1) - BBmolla
Almost50 (1) - Hectic

Not voting (0)

(expired on 2020-05-01 15:10:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

VaultDweller is V/LA through Tuesday, April 28.
Hectic is V/LA through Friday, April 24.

"Find the path through the razor-wire to the door. But hurry. At three o'clock that door will lock and then this room becomes your tomb. How much blood will you shed to stay alive, Paul?"

Dave and I voted Hectic since this VC. No other votes/unvotes were made.

[SirCakez]

[SirCakez]