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@Dany - I have no idea what the team is. The fact you keep lumping teams together as if one combination only makes sense so you must disregard all others if you're going to push a scumread is, IMHO, an easy way to dismiss concern regarding you. My reads are you, trollie, bambi, bob right now. How that works, I don't know and I don't care. You can twist and distort any theory put together as scum to play down the reality of who you are. My theory on why I think you are scum is based entirely on your posts - not some possible scum team I have to fit you all into for it to be a paradigm can be challenged and allow obfuscation.
Your posts make you scum based off going through the entire thread post by post and working out what you've done. The fact you hammered Titus emphasises that. The fact you sat on EJ who flipped town, and you rammed into him mindlessly emphasises that. You at no point have voted for Mavs, and only jumped on him in D3 I believe because you and mavs knew mavs was likely to get lynched, and starting it off gave you a chance to play the 'I lead the lynch on mavs'. You've formed no read on him really before 767 and there was no reasoning why that was the case, and instead of voting and pushing for him in D2 you instead hammer Titus. It reeks. The fact you've had a scum read on Allo, BBMolla, Titus and EJ who have all turned town is both good enough for me to believe you're either incapable of forming an accurate scumread on the game and leads me to believe you deliberately bussed mav's, since your previous read have been rubbish.
And yes you are changing focus on yourself by identifying other targets you believe I should be pursuing. Do you think mala is scum? Yes. And you have to, in order for me and other townies to push on another mis-lynch that will benefit you. So, you'll draw on her not saying anything to get me to focus on someone else that isn't you. Mala has contributed enough for me that I believe I know where she stands. I may be wrong but that's the chance we take.
Fuck it. I'm going to back my gut. VOTE: iDanyboy- Drew-Sta
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Actually do something other than float in and float out. If you can't spend the time, sub out and let someone else finish the game.In post 1124, Bambi Jay wrote:Fuck, Mavs really was scum. Hmm. Okay, back in this game finally after just dodging it for awhile for... Honestly laziness and shit because no scum flip gave me anything to work with.
Don't out Trollie to L-1 please. A quickhammer today would be shite.- bob3141
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Drew-sta serously. Arer you taking credit for the mav lynch. All day oen your slot was pushign it as town. And then when you rep in you hold off on hammering him.
At most you could ever say is that you came round to vote for mavs. Certainly not that you were architect of teh mav lynch. Which just absurd.
Mav even got up to l-1 at times before you repped in when you slot wasnt in the game- bob3141
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In post 1125, Drew-Sta wrote:@Dany - I have no idea what the team is. The fact you keep lumping teams together as if one combination only makes sense so you must disregard all others if you're going to push a scumread is, IMHO, an easy way to dismiss concern regarding you. My reads are you, trollie, bambi, bob right now. How that works, I don't know and I don't care. You can twist and distort any theory put together as scum to play down the reality of who you are. My theory on why I think you are scum is based entirely on your posts - not some possible scum team I have to fit you all into for it to be a paradigm can be challenged and allow obfuscation.
Your posts make you scum based off going through the entire thread post by post and working out what you've done. The fact you hammered Titus emphasises that. The fact you sat on EJ who flipped town, and you rammed into him mindlessly emphasises that. You at no point have voted for Mavs, and only jumped on him in D3 I believe because you and mavs knew mavs was likely to get lynched, and starting it off gave you a chance to play the 'I lead the lynch on mavs'. You've formed no read on him really before 767 and there was no reasoning why that was the case, and instead of voting and pushing for him in D2 you instead hammer Titus. It reeks. The fact you've had a scum read on Allo, BBMolla, Titus and EJ who have all turned town is both good enough for me to believe you're either incapable of forming an accurate scumread on the game and leads me to believe you deliberately bussed mav's, since your previous read have been rubbish.
And yes you are changing focus on yourself by identifying other targets you believe I should be pursuing. Do you think mala is scum? Yes. And you have to, in order for me and other townies to push on another mis-lynch that will benefit you. So, you'll draw on her not saying anything to get me to focus on someone else that isn't you. Mala has contributed enough for me that I believe I know where she stands. I may be wrong but that's the chance we take.
Fuck it. I'm going to back my gut. VOTE: iDanyboy
Dany why do you think dany is scum based on his hammer of titus. Why do you think scum hammers in that situation
When two other slots have said that they would vote for titus and a 3rd was saying titus was likely scum.
