Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait did people change their minds and decide to out hoods fully now?

[pisskop]

But I guess I'd suggest he simply panicked and didn't want to draw attention to himself as being the odd one out, so lied to fit in.

jesus this is bad. Not, like, scummy bad; just regular terrible

[Morning Tweet]

ABR or hectic might be scum-- not sure there yet

i was promised something exciting, BM! unless i missed it

Do you see people's reasons for calling me an Acolyte? It sounds like cutting corners and poor storytelling to me!

Morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

no i didnt see you do something specifically scummy, but i havent gotten my TR on you yet either :c The interaction between u and ABR i just think could be telling

@ABR wasn't there like, two people voting dave at that point? It wasn't going places like you make it out to have been. and you do like your reaction tests, cant i naked vote xtom if id like to?

I promise if we lynch Momo today, we can lynch xtoxm tomorrow - deal?

im not attached to the thought of lynching xtom. that being said, ill review hectics post on momo and prolly what others have said later when im off mobile.

i had momo as light town from the whole early game interaction with me, but he's not outside the realm of lynchability

[Morning Tweet]

Wait did people change their minds and decide to out hoods fully now?

Wait we did this? i dont think so..?

[pisskop]

Wait did people change their minds and decide to out hoods fully now?

idk, but I was just about to come in and say I was sorry for not reading the last . . . 12 or so pages when an egosearch turns this up.

[Battle Mage]

It explicitly implies he is in a hood.

youre right. I did intentionally imply I might be in a hood. And as albert says, I did consistently say so to maintain that ambiguity. And futhermore, I did so when I knew people would state their hoodmates.

As I explained in post 1148, there was nothing ambiguous about it. Surely you're not actually trying to deny that you deliberately misled the town?

[pisskop]

Blake Belladonna is PROBABLY TOWN - meta

I have a question about some of your reads, but this one stands out most. Can do an explain for me?

[Battle Mage]

But I guess I'd suggest he simply panicked and didn't want to draw attention to himself as being the odd one out, so lied to fit in.

jesus this is bad. Not, like, scummy bad; just regular terrible

Of course you would try to undermine anything which makes you look bad. But in reality, it's just common sense. You haven't given an alternative explanation for why you lied.

[pisskop]

lied


I mean, technically, it was...

[Battle Mage]

ABR or hectic might be scum-- not sure there yet

i was promised something exciting, BM! unless i missed it

Do you see people's reasons for calling me an Acolyte? It sounds like cutting corners and poor storytelling to me!

Morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

no i didnt see you do something specifically scummy, but i havent gotten my TR on you yet either :c The interaction between u and ABR i just think could be telling

@ABR wasn't there like, two people voting dave at that point? It wasn't going places like you make it out to have been. and you do like your reaction tests, cant i naked vote xtom if id like to?

I promise if we lynch Momo today, we can lynch xtoxm tomorrow - deal?

im not attached to the thought of lynching xtom. that being said, ill review hectics post on momo and prolly what others have said later when im off mobile.

i had momo as light town from the whole early game interaction with me, but he's not outside the realm of lynchability

Excellent, running up momo would be a great idea.

Pisskop, how about instead of spinning your wheels, you join us!

[Battle Mage]

lied


I mean, technically, it was...

Come on dude, if you're town you'd have to admit it was unhelpful and served no benefit? Or did I miss something clever in there? Aside from that, I think you were pretty well in the town category, so a good explanation would be helpful, and we can focus on lynching momo.

[farside22]

*eats popcorn*
If given a choice between Mono or Hectic I'd lynch Mono. Can't we deal with Xtoxm today?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pisskop forget about BM. You want to be where the action's at, on the Hectic winlynch. BM is asking for your support today and he'll ask for your head tomorrow. Trust me instead.

[pisskop]

Let me ask you, BM. Lets step outside the game for a second.

Lets say we're all playing prisoners dilemma, with a kitty instead of prison time. Except instead of set increments of money, we all put in a non-zero amount. You following me?

