Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

Battle Mage · Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:46 pm

the monkey is playing mafia...interesting...

Battle Mage · Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:46 pm

what a page topper!

ISO · Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:01 pm

BM, you got any rapid fire thoughts on the thread as of yet?

Battle Mage · Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:32 pm

rapid fire thoughts - not sure of ABR's alignment, but willing to give benefit of the doubt for now as if he's town he'll be a big asset. Almost50's behaviour is odd - some meta would be valuable here.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:35 pm

What has A50 been doing that’s odd? I consider myself a bit of an authority on his meta.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:37 pm

In post 1079, Gamma Emerald wrote:What has A50 been doing that’s odd? I consider myself a bit of an authority on his meta.

Perfect, you're just in time.

What is his meta?

Battle Mage · Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:38 pm

In post 1079, Gamma Emerald wrote:What has A50 been doing that’s odd? I consider myself a bit of an authority on his meta.

also did you intend this to sound as defensive as it came across? or were you aiming for neutral?

Battle Mage · Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:38 pm

within next 12 hours, I will do something crazy in this place, it's ok to get excited!

ISO · Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:46 pm

In post 1082, Battle Mage wrote:within next 12 hours, I will do something crazy in this place, it's ok to get excited!

ooh i'm getting excited already! \(≧∀≦)/

Pine · Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:40 pm

In post 1074, Almost50 wrote:@Pine: Maybe you can explain why it is a bad wagon? I mean, I've heard from the prosecutors and decided the case made sense. Now what are the defence arguments?

The reasons are thin and unconvincing, and people are just like, "Okay let's do it," when there are better cases.

GeorgeBailey · Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:35 pm

In post 1072, iDanyboy wrote:VOTE: Hectic
Not a bad wagon.

In post 1057, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Hectic

In post 1034, davesaz wrote:VOTE: Hectic

Pedit: flash lynch? We're only at 3-4. No danger yet.

Hectic is a bad wagon because of votes like these. No reasoning behind them, other than it's a good wagon.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:20 am

We aren't announcing the reasons because we want to see who is town enough to see what we saw. The case is there. Watch the red flag. We talked about it indirectly. Hectic is waving the red flag more fanatically than communists at a workers day parade with their lives on the line if they don't show enough enthusiasm.

Hectic · Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:50 am

Unless this is a long drawn out reaction test, Albert is probably scum.

In post 325, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Solid townreads: Drixx, Morning Tweet
Townreads: BM, Hectic, momo
People I don't want to lynch Day 1: Farside, A50
Scumreads: Guilty Lion, Vecna, Xtoxm, BBmolla

In post 843, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 842, Morning Tweet wrote:XTOM, DAVE, BB, HECTIC, or BLAKE
Anyone here except Hectic works for me, can you rank them for me please?

In post 912, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Here's the list of players I will NOT lynch today: Pisskop, momo, drixx, BM, Hectic, MT, farside, EJ. I think today is a crapshoot as far lynching correctly because town is dysfunctional, and am mainly angling for Day 2 analysis. I need to get the building blocks of early, serious bandwagons that have a chance to tip over to a real lynch. Make of that what you will.

You don't just go from townreading someone and advocating not lynching them today (all of the above), to being "99%" sure they're scum. This is exactly the sort of false bravado and confidence scum like to exhibit, and sometimes gets them townread:

In post 972, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

VOTE: Hectic

In post 973, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm not buying the a50 suspicion for one second LOL

In post 975, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The gig is up, Hectic, we know you're scum now!

In post 977, Albert B. Rampage wrote:*pulls the curtain to reveal the sign*

WELCOME, SCUM!

The jig is up you got caught.

In post 1000, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Anyway, in other news, Hectic is scum.

In post 1013, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1006, Hectic wrote:You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.
You disagreed with me in post 969 about something I said in post 329. I'm over it, Hectic... LOL

In post 1014, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm 99% certain that Hectic is scum. This is our lynch today. I can see you guys are having a hard time pushing a bandwagon beyond 3 votes, so I'll try to reduce my activity for the final 7 days until we can consolidate around Hectic.

