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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:54 am

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In post 1316, Lady Chloe wrote:Not particularly, but decisions could have changed upon further dialogue. Furthermore, I have 0 context for half the positions people are stating in this thread currently, and I distrust that you opened the thread discrediting my transition EoD1 instead of being transparent. 1295
What wasn't transparent about it?
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 1324, Ginngie wrote:for real tho is training passive
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:04 am

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Lady, you never answered me here:
In post 1122, Ame wrote:Lady, I've liked almost every post by NK so far. In particular 272 and 296 which was his reaction to and explanation regarding Spring. It comes off as genuine town frustration and his explanation comes off a stream of conscious-y, as if he's working out the read in the post. And he engaged with me regarding mastina in an objective/solve-oriented manner: 357, 359, and 362.

My perspective on Hectic is in the ninjad post above.
In post 1226, Ame wrote:
In post 1224, Lady Chloe wrote:My readslist is at 4 lines.

My conviction rises.
What did you think of my NK reasoning? Also who would you lynch if we could?
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:08 am

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In post 909, Lady Chloe wrote:There is one fear I have with you, Farkran, and it is that I am reading you too literally.
What were you referring to here, Chloe?
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 1323, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: Springlullaby
Time to get rid of the next scum. If correct, lynch the mastina - slot.
If you think Knight is scum, then I beg you go that direction instead. I've laid out why we don't lynch the capture today.
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:49 pm

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In post 1322, Lady Chloe wrote:Pink Ball,
In post 1306, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1284, springlullaby wrote: > Doesn't disclose result of quest item and who they give it to.
Can we lynch this?
I find some of your posting insightful.

Scum and town were nightkilled, and the heat within the thread has doubled, does the pressure originate more from town or scum?
I need you to explain this question for me; what do you mean by "heat within the thread"? What pressure?
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:49 pm

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HURT: Knight

I think this is scum number two (not from anything you've done Knight). Knight, have you fully caught up?
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:54 pm

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Oops

Uncapture: Knight

VOTE: Knight
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:01 pm

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This would be an Ame and Knight hydra:

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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:22 pm

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In post 1331, Ame wrote:HURT: Knight

I think this is scum number two (not from anything you've done Knight). Knight, have you fully caught up?
I got to about page 25 then my head started hurting with all the mech talk and the spring spam. I was hoping I'd form reads based on interactions today. But because we have a scum flip I'm gonna go back and see what I can find.

Would still like to know why you found mastina scummy(I think that's what you mean to say), for my sanity.
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:25 pm

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In post 1329, Ame wrote:
In post 1323, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: Springlullaby
Time to get rid of the next scum. If correct, lynch the mastina - slot.
If you think Knight is scum, then I beg you go that direction instead. I've laid out why we don't lynch the capture today.
Did you read the FOTC flip? Everyone got one xp today.
His read on the mastina slot aka me is an associative read, he is saying that if spring=scum, then knight=scum.
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:35 pm

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In post 1296, Pine wrote:
In post 1281, Ame wrote:Unfortunate Pine. What is gold exactly?
A macguffin which would have made us all bulletproof. Now it’s not a thing because I’m a dumb.

VOTE: Spring
In post 1323, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: Springlullaby
Time to get rid of the next scum. If correct, lynch the mastina - slot.
Do both of you really believe that day 1 was a full on scum theatre between SL and farkset?
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:25 pm

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In post 1336, Knightmare491 wrote:
In post 1296, Pine wrote:
In post 1281, Ame wrote:Unfortunate Pine. What is gold exactly?
A macguffin which would have made us all bulletproof. Now it’s not a thing because I’m a dumb.

VOTE: Spring
In post 1323, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: Springlullaby
Time to get rid of the next scum. If correct, lynch the mastina - slot.
Do both of you really believe that day 1 was a full on scum theatre between SL and farkset?
Read this:



The associative is the following: Who coached/made them to do exactly that(push each other like that)?
Mastina is the most likely answer(they did it last game, and they had to read it... maybe they thought "lets do that again but not involve me"?).
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:35 am

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In post 1335, Knightmare491 wrote:Did you read the FOTC flip? Everyone got one xp today.
I didn't consider that. That makes this statement quite odd then:
In post 1275, springlullaby wrote:I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:38 am

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Knight, did you target me last night?
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:36 am

