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[bob3141]

And drew you are pushing a scum read on me. your second strongest infact yet.

You push you scum read on dannyI as if you talking about me being town. You keep say oh danyi your are trying to buddy bob. Yet dont explain why scum even needs to buddy their partner. Scum really only try and buddy town.

So you saying an action scum predominantly do to town is evidence for that player being scum. When if scum did try and buddy someone it would mean they are town.

[geraintm]

In post 1102, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: trollieYou got a reason for voting trollie. Day 3 i didnt see you mention him much

going to try and catch up now, going to bea bunch of posts.

bob - why didn't you ask me this question, as I also voted trollies.
I find it suspicious that someone would try and pick apart a wagon by only going at one half of it

[geraintm]

now if germa and bambi are town then why wouldnt scum add a second vote.with 2 scum and 2 town. The last scum would of been need to complete any scum lynch.

? It is me and Malakittens voting for trollie at this point, not bambi.

and why would scum not add more votes - well could be both votes are town and the person they are voting for is scum. find it odd you don't consider that?

more bad points for bob

[geraintm]

It's facepalm worthy because I basically led the lynch on mavs and called you as scum and now you're calling me part of the scum team?

Seriously... You're as obvious as it gets.

I am going to vote for you now. I feel passionately about it.

VOTE: iDanyboy

I want to hear why people are on Trollie. I'm not 100% convinced on him.

The Mavs lynch went through without you, and would of went through had you posted nothing. I am the one that scumread mavs on day 2 and voted him as soon as day 3 started and did not move it when the bob/ bambi wagons both had 3 votes on them. I think this makes it hard to pin me as scum with mavs. I also don't like how you are trying to take credit for a mavs lynch when you had nothing to do with it.

I am giving idany total town cred here. they were onto Mavs from the start of Day 3.

The final votes were, with town in bold

iDanyboy

, bob3141,

geraintm

,

Allomancer[/], TheTrollie

trollie joined the wagon mid way through, then left and then hammered.

[geraintm]

1. I keep highlighting Mal's lack of content because you keep saying you wanted a response from Mala and she has ignored you and yet you're puting your anger elsewhere.
2. I also think you need to re read day 3 because I was the only one that voted Mav's when he had no stink on him and had ample oppurtunity to switch votes because there where two wagons in Bambi and Bob. So in your universe I as scum came out hard pushing my partners after miss lynching two townies? with a misslynch opportunity in Bambi or Bob (as they can't both be my partners). I don't think my day 1 play was dodgy, day 2 you could argue but I think my day 1 was pretty clear.

3. My scum read's come from POE, mav's is dead so we can't lynch him again. I think Bob, Trollie and Ger are town leaving you, Bambi and Mala.

You said ' I basically led the lynch on mavs' and I think anyone that reads it will get the same meaning I did from that and not what you have said now. If anyone pushed him when he had a stink on him it was you not me.

Writing this post has made me realise how disjointed and bad my writing skills are

1. Re trollie: he was on mavs at 3.5. Then got off at 1059, strangely. Then I come along, post my wall, and, acknowledging he did in read my wall and Ger's posts after (1078) which must have included my request to wait for mala in 1068, ends up slamming the hammer after Allo voted in 1079 (with Trollie going on 1093 when it seemed abundantly clear mavs was scum).

That's why I'm angry. Mala not posting is not something I'm angry at. I want their feedback. I'm also wondering if they've been force voted and silenced but I doubt it.

... also, when reading that, it seems fucking clear Trollie is acting suspiciously.

Fuck. That revelation hit me like a truck...

I actually think Trollie is scum guys.

2. Not important after my revelation in 1.

3. Why is Trollie town? Exactly why? I think it's now you, Trollie and mavs.

Why do you keep drawing attention to mala?You are shifting focus here from you and Trollie.

I like that your read on Trolliw got to mine once you looked at their posts. why not vote though?

[geraintm]

oh man, drew's post 1125 ending with avote for idany is bad.