So, what benefit do I have to be directly blunt and honest when I could also fish for reactions and at the same time potentially protect another player by eating a bullet for them? Why should I not try to draw an NK, or fake crumb, or do anything like this?
You said yourself that it wasnt like I could go far with my 'lie'. Youre trying too hard m8t

[pisskop]

Pisskop forget about BM. You want to be where the action's at, on the Hectic winlynch. BM is asking for your support today and he'll ask for your head tomorrow. Trust me instead.

I always would trust you. Until I dont. Let me read up

[Battle Mage]

Let me ask you, BM. Lets step outside the game for a second.

Lets say we're all playing prisoners dilemma, with a kitty instead of prison time. Except instead of set increments of money, we all put in a non-zero amount. You following me?

So, what benefit do I have to be directly blunt and honest when I could also fish for reactions and at the same time potentially protect another player by eating a bullet for them? Why should I not try to draw an NK, or fake crumb, or do anything like this?
You said yourself that it wasnt like I could go far with my 'lie'. Youre trying too hard m8t

I'm not sure if you hoped this would be rhetorical, but it isn't. The reason you wouldn't do those things as town, is because you will be mislynched for it. Obviously. One of town's greatest weapons is honesty, I'll always be sympathetic to lynching players who lie, particularly in this case for no obvious town benefit.

But ABR is only telling you his political truth. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and allow you to live for many more days if you commit yourself to the righteous Momo wagon.

You know it makes sense, m8.

[Battle Mage]

*eats popcorn*
If given a choice between Mono or Hectic I'd lynch Mono. Can't we deal with Xtoxm today?

Sadly not - Unless we are united, Minister ABR will, in his divine wisdom, kill Hectic. This might not be such a bad thing, but it's clearly inferior to the Momo-lynch of my dreams.

[pisskop]

You TR abr, bm?

[Battle Mage]

You TR abr, bm?

Absolutely!

[Albert B. Rampage]

*eats popcorn*
If given a choice between Mono or Hectic I'd lynch Mono. Can't we deal with Xtoxm today?

Sadly not - Unless we are united, Minister ABR will, in his divine wisdom, kill Hectic. This might not be such a bad thing, but it's clearly inferior to the Momo-lynch of my dreams.

Yeah, fuck off with your barely 2 vote lurker hunt farside. Pick a side.

[iDanyboy]

these were some of the (admittedly few) reads given by iDanyboy prior to his vote on Hectic. At the time of voting Hectic, it was being championed by ABR, who danyBoy previously called his strongest scumread, and momo, who Danyboy called 'just above null towards scum', and davesaz who iDanyboy hasn't commented on at all. Why is this 'not a bad wagon' in that case? What caused him to re-evaluate so massively on ABR, and why was this not indicated to the thread?.

I don't think about who I am voting with unless I have a a strong reason to believe they are guilty, plus with a game of this size I don't have a strong scum read and is hard to keep track of all the players. I found ABR's avoidance of the Vecna post weird but I also found Hectic's posting to be scummy and I wanted to get a wagon going that I agree with, and no one was voting ABR.

[Battle Mage]

these were some of the (admittedly few) reads given by iDanyboy prior to his vote on Hectic. At the time of voting Hectic, it was being championed by ABR, who danyBoy previously called his strongest scumread, and momo, who Danyboy called 'just above null towards scum', and davesaz who iDanyboy hasn't commented on at all. Why is this 'not a bad wagon' in that case? What caused him to re-evaluate so massively on ABR, and why was this not indicated to the thread?.

I don't think about who I am voting with unless I have a a strong reason to believe they are guilty, plus with a game of this size I don't have a strong scum read and is hard to keep track of all the players. I found ABR's avoidance of the Vecna post weird but I also found Hectic's posting to be scummy and I wanted to get a wagon going that I agree with, and no one was voting ABR.

keep up danyboy - Momo is the play right now!

[iDanyboy]

I don't have much of an opinion of him, He only has one post I didn't like but I prefer the Hectic wagon.

[Battle Mage]

the wagon being driven by your top suspect ABR? A likely story!

[Morning Tweet]

What did Hectic do that makes you feel he's scummier than other candidates