Open 777: Switch (Town Wins)

[chkflip]

Furthermore, why did you drop the second-most wagon for a lynch on someone who isn't here to defend themself?

[Klick]

Spoiler: Hopefully irrelevant aside if it helps

My mom just came out of chemo and survived a double mastectomy, and I also just won a base-wide award, so yeah, my confidence is going to be on 10 at this point. Also, I play this game to have fun and relax, so I don't understand why me jaunting about it would be scummy. Obviously take this with a grain of salt, but I wanted to express somewhere why I'm not accepting a penalty for being happy for once.

Hey, that's awesome. I've had similar good news in the last few months. Don't worry about it - if you're having fun, that's really all that matters.

I wouldn't support an Emperor lynch. Why don't you join the Knightmare wagon, Looker?

[Dunnstral]

Maria feels very calm tonally, is that normal for her as any alignment?
@Anyone who's played with her before

I thought this was some good insight

I don't think Ndmath is likely to be scum either.

What are the chances we can get Maria today?

[Klick]

Maria is my backup for when we don't have enough active town players to push this wagon through

[Klick]

Maria feels very calm tonally, is that normal for her as any alignment?
@Anyone who's played with her before

I thought this was some good insight

I'm glad you bring this post up though

What is Knightmare's read on Maria? From what I can tell he has totally avoided giving a read on her. She was the top wagon when he made this post. Thinking about it this post feels really removed from the Maria wagon in a way that looks pretty scummy with either Maria-town or Maria-scum (if Maria-town, it reads as trying to justify jumping on later; if Maria-scum, it reads as distancing).

[TheWizard]

Knightmare491 (4):

Klick, Elmo TeH AzN, chkflip, NDMath

NDMath (2):

Knightmare491, Raya36

MariaR (2):

Dunnstral, Tanner

Emperor flippyNips (2):

Black Ranger, Looker

Tanner (1):

MariaR

Not Voting (1):

Emperor flippyNips

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-04-25 05:10:00)

[TheWizard]

@mod: hate to be "that guy" but with all these replace outs and what not, any way we could extend the phase?

@MOD: Request a deadline extension

The deadline will not be extended.

[chkflip]

Hahahaha I honestly respect that. I wouldn't want to extend for a core of people that only generated nine pages in the span of most of D1 before people started replacing in either.

More Knight votes.

[Dunnstral]

Maria feels very calm tonally, is that normal for her as any alignment?
@Anyone who's played with her before

I thought this was some good insight

I'm glad you bring this post up though

What is Knightmare's read on Maria? From what I can tell he has totally avoided giving a read on her. She was the top wagon when he made this post. Thinking about it this post feels really removed from the Maria wagon in a way that looks pretty scummy with either Maria-town or Maria-scum (if Maria-town, it reads as trying to justify jumping on later; if Maria-scum, it reads as distancing).

Fair point. I don't feel strongly about the rest of their posts either way, I think NDmath is less likely to be scum than Knightmare, so I'd vote Knightmare just to get a lynch

[Knightmare491]

A lot of Knightmare's content feels empty and like he's looking for stances to take instead of pushing what he believes. His NDMath vote is an example of what I mean there. Things like NDMath answering a question posed to him while saying he wants to drop the conversation just... aren't that scummy? And it doesn't feel like something that he'd believe actually makes NDMath scum.
And I played with Knightmare briefly in a recent Newbie game and didn't notice anything like this.

A quick dive on this game shows me they're really abrasive when they tunnel. How fakeable is his tunnel on NDMath here?

When playing that game it wast his tunneling that I townread, it was more that he seemed to be getting genuinely upset that he was getting scumread in a way that felt like he knew people were wrong about him. Whereas here, posts like 277 don't give me that impression - he seems more annoyed that my logic against him doesn't look sound than he does about me potentially being wrong about him.

I'm flat-out not seeing your point on the ND tunnel thing. Nothing in his push looks hard to fake at all. If you think that, you're gonna have to show me what you see.

Difference is that game the person accusing me was kind of in a death tunnel and it did not feel like he was scum. Which is why I was upset.
I don't feel the same about your slot.

[Knightmare491]

Maria feels very calm tonally, is that normal for her as any alignment?
@Anyone who's played with her before

I thought this was some good insight

I'm glad you bring this post up though

What is Knightmare's read on Maria? From what I can tell he has totally avoided giving a read on her. She was the top wagon when he made this post. Thinking about it this post feels really removed from the Maria wagon in a way that looks pretty scummy with either Maria-town or Maria-scum (if Maria-town, it reads as trying to justify jumping on later; if Maria-scum, it reads as distancing).

I think it's obvious from my post that I'm TLing Maria because of her tone. "Tone is too calm for someone who's scum and suddenly under pressure with deadline approaching"
Which is why I asked if that is AI for Maria

[NDMath]

The vote itself is fine. Re-reading I'm getting doubts about his interaction with tanner right before that though.

The vote was terrible because Tanner was trying to start something with regards to the switch mechanic and basing it as a reason to vote is only scum intentioned (because if you weren't thinking critically about the game you wouldn't care). Tanner was doing a something there to provoke TMI.

Huh. That's not something I realize Tanner was doing until you point it out.
I can agree that vote's timing isn't good though it's still something town could do.

Looker is townier because I'm understanding some of their thought process better now and Raya is scummier mostly from their kind of awkward scumread on knightmare.

I'm not seeing much I can do to help guarantee a hang but I'll check this again in an hour.

[Knightmare491]

I don't mind voting for Emperor, it's a lurker slot, but I'd rather lynch math.

[chkflip]

8.5 hours y'all.

Knight or Math. Make a fucking decision.

I'll happily clap back to Maria without issue but y'all need to stop talking about it and be about it.

[NDMath]

eeh we are gonna be cutting this super close.

[Dunnstral]

Maria feels very calm tonally, is that normal for her as any alignment?
@Anyone who's played with her before

I thought this was some good insight

I'm glad you bring this post up though

What is Knightmare's read on Maria? From what I can tell he has totally avoided giving a read on her. She was the top wagon when he made this post. Thinking about it this post feels really removed from the Maria wagon in a way that looks pretty scummy with either Maria-town or Maria-scum (if Maria-town, it reads as trying to justify jumping on later; if Maria-scum, it reads as distancing).

I think it's obvious from my post that I'm TLing Maria because of her tone. "Tone is too calm for someone who's scum and suddenly under pressure with deadline approaching"
Which is why I asked if that is AI for Maria

I didn't pick up on that

[Klick]

Let's just vote Knightmare.
The things people see as towntells are shaky at best and 'but would he do this?'s that hold little water
Meanwhile, chkflip and I at least both seem rather confident.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Knightmare491

We have to lynch today, I don't think Ndmath is scum.

[Raya36]

Well we need a lunch so VOTE: Knightmare491

[chkflip]

That's L-1 Knight. You can claim a PR if you'd like but a this point it's you or nobody, so. Shouldn't have flailed.

[Klick]

Welp. Hour and a half to get a hammer.

[Dunnstral]

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Well this was a fun day.

[TheWizard]

Knightmare491 (6):

Klick, Elmo TeH AzN, chkflip, NDMath, Dunnstral, Raya36

Emperor flippyNips (2):

Black Ranger, Looker

NDMath (1):

Knightmare491

MariaR (1):

Tanner

Tanner (1):

MariaR

Not Voting (1):

Emperor flippyNips

No one will be lynched today.

Night will be paused pending the two replacements. This pause will not last longer than 48 hours.

[TheWizard]

havingfitz is replacing Emperor flippyNips.