So if dany is scum then at most of those two could be scum. Your slot and trollie.
So why do you think a scum danny hammers titus rather than waiting for a townie to hammer. As if he was scum he woudl know if either both or which one was town.
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Also point us at these posts you mention in the first bit. All you have said what you claim his posts have done but not provided any examples to prove you point. Just looks like shade- bob3141
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Drew-sta if you think dannyi is scum then why do you think he kills allomancer to night rather than next night.
As would nt a player who thinks he couldnt be scum with mav be a boon to a scum dannyi.
Would scum dannyi get rid of a threat to him. Rather than a player he could assuem would town read him after mavs flip- iDanyboy
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I have not told you who to pursue, all my post's this day have been defending myself apart from one which was me stating my POE. I have only mentioned Mala in response to you because it seemed you were because you wanted a response from him. This seemed odd to me then because you were blaming Gera then Trollie for hammering when Mala the one who you kept saying you wanted a response from posted but ignored me didn't make sense. This is the only time I have brought up Mala in response to you.In post 1125, Drew-Sta wrote:@Dany - I have no idea what the team is. The fact you keep lumping teams together as if one combination only makes sense so you must disregard all others if you're going to push a scumread is, IMHO, an easy way to dismiss concern regarding you. My reads are you, trollie, bambi, bob right now. How that works, I don't know and I don't care. You can twist and distort any theory put together as scum to play down the reality of who you are. My theory on why I think you are scum is based entirely on your posts - not some possible scum team I have to fit you all into for it to be a paradigm can be challenged and allow obfuscation.
Your posts make you scum based off going through the entire thread post by post and working out what you've done. The fact you hammered Titus emphasises that. The fact you sat on EJ who flipped town, and you rammed into him mindlessly emphasises that. You at no point have voted for Mavs, and only jumped on him in D3 I believe because you and mavs knew mavs was likely to get lynched, and starting it off gave you a chance to play the 'I lead the lynch on mavs'. You've formed no read on him really before 767 and there was no reasoning why that was the case, and instead of voting and pushing for him in D2 you instead hammer Titus. It reeks. The fact you've had a scum read on Allo, BBMolla, Titus and EJ who have all turned town is both good enough for me to believe you're either incapable of forming an accurate scumread on the game and leads me to believe you deliberately bussed mav's, since your previous read have been rubbish.
And yes you are changing focus on yourself by identifying other targets you believe I should be pursuing. Do you think mala is scum? Yes. And you have to, in order for me and other townies to push on another mis-lynch that will benefit you. So, you'll draw on her not saying anything to get me to focus on someone else that isn't you. Mala has contributed enough for me that I believe I know where she stands. I may be wrong but that's the chance we take.
Fuck it. I'm going to back my gut. VOTE: iDanyboy
Titus was going to be the lynch I don't get how me hammering makes me ssum. I also don't get why me pushing EJ is scummy. I thought he was scum and I explained why, I was wrong but that doesn't make me scummy. I don't know why you bringing up how wrong I am as a reason to lynch me? I may have bad scum reads but I can still be right some of the time.
I also want to reiterate about mavs that no one was pushing him at all. You're saying I knew mavs was going to be lynched but how? No one was pushing him, no one was mentioning him, he was under no pressure whats so ever. So if your are town you need to read day 2/3 properly. i lynched Titus because it was the lynch there was no changing that. I found mavs scummy on day two and I tried to get a conversation going about him but I wasn't getting anywhere, Titus was going to be the lynch so I hammered. Then I pushed mavs when there was no pressure on him and if you want to dispute this show me some posts of him getting pressure. For me to pressure mav's in that situation if I was scum would make no sense as I had at least one miss lynch opportunity.- TheTrollie
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I only skimmed - there's a lot of shit pointed at me - i might go through and give more complete answers when i have time later but for now - Drew, i didn't see ur post until after I hammered, which is why i already apologized for not letting you hammer. I was trigger happy bc mavs was so obvs scum at that point.
Bob - I see ur stuff about mavs views in the mala slot v. me argument of D1 - it is a good point. Mala may still be scum but I do need to re-read that. Curious what other wagons there were at that point. Also did mavs ever place a vote with me D1 or was he just fueling the fire? I'll look into all of that but it is a great call.
the wagon on me is bull - gerain and mala i think it is...interesting. I have to re-read drew's argument for why I am scum but I am like 90% sure that there is at least 1 scum in Mala/Gerain. Prob Mala (though i do need to do the reading above) bc i think she voted second and it is idiotic for town to put anyone on L-2 with 2 scum left within the first 5 posts of D4.