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In post 1338, Ame wrote:
In post 1335, Knightmare491 wrote:Did you read the FOTC flip? Everyone got one xp today.
I didn't consider that. That makes this statement quite odd then:
In post 1275, springlullaby wrote:I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.
It makes perfect sense if they
lost 1xp due to capture
, though.
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:42 am

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In post 1340, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1338, Ame wrote:
In post 1335, Knightmare491 wrote:Did you read the FOTC flip? Everyone got one xp today.
I didn't consider that. That makes this statement quite odd then:
In post 1275, springlullaby wrote:I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.
It makes perfect sense if they
lost 1xp due to capture
, though.
Although nothing they said about their role and xp makes sense when combined, except them lying to us. Can we lynch this? It has at least 1xp so it can kill tonight.
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:57 am

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In post 1294, Ame wrote:Yes, based on NK's case and the way she has been playing. For example, currently fishing for who has the item and what it is. That being said, she is not someone I'm considering currently.
That's a good point. I kind of had her as more or less conftown in my head because of her constant push on farkset. But NK's case is good. I'd be happy to consider this but not for today's lynch since we captured her yesterday.

In post 1295, Ame wrote:
Ginnie
looks really bad for these:
In post 926, Ginngie wrote:Im gonna make the bold claim that everyone over 100 posts as of this moment is town.
In post 951, Ginngie wrote:I'm sorry but this is never going to flip fucking scum.
The first looks like derailing. She made the post a bit after I made my case on Farkset. @all could you read it in context and let me know what you think?
I agree with this. I thought that first quote was odd enough on it's own in the first place, but now that we know farkset is scum it looks extra bad now.


@ame; I'm not sure I'm following how that transition is bad for Chloe.

In post 1297, Ginngie wrote:lol *reveals largest scum tell about never interacting with my teammates*

Declares Ginngie scum with someone he shouted into the high heavens as 100% town.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME
I don't trust self-meta. I don't even know if it's true. And you're aware of it so you could be actively playing against your meta. Self-meta is meaningless, especially when never asked.

In post 1321, Lady Chloe wrote:Raya,

Where do you find Pine-Ginngie being scum as most probable here?
I don't. The list was based purely on associations with Farkset. My scumreads are not necessarily aligned. I am starting to see Pine more town now though.

In post 1341, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1340, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 1338, Ame wrote:
In post 1335, Knightmare491 wrote:Did you read the FOTC flip? Everyone got one xp today.
I didn't consider that. That makes this statement quite odd then:
In post 1275, springlullaby wrote:I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.
It makes perfect sense if they
lost 1xp due to capture
, though.
Although nothing they said about their role and xp makes sense when combined, except them lying to us. Can we lynch this? It has at least 1xp so it can kill tonight.
This makes a lot of sense. I think there are enough cases against spring right now to make her a good slot to lynch. I wanted to wait until at least the next day since she was captured but I forgot if she's scum she can kill now because everyone got 1 xp.

VOTE: Spring
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:10 am

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Requesting prods isn't against site rules correct? If so
requesting momo prod.
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:13 am

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In post 1340, Not Known 15 wrote:It makes perfect sense if they lost 1xp due to capture, though.
Yesterday she was seeing she needed to be @2XP to upgrade. She should be at 1XP now so she should only need 1 more to upgrade. It's weird that she asked for 2.
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:14 am

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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:39 am

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I generally reset prod timers at the start of each day, so momo would have ~8 hours before being eligible, but I can poke him now.
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:54 pm

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NK can you do a reread of Spring and Fark in ISO together? I don't think Spring is scum. Her reasoning comes from a place that I don't think scum would be able to simulate. A recent example in particular is . This is the type of theory that I only think comes from genuine confirmation bias.

Spring, I went into your meta some and found that this persona isn't your standard and that you are actually capable of posting normally and politely. Why did you choose this persona this game? I find your abrasiveness and rudeness very unenjoyable and ask that you stop.

My town core right now is NK, Ginnie, and Pine. I'll dive into Hectic tomorrow, but I think he's probably a part of that as well. However, Hectic it would be helpful if you started to provide some thoughts!
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:57 pm

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In post 1050, Not Known 15 wrote:And then it begins. I will not quote the rest but there is much bullshit spam from this point naming farkran "farkscum" without really going much into specifics. But there is absolutely no scumhunt attempt behind it.
hmm out of everything this is a good point.
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:58 pm

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In post 1339, Ame wrote:Knight, did you target me last night?
nah
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