[geraintm]

the wagon on me is bull - gerain and mala i think it is...interesting. I have to re-read drew's argument for why I am scum but I am like 90% sure that there is at least 1 scum in Mala/Gerain. Prob Mala (though i do need to do the reading above) bc i think she voted second and it is idiotic for town to put anyone on L-2 with 2 scum left within the first 5 posts of D4

lets just say, so many people not considering the person being voted for as likely scum, but lumping the scumon the wagon just rings so off with me.
would trollie have pinged me as most lieky scum if I had voted second, even though I had promised to vote trollie today?

[geraintm]

TLDR - iDany first scum choice. bob second scum choice. Trollie third scum choice. Bambi fourth scum choice but I find less likely.

this read list is terrible, excepting that I am not on it, that part I like.

[Drew-Sta]

1. I keep highlighting Mal's lack of content because you keep saying you wanted a response from Mala and she has ignored you and yet you're puting your anger elsewhere.
2. I also think you need to re read day 3 because I was the only one that voted Mav's when he had no stink on him and had ample oppurtunity to switch votes because there where two wagons in Bambi and Bob. So in your universe I as scum came out hard pushing my partners after miss lynching two townies? with a misslynch opportunity in Bambi or Bob (as they can't both be my partners). I don't think my day 1 play was dodgy, day 2 you could argue but I think my day 1 was pretty clear.

3. My scum read's come from POE, mav's is dead so we can't lynch him again. I think Bob, Trollie and Ger are town leaving you, Bambi and Mala.

You said ' I basically led the lynch on mavs' and I think anyone that reads it will get the same meaning I did from that and not what you have said now. If anyone pushed him when he had a stink on him it was you not me.

Writing this post has made me realise how disjointed and bad my writing skills are

1. Re trollie: he was on mavs at 3.5. Then got off at 1059, strangely. Then I come along, post my wall, and, acknowledging he did in read my wall and Ger's posts after (1078) which must have included my request to wait for mala in 1068, ends up slamming the hammer after Allo voted in 1079 (with Trollie going on 1093 when it seemed abundantly clear mavs was scum).

That's why I'm angry. Mala not posting is not something I'm angry at. I want their feedback. I'm also wondering if they've been force voted and silenced but I doubt it.

... also, when reading that, it seems fucking clear Trollie is acting suspiciously.

Fuck. That revelation hit me like a truck...

I actually think Trollie is scum guys.

2. Not important after my revelation in 1.

3. Why is Trollie town? Exactly why? I think it's now you, Trollie and mavs.

Why do you keep drawing attention to mala?You are shifting focus here from you and Trollie.

I like that your read on Trolliw got to mine once you looked at their posts. why not vote though?

Because I think iDany is scum.

I have iDany, bob and Trollie in my scum reads. Bambi is a possibility but I don’t think so.

I’ve missed something in the first three in that clearly one of them must be town. The fact I can’t work out which of the three is what has me annoyed (personally).

Bob’s outright attack on me defending iDany is too bold for it to be scum buddying scum. So I’m beginning to think one of those two can’t be scum and trollie might be?

This is the difficult end of things.

[Drew-Sta]

TLDR - iDany first scum choice. bob second scum choice. Trollie third scum choice. Bambi fourth scum choice but I find less likely.

this read list is terrible, excepting that I am not on it, that part I like.

Why.

[Drew-Sta]

oh man, drew's post 1125 ending with avote for idany is bad.

Why.

[geraintm]

today feels like trollie and drew are the most likely lynches already.

I have iday as strong town at this stage.

I don't think anyone is reading me as scum at this point, so pleased with that.

[Drew-Sta]

And drew you are pushing a scum read on me. your second strongest infact yet.

You push you scum read on dannyI as if you talking about me being town. You keep say oh danyi your are trying to buddy bob. Yet dont explain why scum even needs to buddy their partner. Scum really only try and buddy town.

So you saying an action scum predominantly do to town is evidence for that player being scum. When if scum did try and buddy someone it would mean they are town.

If you and Dany are scum together, Dany would not want you lynched. Der.

[geraintm]

oh man, drew's post 1125 ending with avote for idany is bad.