Also mala, I thought I was scum if one of mavs/gerain/bambi was town. mavs was scum - so we should be closer to a townread on me by your initial logic no?- SirCakez
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In post 1120, Drew-Sta wrote:@mod - does this game set up include the possibility of a silence ability or a force vote ability?
Sorry for my n00biness.Neither of those are normal, so no.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I missed this until ISOing bambi just nowIn post 937, Bambi Jay wrote:
I'm not refusing to answer, I'm just not putting your name and bolding it.In post 934, bob3141 wrote:In post 932, Bambi Jay wrote:.
WHO DO YOU THINK IS SCUM?
Fourth time you have refused to answer
I took this as my casual game RN, but I do legit think it's going well.
Here's my contribution today, believe it or not: I got neighbor'd by Molla last night as promised. He left a post detailing his final readslist as well. I know the other Mason and am not giving up any hints on who it is unless they directly ask me to confirm them today. I also basically know for sure the other Mason has the same readslist.
There you go Bob. Happy?
(1) can u share BBs reads on the group? I'm curious
(2) how did you know Allo had the same readlist?- Drew-Sta
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After 48 hours without a postBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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1) Are you telling me you have never lynched someone who you though could be town?In post 1137, Drew-Sta wrote:Spoiler:
TLDR - iDany first scum choice. bob second scum choice. Trollie third scum choice. Bambi fourth scum choice but I find less likely.
2) Bullshit, by this metric everyone in this game is scum. You have to give a reason my push on EJ was scummy.
I think you’re scum who chose me as a miss lynch target and that’s why none of what you say makes any sense.- iDanyboy
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In post 1142, iDanyboy wrote:
1) Are you telling me you have never lynched someone who you though could be town?In post 1137, Drew-Sta wrote:Spoiler:
TLDR - iDany first scum choice. bob second scum choice. Trollie third scum choice. Bambi fourth scum choice but I find less likely.
2) Bullshit, by this metric everyone in this game is scum. You have to give a reason my push on EJ was scummy.
I think you’re scum who chose me as a miss lynch target and that’s why none of what you say makes any sense.Spoiler: Answers to Dany's questions
So there's your fucking reason why I think your push on EJ as well as Titus makes you scum.
You have not formed a single argument against what I've said. You've just gone 'No, you're wrong.' Go through and line by line show me where I'm wrong. Not Cats. Don't worry about them. Show me why my read is wrong, then actually put in the effort to show me why ANYONE else is scum.
pedit - OH MY FUCKING GOSH THAT IS THE BIGGEST OMGUS VOTE I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY FUCKING LIFE!- iDanyboy
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Firstly, it's 'you're'.In post 1145, iDanyboy wrote:Your wrong is an argument, almost everything you said is a fabrication.
Secondly, 'You're wrong.' isn't an argument. It's a statement. For it to be an argument, it would have to contain a formulated case. 'Argument - a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory.' So... what are your reasons?
How is it wrong? I have literally quoted your posts. It is actually what you've done in this game.
Which is it - I would ignore you or I am scum? And if I'm scum, why? Show me why!! Actually formulate a reason. Don't just throw shit at the wall.In post 1146, iDanyboy wrote:There’s no point going line by line through you’re argument because you just going to ignore what I say and push me because your scum.- bob3141
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VOTE: Drew-sta
863 was very important. Its one of many examples of cat pushign back against mav being scum read. If you were town you wouldnt try and dismiss it but try and talk about why cat migth of town read mav. But you choose to ignor it.
So you slot only found mav to be scum after mav had given up. And was just failing to try and make it hard for us to find his partner. And you claim credit for the lynch.
You even push danny using the espresso and titus lynch are bad. You fail to explain what you think dannyi motive was. Why he wouldnt simply let a townie hammer if he was scum. Two other not voting had declared intent. For danny to be scum they both cant be town.
Not forgetting day one your slot pushed day one and come day two avoided voting for him. When it was clear he was dead.
Then you mention the flash lynch. You talk about dannyi but ingor all the other slots. What about danny push on espresso did you think was scum motivated. As all i can see in your arguement is that dannyi pushed town. Forgeting that what town often does. Only scum know for sure who town isCopyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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