The post in question (971) that got him to scumread me were some disconnected thoughts I typed up from 20 pages of skimming. If his case is that I'm scum for suspecting Almo and Elsa who both suspect each other, he's pushing me for NAI reason that I've explained - I don't preflip solve and my reads are almost always independent - he disregards that reason and continues to push me without giving any reasoning.

Snapshots of earlier overconfidence I was pinged by:

In post 129, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm not lynching farside or a50 today no matter what. I want to see what happens with them.

In post 338, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 337, Drixx wrote:I'm like 99.9% of the way to swapping my vote to Vecna at this point.
You should. BM is town.

In post 514, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Drixx, BM, momo, Morning Tweet and Pisskop are all town.

ISO · Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:04 am

Prodding momo.

Blake Belladonna · Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:12 am

This game is high up on my list.

UNVOTE: Drixx

I meant to do this the last time I was here, but I forgot to.

Blake Belladonna · Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:13 am

In post 919, Drixx wrote:@BB - no idea who you are. I generally don't go trying to work out who is an alt of whom unless someone is paying me the unpleasant kind of personal attention.

Blake Belladonna is an open Ankamius/Alyssa the Lamb alt.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:22 am

In post 1090, Blake Belladonna wrote:
In post 919, Drixx wrote:@BB - no idea who you are. I generally don't go trying to work out who is an alt of whom unless someone is paying me the unpleasant kind of personal attention.
Blake Belladonna is an open Ankamius/Alyssa the Lamb alt.

No way!

farside22 · Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:22 am

In post 1086, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We aren't announcing the reasons because we want to see who is town enough to see what we saw. The case is there. Watch the red flag. We talked about it indirectly. Hectic is waving the red flag more fanatically than communists at a workers day parade with their lives on the line if they don't show enough enthusiasm.

It is not a thing. If all your doing os throwing shit to get reaction, good. If you are serious, let me know and we'll talk.

In post 1090, Blake Belladonna wrote:
In post 919, Drixx wrote:@BB - no idea who you are. I generally don't go trying to work out who is an alt of whom unless someone is paying me the unpleasant kind of personal attention.
Blake Belladonna is an open Ankamius/Alyssa the Lamb alt.

ANKA!!!!

Vecna · Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:15 am

In post 1086, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We aren't announcing the reasons because we want to see who is town enough to see what we saw. The case is there. Watch the red flag. We talked about it indirectly. Hectic is waving the red flag more fanatically than communists at a workers day parade with their lives on the line if they don't show enough enthusiasm.

And im guessing your next step is quizzing the people that voted on these "obvious signals" right?

Im just like, asking on behalf of us clueless townies that missed the obvious signals

Vecna · Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:16 am

Hmmm, the announcement of the hydra heads has made my townread dissolve

poof

Blake Belladonna · Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:19 am

In post 1094, Vecna wrote:Hmmm, the announcement of the hydra heads has made my townread dissolve

poof

Why?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:22 am

In post 1080, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1079, Gamma Emerald wrote:What has A50 been doing that’s odd? I consider myself a bit of an authority on his meta.
Perfect, you're just in time.

What is his meta?

In post 1081, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1079, Gamma Emerald wrote:What has A50 been doing that’s odd? I consider myself a bit of an authority on his meta.
also did you intend this to sound as defensive as it came across? or were you aiming for neutral?

His meta is doing weird things

And idk what about that seemed defensive? Are you saying I was being defensive of A50?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:23 am

In post 1094, Vecna wrote:Hmmm, the announcement of the hydra heads has made my townread dissolve

poof

It’s an alt not a hydra -_-

davesaz · Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:05 am

In post 1085, GeorgeBailey wrote:
Hectic is a bad wagon because of votes like these. No reasoning behind them, other than it's a good wagon.

Keep reading, it comes out as you go.

momo · Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:03 am

In post 1087, Hectic wrote:You don't just go from townreading someone and advocating not lynching them today (all of the above), to being "99%" sure they're scum. This is exactly the sort of false bravado and confidence scum like to exhibit, and sometimes gets them townread:

I disagree with this. Scum will try and keep their reads as consistent as possible to avoid suspicion, especially a player as active as ABR. It's hard to read ABR this game, but the fact that he was willing to make a noted change to his reads as the game progressed has to be counted as townpoints, def not scummy.