Why.

becase you go from a post that has you almost voting for trollie, to the next going back andvoting for idany. just...if you almost agree with my scum read and then switch to voting for the person I think is most town, that just looks bad.

[Drew-Sta]

VOTE: Drew-sta

863 was very important. Its one of many examples of cat pushign back against mav being scum read. If you were town you wouldnt try and dismiss it but try and talk about why cat migth of town read mav. But you choose to ignor it.


So you slot only found mav to be scum after mav had given up. And was just failing to try and make it hard for us to find his partner. And you claim credit for the lynch.


You even push danny using the espresso and titus lynch are bad. You fail to explain what you think dannyi motive was. Why he wouldnt simply let a townie hammer if he was scum. Two other not voting had declared intent. For danny to be scum they both cant be town.

Not forgetting day one your slot pushed day one and come day two avoided voting for him. When it was clear he was dead.

Then you mention the flash lynch. You talk about dannyi but ingor all the other slots. What about danny push on espresso did you think was scum motivated. As all i can see in your arguement is that dannyi pushed town. Forgeting that what town often does. Only scum know for sure who town is

I’m not ignoring it. If iDany is apparently allowed to get town reads wrong, why is Cats not allowed to get a scum read wrong? Your logic is flawed.

I don’t need to find a motive why Dany wants EJ dead - if he’s scum, he wants them dead because they’re town. Are you seriously suggesting scum need motive to lynch people?

And your suggestion that i could of been bussing mav is just absurd. Clear attempt to rewiden the lynch pool.

Did mav push on me look any where near SvS?

You even try to claim he was doomed. When i was the second to start pushing him in day 3. Before then he got little slack

Given mav went from budding you D1 to arguing heatedly with you - yes, it did.

[Drew-Sta]

today feels like trollie and drew are the most likely lynches already.

I have iday as strong town at this stage.

I don't think anyone is reading me as scum at this point, so pleased with that.

/facepalm Why am I scumread by you.

oh man, drew's post 1125 ending with avote for idany is bad.

Why.

becase you go from a post that has you almost voting for trollie, to the next going back andvoting for idany. just...if you almost agree with my scum read and then switch to voting for the person I think is most town, that just looks bad.

You realise there are two scum left, right? I firmly believe it is out of dany, bob and trollie.

If you insist on trollie, fine. VOTE: Change Vote trollie but I firmly believe your read on dany is wrong.

[Drew-Sta]

I’m going to bed. Don’t lynch me. I am town. Engage with what I’ve written. Stop just shouting ‘that’s scummy!’ Actually engage with my posts. Scumhunt.

[TheTrollie]

GET THAT VOTE OFF OF ME DREW OR AT LEAST ONE OF YOU - THAT PUTS ME AT L-1!!!

[TheTrollie]

Gera take your vote off me now - You can still want to lynch me, fine. But Don't leave me at L-1 before hearing anyhting from me on a critical day - that was not a good call.

I think Mala is scum - re-read the mavs/mala-slot interactions and I certainly cannot rule out the possibility that it was bussing. In fact, I can read it as bussing very easily. Mavs was very wishy washy on those interactions - he wanted to be involved in the discourse but he never really committed much. Plus, I hate overthinking this interaction when I have a good read there

VOTE: mala

The third I am struggling with.

Bambi don't forget you promised me we could talk about ur neighbor claim yesterday!

[TheTrollie]

*from yesterday

[TheTrollie]

third scum gotta be gerain or idanny...maybe bob - My gut on mavs from d1 was wrong so I'm willing to re-evaluate bob. The Mavs v. bob interaction interesting from yesterday. i'll take a look at that too.

[TheTrollie]

My reads aren't very helpful but barring a really good explanation from drew as to why he voted me - I totally have to second guess my drew town read as well.

[TheTrollie]

most likely idanny or gerain tho - just re-read end of day vote counts. They are both (i think) on all of them...

[Malakittens]

Honestly trollie you have been tunneling on my spot all game

[TheTrollie]

I was tunneling on your slot before you replaced in - i happened to also catch scum